John Key on BBC World's Hardtalk

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Lukagain Cos ThistleBounce

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May 9, 2011, 6:30:46 PM5/9/11
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Rumours persist that the BeeB's latest Hardtalk guest is our very own
spivmeister.....
Check your listings now.

Mo

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May 9, 2011, 6:36:42 PM5/9/11
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On May 10, 10:30 am, Lukagain Cos ThistleBounce

Key is not capable of talking intelligently for half an hour. This
must be some hoax.

Newsman

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May 10, 2011, 3:18:43 AM5/10/11
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The interview is instructive in more ways than one. Good to have it
archived in toto on the HDD.

New Zealanders will be overjoyed to know the entire BBC World audience
has had an opportunity to discover and assess the calibre and
character of the slither-tongued man who now runs the show here.

As is his habit, the thoroughly researched Sackur expertly conducted
John Key through major New Zealand topics and issues, the responses to
most of which Sackur received with a wholesome skepticism matching to
perfection the style and substance of what came back at him.

As an example of the general tone Key brought to the broadcast, and
for a revealing study of an inept New Zealand prime minister regaling
his worldwide audience by gratuitously disavowing one of his own
country's top scientists, try this excerpt:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9480610.stm

(Note John Key's embarrassed smirk the moment Sackur introduces the
"100% Pure" topic)

Unsurprisingly, while the cattle-class NZ media went ape over John
Key's lame sidekick spot on the insubstantial Letterman a while back,
this time they have been mute when it came to the potential gravitas
of his one big chance: a long-form 25-minute encounter with the
redoubtable Sackur on a universally accessible worldwide network.

Lukagain Cos ThistleBounce

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May 10, 2011, 3:20:19 AM5/10/11
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On Mon, 9 May 2011 15:36:42 -0700 (PDT), Mo <morriss...@yahoo.com>
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Well, hmmm, Stephen Sackur smacked him around a bit. He did manage to
duck a couple of good shots to the head, and really, well, hmmmm,
didn't do to badly. But yeah, his diction remains slovenly.

Pooh

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May 10, 2011, 3:27:55 AM5/10/11
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"Newsman" <sla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4dc8e422...@news.eternal-september.org...

Wasn't the "100% pure" trademark foisted on the world by your glorious
marxist mistress Clark and her carpetbagging buddys?

Pooh


John Cawston

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May 10, 2011, 4:35:34 AM5/10/11
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I saw the section of him defending the "100% pure" bit. Given this is
very much a Labour gambit over the last 25 years he was forced to defend
it, and did it OK whilst introducing the concept of "comparatively"..
something IIRC Helen wasn't prepared to concede. In this he followed
some tourism research that overseas visitors aren't that interested in
100% pure so much as it aligns with what they see and perceive of NZ.

JC

Newsman

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May 10, 2011, 6:10:29 AM5/10/11
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>Wasn't the "100% pure" trademark foisted on the world by Clark?

Quite possibly. It suggests that which is patently untrue, yet NZ
Tourism along with **John Key** as its top smell, no less, continues
to exploit the falsehood for all it is worth.

It's called 'misrepresentation', the acknowledged vice of politicians
of any stripe yuou care to name. Hence John Key is a perfect fit.

WorkHard

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May 10, 2011, 6:20:13 AM5/10/11
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Newsman wrote:

> Unsurprisingly, while the cattle-class NZ media went ape over
> John
> Key's lame sidekick spot on the insubstantial Letterman a while
> back,
> this time they have been mute when it came to the potential
> gravitas
> of his one big chance: a long-form 25-minute encounter with
> the
> redoubtable Sackur on a universally accessible worldwide
> network.

Pretty hopeless alright. Gotta agree there.

The problem is though, that Goff, Norman, Sharples, Dunne,
Harawira would be 100 times worse.

Of course Brash would have been the only party leader presently
able to handle those questions. He has no issues facing up to
facts.

