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BrentC

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Jul 20, 2010, 5:27:22 PM7/20/10
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Pukekohe's - can you shoot them all year

They are digging up the wife's garden

BrentC

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Jul 20, 2010, 5:32:21 PM7/20/10
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:27:22 +1200, BrentC <b@b.b> wrote:

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>
>
>Pukekohe's - can you shoot them all year
>
>They are digging up the wife's garden
>
>


PUKEKO - the Tasmanian Swamp Hen - rather than the bastien of
Whiteness south of Auckland


misanthropic_curmudgeon

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Jul 20, 2010, 6:52:27 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 21, 9:32 am, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:27:22 +1200, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:
>
> >Pukekohe's - can you shoot them all year
>
> >They are digging up the wife's garden
>
> PUKEKO - the Tasmanian Swamp Hen - rather than
> the bastien of Whiteness south of Auckland

Pooks are on the game bird register, which means a licenced gamebird
hunter (eg me) can hunt them with a shotgun during the season, up to a
daily limit. eg, Auckland Waikato has a season on pooks from
01May2010 to 29Aug2010, with a daily bag limit of 10.
http://www.fishandgame.org.nz/Site/Regions/Auckland/huntingRegulations.aspx

Find out where you are, and what the limits are, on http://www.fishandgame.org.nz.

The big bitch with pooks is that they have adpated a little too well
to humans, meaning that they'll be a nuisince in a place where you
cant legally discharge a firearm. I was once asked by an old collegue
to do just what you described, and rocked up to their place - which
was suburban. Not much I could do there!

If you need a friendly licenced game-bird-hunter *ahem* I know *ahem*
of one *ahem* who'll happily do a legal shoot.

Peter K

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Jul 20, 2010, 7:34:10 PM7/20/10
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"misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com>
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If you're allowed to shoot birds in your garden, are you also allowed to
shoot hedgehogs, dogs, and cats?

Patrick FitzGerald

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:02:40 PM7/20/10
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:52:27 -0700 (PDT), misanthropic_curmudgeon
<misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com> wrote:


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> which means a licenced gamebird
>hunter (eg me) can hunt them with a shotgun during the season

Translation

which means a licenced gamebird destroyer can kil them with a shotgun
during the season


Patrick

Roger Dewhurst

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:15:29 PM7/20/10
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I understand that if Pukekos are pest they can be shot by anyone in or
out of season. The same applies to Paradise ducks and Canada geese.
Pukekos make a nice strong soup!

R

Matty F

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:20:51 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 21, 9:32 am, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:

> PUKEKO - the Tasmanian Swamp Hen - rather than the bastien of
> Whiteness south of Auckland

Pukekohe a bastion of whiteness? I never knew that. It's part of the
dreaded South Auckland isn't it?

liberty

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:31:08 PM7/20/10
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>
> If you need a friendly licenced game-bird-hunter *ahem* I know *ahem*
> of one *ahem* who'll happily do a legal shoot.

As sergeant Jones would say
“They don’t like it up them” Sir

John

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:40:42 PM7/20/10
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Corporal Jones.

liberty

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:42:57 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 21, 12:40 pm, John <inva...@invalid.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:31:08 -0700 (PDT), liberty wrote:
>
> >> If you need a friendly licenced game-bird-hunter *ahem* I know *ahem*
> >> of one *ahem* who'll happily do a legal shoot.
>
> >  As sergeant Jones would say
> > ´They donÿt like it up them¡ Sir
>
> Corporal Jones.

opps

bugalugs

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:53:46 PM7/20/10
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A good air-rifle will knock them off quietly.

--
The problem with modern and new stuff is that we don't know how good
it's going to be until it's old......and it's still going.

BrentC

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Jul 20, 2010, 9:42:19 PM7/20/10
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:52:27 -0700 (PDT), misanthropic_curmudgeon
<misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com> wrote:


Bugger - was hoping to shoot them with my slug gun :)

The little buggers only turn up first thing in the morning from an
adjoining 25 acres (absentee Taiwanese owner) onto our 2 acres

Hardly worth an early morning cruise to Clevedon for 6 or so Pukeko's



BrentC

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Jul 20, 2010, 9:46:20 PM7/20/10
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No

it is south of south Auckland

it is white with white maori's and a few chinese - almost no
Polynesians - not sure if Indians have moved in yet?

Geopelia

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Jul 20, 2010, 10:03:35 PM7/20/10
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Is it possible to trap and rehome them?