So perhaps you are a closet ACT supporter, Newsless?

Judging what's on offer, you bloody well should be.


WorkHard

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May 10, 2011, 6:49:01 AM5/10/11
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Newsman wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:27:55 +1200, "Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie>
> wrote:


>> Wasn't the "100% pure" trademark foisted on the world by
>> Clark?
>
> Quite possibly.

You know damn well it was. And, as usual, you never said a thing
about it because you would never dare criticize Helen Clark the
Comminist.

> It suggests that which is patently untrue, yet NZ
> Tourism along with **John Key** as its top smell, no less,
> continues
> to exploit the falsehood for all it is worth.
>
> It's called 'misrepresentation', the acknowledged vice of
> politicians
> of any stripe yuou care to name. Hence John Key is a perfect
> fit.

Hence HELEN CLARK who instigated it is the #1 *"misrepresenter"*,
and you supported everything she ever did and said.

What a two-faced hypocrite *you* are.


Rich...@hotmail.com

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May 10, 2011, 6:53:38 AM5/10/11
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:27:55 +1200, "Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote:

Hasn't Key been Minister of Tourism since November 2008? If he didn't
like and accept the slogan, why has he stuck with it?

JohnO

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May 10, 2011, 6:52:34 AM5/10/11
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On May 10, 10:10 pm, slay...@gmail.com (Newsman) wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:27:55 +1200, "Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote:
>
> >"Newsman" <slay...@gmail.com> wrote in message

The key word being 'suggests'. Goodness me - an advertising campaign
that could be interpreted in a way such that it is not true - whatever
next.

Grow up.

> yet NZ
> Tourism along with **John Key** as its top smell, no less, continues
> to exploit the falsehood for all it is worth.

As I said, grow up and do try to get that chip off your shoulder.

>
> It's called 'misrepresentation', the acknowledged vice of politicians
> of any stripe yuou care to name.  Hence John Key is a perfect fit.

Yet it was not Key's campaign. It is an advertising campaign, and your
wittering on about it is absolutely pathetic.

victor

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May 10, 2011, 9:51:37 AM5/10/11
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On 10/05/2011 7:27 p.m., Pooh wrote:

>
> Wasn't the "100% pure" trademark foisted on the world by your glorious
> marxist mistress Clark and her carpetbagging buddys?
>
> Pooh
>
>

M&C Saatchi commissioned by George Hickton
Its a pretty successful campaign.
Keith Warren can't stand anything from NewZealand being a success.
He's a hater.
Never got beyond miking up the NZSO the same every time for 20 years

WorkHard

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May 10, 2011, 6:46:25 PM5/10/11
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Yeah, bludging off the NZ taxpayer.


Newsman

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May 13, 2011, 5:45:52 PM5/13/11
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 03:52:34 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On May 10, 10:10=A0pm, slay...@gmail.com (Newsman) wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:27:55 +1200, "Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote:
>>
>> >"Newsman" <slay...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:4dc8e422...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >> On Tue, 10 May 2011 10:30:46 +1200, Lukagain Cos ThistleBounce
>> >> <BTol...@ThistleBounce.OK> wrote:
>>
>> >>>Rumours persist that the BeeB's latest Hardtalk guest is our very own
>> >>>spivmeister.....
>> >>>Check your listings now.
>>

>> >> The interview is instructive in more ways than one. =A0Good to have it


>> >> archived in toto on the HDD.
>>
>> >> New Zealanders will be overjoyed to know the entire BBC World audience
>> >> has had an opportunity to discover and assess the calibre and
>> >> character of the slither-tongued man who now runs the show here.
>>
>> >> As is his habit, the thoroughly researched Sackur expertly conducted
>> >> John Key through major New Zealand topics and issues, the responses to