We had one in the garden after a gale. I hoped he would stay, but he left.
The tuis were here yesterday, they know our kowhai is about to bloom.


Cosmik de Bris

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Jul 20, 2010, 10:13:32 PM7/20/10
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Oops?

Peter K

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Jul 20, 2010, 10:39:03 PM7/20/10
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"Geopelia" <phil...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Is it possible to trap and rehome them?
>
> We had one in the garden after a gale. I hoped he would stay, but he left.
> The tuis were here yesterday, they know our kowhai is about to bloom.

LOL. Look, I know you didn't quote the person you "replied" to, but in my

newsreader it appears you replied to BrentC, who wrote:

"it is white with white maori's and a few chinese - almost no
Polynesians - not sure if Indians have moved in yet?"

Kind of puts your answer in a different light :-)

misanthropic_curmudgeon

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Jul 20, 2010, 10:47:32 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 21, 1:42 pm, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:52:27 -0700 (PDT), misanthropic_curmudgeon
> <misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com> wrote:
[snip]

> >Pooks are on the game bird register, which means a licenced gamebird
> >hunter (eg me) can hunt them with a shotgun during the season, up to a
> >daily limit.  eg, Auckland Waikato has a season on pooks from
> >01May2010 to 29Aug2010, with a daily bag limit of 10.
> >http://www.fishandgame.org.nz/Site/Regions/Auckland/huntingRegulation...
>
> >Find out where you are, and what the limits are, onhttp://www.fishandgame.org.nz.

>
> >The big bitch with pooks is that they have adpated a little too well
> >to humans, meaning that they'll be a nuisince in a place where you
> >cant legally discharge a firearm.  I was once asked by an old collegue
> >to do just what you described, and rocked up to their place - which
> >was suburban.  Not much I could do there!
>
> >If you need a friendly licenced game-bird-hunter *ahem* I know *ahem*
> >of one *ahem* who'll happily do a legal shoot.
>
> Bugger - was hoping to shoot them with my slug gun :)

Not legally: "Game bird hunting can only be undertaken with a shotgun
of a calibre 10 gauge or less" and "It is an offence to hunt or kill
game unless the person holds a current game licence."
http://www.fishandgame.org.nz/includes/download.aspx?ID=109305

> The little buggers only turn up first thing in the
> morning from an adjoining 25 acres (absentee
> Taiwanese owner) onto our 2 acres Hardly
> worth an early morning cruise to Clevedon for
> 6 or so Pukeko's

Are they out at other times? I'm looking at passing through that way
on the weekend of either the 8th or th15th August (which is still in
season), probably on Friday night and Sunday afternoon/evening to give
some central north island deer a scare. Doing a drive-by (even if
just to 'check it out') could be possible.
Do you have consent from any ajoining neighbours who might be
"disturbed" by a shotgun?

Do you have a real email address?


misanthropic_curmudgeon

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Jul 20, 2010, 10:52:28 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 21, 12:15 pm, Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 9:32 am, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:27:22 +1200, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:
>
> >>> Pukekohe's - can you shoot them all year
> >>> They are digging up the wife's garden
> >> PUKEKO - the Tasmanian Swamp Hen - rather than
> >> the bastien of Whiteness south of Auckland
>
> > Pooks are on the game bird register, which means a licenced gamebird
> > hunter (eg me) can hunt them with a shotgun during the season, up to a
> > daily limit.  eg, Auckland Waikato has a season on pooks from
> > 01May2010 to 29Aug2010, with a daily bag limit of 10.
> >http://www.fishandgame.org.nz/Site/Regions/Auckland/huntingRegulation...
>
> > Find out where you are, and what the limits are, onhttp://www.fishandgame.org.nz.

>
> > The big bitch with pooks is that they have adpated a little too well
> > to humans, meaning that they'll be a nuisince in a place where you
> > cant legally discharge a firearm.  I was once asked by an old collegue
> > to do just what you described, and rocked up to their place - which
> > was suburban.  Not much I could do there!
>
> > If you need a friendly licenced game-bird-hunter *ahem* I know *ahem*
> > of one *ahem* who'll happily do a legal shoot.
>
> I understand that if Pukekos are pest they can be shot by
> anyone in or out of season.  The same applies to Paradise
> ducks and Canada geese.

One can seek a special out-of-season permit from FishandGame, but from
experince:
- they'd rather cull as a last resort (prefering to to
move them on, or 'harvest' nests of eggs, or ...
- they'd rather do it themselves
- a few pooks in the garden is not considered
enough of an issue.

I've never heard of them giving a 'permit' to someone who does not
hold a gamebird licence.

It is worth noting that some farmers are seeking to have Canadian
geese removed from the register, so they can (legally) nail the mobs
of them that turn up all year round.

Roger Dewhurst

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Jul 20, 2010, 11:42:03 PM7/20/10
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Knocking them off with an air rifle on a two acre block is hardly likely
to disturb anyone not observing with a pair of binoculars. Just do not
leave the feathers blowing around.

To change the subject. A hypothetical case. This is in an urban area.
You hear screams and go outside to see a pit bull type dog trying to
get at a child of about twelve to has managed to climb on top of one of
those green transformers you see along the street. The dog is almost
getting up on top after the child. The child's leg is streaming blood.
You quickly get your 12 bore, out of the cupboard in which it is locked,
load it with a couple of BB cartridges and shoot the dog. The police
appear in response to a telephone call from another neighbour. The
owner of the dog, also a neighbour is screaming blue murder.

What is the probable outcome? What should the outcome be?

R

>
> I've never heard of them giving a 'permit' to someone who does not
> hold a gamebird licence.

I think that you will find a clause in the act which permits the
shooting of the birds IF they are doing damage.

R

Peter K

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Jul 21, 2010, 12:00:15 AM7/21/10
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"Roger Dewhurst" <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
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The dog owner gets shot too?

Geopelia

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Jul 21, 2010, 1:08:00 AM7/21/10
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"Peter K" <pe...@parcelvej.dk> wrote in message
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Oh dear, no Indians in our garden, but we have lovely Korean neighbours all
around us.


BrentC

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Jul 21, 2010, 1:16:55 AM7/21/10
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It is like the 4th of July here at the beginning of duck season :)

None of my neighbours has ever asked my consent

brentc.n...@gmail.com


A _L_ P

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Jul 21, 2010, 3:52:53 AM7/21/10
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Only if they're on the wing.

A L P

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misanthropic_curmudgeon

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Jul 21, 2010, 4:56:00 PM7/21/10
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On Jul 21, 7:52 pm, A _L_ P <hay.hell....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter K wrote:
> > "misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com>

> > wrote in message
> >news:5b166ba0-4691-4216...@a4g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jul 21, 9:32 am, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:27:22 +1200, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:
>
> >>> >Pukekohe's - can you shoot them all year
>
> >>> >They are digging up the wife's garden
>
> >>> PUKEKO - the Tasmanian Swamp Hen - rather than
> >>> the bastien of Whiteness south of Auckland
>
> >> Pooks are on the game bird register, which means a licenced gamebird
> >> hunter (eg me) can hunt them with a shotgun during the season, up to a
> >> daily limit.  eg, Auckland Waikato has a season on pooks from
> >> 01May2010 to 29Aug2010, with a daily bag limit of 10.
> >>http://www.fishandgame.org.nz/Site/Regions/Auckland/huntingRegulation...

>
> >> Find out where you are, and what the limits are, on
> >>http://www.fishandgame.org.nz.
>
> >> The big bitch with pooks is that they have adpated a little too well
> >> to humans, meaning that they'll be a nuisince in a place where you
> >> cant legally discharge a firearm.  I was once asked by an old collegue
> >> to do just what you described, and rocked up to their place - which
> >> was suburban.  Not much I could do there!
>
> >> If you need a friendly licenced game-bird-hunter *ahem* I know *ahem*
> >> of one *ahem* who'll happily do a legal shoot.
>
> > If you're allowed to shoot birds in your garden, are you also allowed to
> > shoot hedgehogs, dogs, and cats?
>
> Only if they're on the wing.

The cat was.

misanthropic_curmudgeon

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Jul 21, 2010, 5:21:05 PM7/21/10
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On Jul 21, 5:16 pm, BrentC <b@b.b> wrote:
[snip]

> It is like the 4th of July  here at the beginning of duck season :)

4th July on the first Saturday of May!

> None of my neighbours has ever asked my consent

One of the things in NZ firearms laws discharging a firearm is about
discharging a firearm that would "annoy, or frighten any person"
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1983/0044/latest/DLM72991.html


> brentc.nz.gen...@gmail.com

Doing/done


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mark...@slingshot.co.nz

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Sep 26, 2013, 8:00:28 AM9/26/13
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I was very fond of pukes until I found out a gang of them slaughtered 4 signets who's parents were powerless to stop the attack. I thought two fully grown swans would have been able to see off a gang of pukes..obviously not. We used to watch said swans from our balcony, what a shame. I didn't realise how nasty they are. Yes if they are being a pest shoot them all year round.