>> >> most of which Sackur received with =A0a wholesome skepticism matching =


>to
>> >> perfection the style and substance of what came back at him.
>>
>> >> As an example of the general tone Key brought to the broadcast, and
>> >> for a revealing study of an inept New Zealand prime minister regaling
>> >> his worldwide audience by gratuitously disavowing one of his own
>> >> country's top scientists, try this excerpt:
>>
>> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9480610.stm
>>
>> >> (Note John Key's embarrassed smirk the moment Sackur introduces the
>> >> "100% Pure" topic)
>>
>> >> Unsurprisingly, while the cattle-class NZ media went ape over John
>> >> Key's lame sidekick spot on the insubstantial Letterman a while back,
>> >> this time they have been mute when it came to the potential gravitas

>> >> of his one big chance: =A0a long-form 25-minute encounter with the


>> >> redoubtable Sackur on a universally accessible worldwide network.
>>
>> >Wasn't the "100% pure" trademark foisted on the world by Clark?
>>

>> Quite possibly. =A0It suggests that which is patently untrue,


>
>The key word being 'suggests'.

OK, then, **says**, which is actually the case,

>Goodness me - an advertising campaign
>that could be interpreted in a way such that it is not true - whatever
>next.
>
>Grow up.

Tell it to Stephen Sackur who skewered Key with his "But a100% is
100%", this in response to Key trying still to convince his BBC
audience of the falsehood as he twisted on the gibbet of his own
devising. I assure you, it was an exquisite moment.


>
>> yet NZ
>> Tourism along with **John Key** as its top smell, no less, continues
>> to exploit the falsehood for all it is worth.
>
>As I said, grow up and do try to get that chip off your shoulder.

So it is OK with you that a prime minister of New Zealand who not only
condones the exploitation of a falsehood and then continues to do so
when shown up for his a worldwide TV channel is good for New Zealand.

And you have the vote? Jeeeeesus H Christ!


>
>>
>> It's called 'misrepresentation', the acknowledged vice of politicians

>> of any stripe yuou care to name. =A0Hence John Key is a perfect fit.

Newsman

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May 13, 2011, 5:45:53 PM5/13/11
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 03:52:34 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On May 10, 10:10=A0pm, slay...@gmail.com (Newsman) wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:27:55 +1200, "Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote:
>>
>> >"Newsman" <slay...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:4dc8e422...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >> On Tue, 10 May 2011 10:30:46 +1200, Lukagain Cos ThistleBounce
>> >> <BTol...@ThistleBounce.OK> wrote:
>>
>> >>>Rumours persist that the BeeB's latest Hardtalk guest is our very own
>> >>>spivmeister.....
>> >>>Check your listings now.
>>

>> >> The interview is instructive in more ways than one. =A0Good to have it


>> >> archived in toto on the HDD.
>>
>> >> New Zealanders will be overjoyed to know the entire BBC World audience
>> >> has had an opportunity to discover and assess the calibre and
>> >> character of the slither-tongued man who now runs the show here.
>>
>> >> As is his habit, the thoroughly researched Sackur expertly conducted
>> >> John Key through major New Zealand topics and issues, the responses to

>> >> most of which Sackur received with =A0a wholesome skepticism matching =

>to
>> >> perfection the style and substance of what came back at him.
>>
>> >> As an example of the general tone Key brought to the broadcast, and
>> >> for a revealing study of an inept New Zealand prime minister regaling
>> >> his worldwide audience by gratuitously disavowing one of his own
>> >> country's top scientists, try this excerpt:
>>
>> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9480610.stm
>>
>> >> (Note John Key's embarrassed smirk the moment Sackur introduces the
>> >> "100% Pure" topic)
>>
>> >> Unsurprisingly, while the cattle-class NZ media went ape over John
>> >> Key's lame sidekick spot on the insubstantial Letterman a while back,
>> >> this time they have been mute when it came to the potential gravitas

>> >> of his one big chance: =A0a long-form 25-minute encounter with the


>> >> redoubtable Sackur on a universally accessible worldwide network.
>>
>> >Wasn't the "100% pure" trademark foisted on the world by Clark?
>>

>> Quite possibly. =A0It suggests that which is patently untrue,


>
>The key word being 'suggests'. Goodness me - an advertising campaign
>that could be interpreted in a way such that it is not true - whatever
>next.

In saying 'suggests' I have perhaps been generous since the slogan
actually states "100% Pure" as fact. Sackur took this up with New
Zealand's Minister of Tourism, detailing scenarios and numbers for Key
to speak to. But Key sidestepped and responded by dissing the work of
one of his own country's top scientists. Sackur left it at that,
leaving John Key looking awkward while allowing the audience to arrive
at its own conclusions.


>Grow up.
>
>> yet NZ
>> Tourism along with **John Key** as its top smell, no less, continues
>> to exploit the falsehood for all it is worth.
>
>As I said, grow up and do try to get that chip off your shoulder.
>
>>
>> It's called 'misrepresentation', the acknowledged vice of politicians

>> of any stripe yuou care to name. =A0Hence John Key is a perfect fit.

WorkHard

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May 13, 2011, 6:07:49 PM5/13/11
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Newsman wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2011 03:52:34 -0700 (PDT), JohnO
>> Grow up.
>
> Tell it to Stephen Sackur who skewered Key

Typical marxists, like you. Skewer the wrong person.

CLARK initiated it FFS!


> So it is OK with you that a prime minister of New Zealand who
> not only
> condones the exploitation of a falsehood and then continues to
> do so
> when shown up for his a worldwide TV channel is good for New
> Zealand.
>
> And you have the vote? Jeeeeesus H Christ!

And YOU are always attacking Key and tearing him down. You never
did this to CLARK... ever!

You NEVER offer any alternative.

YOU are just a hater and wrecker... nothing else. A 100%
dishonest one at that.

WorkHard

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May 13, 2011, 6:09:21 PM5/13/11
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Newsman wrote:

> In saying 'suggests' I have perhaps been generous since the
> slogan
> actually states "100% Pure" as fact.

I blame the complulsive liar Helen Clark, so should you.


JohnO

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May 13, 2011, 6:23:43 PM5/13/11
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On May 14, 9:45 am, slay...@gmail.com (Newsman) wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2011 03:52:34 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com>

No, it was the devising of some marketing suit.

>  I assure you, it was an exquisite moment.

I've seen it, and you are talking it up some way beyond what you dream
it was. Back in the real world, this appearance by Key has not
attracted a murmur, other than among those who are compulsively
obsessed.

>
>
>
> >>  yet NZ
> >> Tourism along with **John Key** as its top smell, no less, continues
> >> to exploit the falsehood for all it is worth.
>
> >As I said, grow up and do try to get that chip off your shoulder.
>
> So it is OK with you that a prime minister of New Zealand who not only
> condones the exploitation of a falsehood and then continues to do so
> when shown up for his a worldwide TV channel is good for New Zealand.

As I said, grow up. If making a storm in your little teacup is all you
have, then you are to be pitied.


>
> And you have the vote?   Jeeeeesus H Christ!

Lame, as ever.

Lukagain Cos ThistleBounce

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May 13, 2011, 6:37:05 PM5/13/11
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Vicious snip ...

>>The key word being 'suggests'. Goodness me - an advertising campaign
>>that could be interpreted in a way such that it is not true - whatever
>>next.
>
>In saying 'suggests' I have perhaps been generous since the slogan
>actually states "100% Pure" as fact. Sackur took this up with New
>Zealand's Minister of Tourism, detailing scenarios and numbers for Key
>to speak to. But Key sidestepped and responded by dissing the work of
>one of his own country's top scientists. Sackur left it at that,
>leaving John Key looking awkward while allowing the audience to arrive
>at its own conclusions.

There's a parallel thread running on:
http://brianedwardsmedia.co.nz/2011/05/john-key-on-hardtalk/

and I note interview in full is at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfUozKMgA-Y
and then at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0canC4MM9I

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