Me

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On 27/09/2013 12:00 a.m., mark...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
> I was very fond of pukes until I found out a gang of them slaughtered 4 signets who's parents were powerless to stop the attack. I thought two fully grown swans would have been able to see off a gang of pukes..obviously not. We used to watch said swans from our balcony, what a shame. I didn't realise how nasty they are. Yes if they are being a pest shoot them all year round.
>
<sigh>

The GCSB will be disappointed when they decipher this thread.

Liberty

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Sep 26, 2013, 5:42:04 PM9/26/13
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Shoot and freeze them. Put a sign at the gate
Free food for the poor.

misanthropic_curmudgeon

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Sep 27, 2013, 1:17:57 AM9/27/13
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As I said in my response to the original post:

"Pooks are on the game bird register, which means a licenced gamebird hunter (eg me) can hunt them with a shotgun during the season, up to a daily limit. eg, Auckland Waikato has a season on pooks from 01May2010 to 29Aug2010, with a daily bag limit of 10.
http://www.fishandgame.org.nz/Site/Regions/Auckland/huntingRegulations.aspx

Find out where you are, and what the limits are, on http://www.fishandgame.org.nz.

The big bitch with pooks is that they have adpated a little too well to humans, meaning that they'll be a nuisince in a place where you cant legally discharge a firearm. I was once asked by an old collegue to do just what you described, and rocked up to their place - which was suburban. Not much I could do there!

If you need a friendly licenced game-bird-hunter *ahem* I know *ahem* of one *ahem* who'll happily do a legal shoot."

Having said that, you can get a special concession for a real problem. Pooks are very territorial birds, and will attack anything new. They will rip up plantings and seedlings in reforestation projects because they are 'new' and 'foreign' to them. Indeed, I was involved in a officially sanctioned pook-cull awhile ago where we shot 300-odd birds over a couple of days (and I ate very well: they're delicious, no matter what the myths say!)

Roger Dewhurst

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On Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:32:21 AM UTC+12, BrentC wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:27:22 +1200, BrentC <b@b.b> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >Pukekohe's - can you shoot them all year
> >
> >They are digging up the wife's garden
> >
> >
>
>
> PUKEKO - the Tasmanian Swamp Hen - rather than the bastien of
> Whiteness south of Auckland

I think that Pukekos are one of the species that can be treated as pests under certain circumstances. I think, but I will not guarantee, that you can shoot them lawfully if they are digging up your garden. Shooting in a built up area is another matter entirely. Talk to DoC.

~misfit~

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Oct 10, 2013, 8:38:43 PM10/10/13
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As a resident of Pukekohe I am offended by the illiteracy of this poster.

But hey, at least the thread's not about politics!
--
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
[Sent from my OrbitalT ocular implant interface.]


Katipo

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Oct 15, 2013, 6:38:14 PM10/15/13
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> As a resident of Pukekohe I am offended by the illiteracy of this poster.

All the same, I'd keep my head down if I were you. Lol!!


David

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Oct 16, 2013, 12:10:54 AM10/16/13
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A nature study inspector was visiting school in the Far North.

He sat on a desk and cast his hand nonchalantly towards the neighbouring bush. Look, I know you people go out and kill and eat the odd wood pigeon.
But sometime I have always wondered- what do they actually taste like?

One smart young kid at the back of the class stuck up his hand.

'Now Hemi, what does it taste like?'

"Just the same as kiwi sir."

dar...@awhitu.school.nz

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Sep 19, 2016, 7:20:31 PM9/19/16
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On Wednesday, July 21, 2010 at 9:27:22 AM UTC+12, BrentC wrote:
> Pukekohe's - can you shoot them all year
>
> They are digging up the wife's garden

no you cant shoot them

littlefi...@gmail.com

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On Wednesday, July 21, 2010 at 12:20:51 PM UTC+12, Matty F wrote:
> On Jul 21, 9:32 am, BrentC <b...@b.b> wrote:
>
> > PUKEKO - the Tasmanian Swamp Hen - rather than the bastien of
> > Whiteness south of Auckland
>
> Pukekohe a bastion of whiteness? I never knew that. It's part of the
> dreaded South Auckland isn't it?

Why is south auckland "dreaded"
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