146 Politicians...

Sailor Sam

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Nov 19, 2009, 5:36:13 PM11/19/09

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3082442/Auckland-Supercity-structure-unveiled

JohnO

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Nov 19, 2009, 5:54:03 PM11/19/09

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On Nov 20, 11:36 am, Sailor Sam <hiho...@merry.oh> wrote:
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3082442/Auckland-Supercity-s...

Sounds like a lot, doesn't it? How many pollies are there under the
existing system over the same area?

Sailor Sam

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:00:08 PM11/19/09

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I think the interesting comparison was, there are only 120 politicians
for the New Zealand parliament, and look how people complain.

JohnO

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:32:56 PM11/19/09

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It is an interesting comparison, but not the most important one.

Sailor Sam

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:35:07 PM11/19/09

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JohnO wrote:
> On Nov 20, 12:00 pm, Sailor Sam <hiho...@merry.oh> wrote:
>> JohnO wrote:
>>> On Nov 20, 11:36 am, Sailor Sam <hiho...@merry.oh> wrote:
>>>> http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3082442/Auckland-Supercity-s...
>>> Sounds like a lot, doesn't it? How many pollies are there under the
>>> existing system over the same area?
>> I think the interesting comparison was, there are only 120 politicians
>> for the New Zealand parliament, and look how people complain.
>
> It is an interesting comparison, but not the most important one.

That's an opinion.

Rich...@hotmail.com

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:00:08 PM11/19/09

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:35:07 +1300, Sailor Sam <hih...@merry.oh>
wrote:

An an interesting opinion too, but not the most important one.

misanthropic_curmudgeon

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:42:13 PM11/19/09

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Well, that 146 figure includes all the board representives and
suchlike.

At present, Auckland City has, by my count, 19 councillors[1], and
Avondale board has five additional board members[2], as does Eastern
Bays[3], EdenAlbert[4], Great Barrier[5], Maungakiekie[7], Mt Roskill
[8], Tamaki[9], Waiheke[10] and Western Bays[11]
Hobson has six[6]

So that is 70-odd just for Auckland City. God knows how many the
Westies have, North Shore, Rodney, the ghetto, or out Pukekekohe way

It is probably worth recalling that when this idea was mooted, the
fothing lefties moaned that it would be a reduction in
representation. Now they are implying 146 is too high compared to 120
MPs. But they are lefties: they'd moan about anything that was not
draped in a red flag.

JohnO

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:31:38 AM11/20/09

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On Nov 20, 4:42 pm, misanthropic_curmudgeon

<misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 11:54 am, JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 20, 11:36 am, Sailor Sam <hiho...@merry.oh> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3082442/Auckland-Supercity-s...
>
> > Sounds like a lot, doesn't it? How many pollies are there under the
> > existing system over the same area?
>
> Well, that 146 figure includes all the board representives and
> suchlike.
>
> At present, Auckland City has, by my count, 19 councillors[1], and
> Avondale board has five additional board members[2], as does Eastern
> Bays[3], EdenAlbert[4], Great Barrier[5], Maungakiekie[7], Mt Roskill
> [8], Tamaki[9], Waiheke[10] and Western Bays[11]
> Hobson has six[6]
>
> So that is 70-odd just for Auckland City. God knows how many the
> Westies have, North Shore, Rodney, the ghetto, or out Pukekekohe way
>
> It is probably worth recalling that when this idea was mooted, the
> fothing lefties moaned that it would be a reduction in
> representation. Now they are implying 146 is too high compared to 120
> MPs. But they are lefties: they'd moan about anything that was not
> draped in a red flag.
>

Right-o, so we can expect a reduction in the pollie count then.
Excellent.

I wonder why the lefties in this thread are wriggling around that
point like a worm on a hook?

misanthropic_curmudgeon

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:09:44 PM11/22/09

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Well, they went stunningly quiet over the weekend!

John Cawston

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:43:56 PM11/22/09

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The point is surely that 146 pollies is a *reduction* of over 100
from what exists now in Auckland.

JC

Sailor Sam

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:52:30 PM11/22/09

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I'll remember this part of the thread if *ever* these lads complain that
120 politicians in parliament is too many.

Thanks for proving my point guys.

JohnO

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:11:05 PM11/22/09

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Why would you connect the two? No one here has said that the number
proposed for the super city is too little, too many or just right -
only that it is an improvement (less) than the current number.

Your own conclusions are as faulty as ever.

Sailor Sam

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:07:27 AM11/23/09

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First paragraph of the article linked to in the OP

"Auckland will be ruled by 146 politicians - more than there currently
are in Parliament - under the new Supercity structure, it was revealed
today. "

JohnO

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:18:55 AM11/23/09

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Yes. And apparently 100 less than the current system. Excellent. Feel
free to bring up this news often.

Sailor Sam

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:22:14 AM11/23/09

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Whenever you complain about the numbers in Parliament I will, as I said.

JohnO

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:18:37 AM11/23/09

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You seem to think I or someone else thinks this 146 number you keep
bringing up is significant in itself? Or that I or someone else think
it's acceptable? If so, then as I said before you are mistaken. All I
am saying is that 146 is an improvement on 246. But feel free to bleat
away if it makes you feel better in your ignorance.

WorkHard

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:24:45 AM11/23/09

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His bleating ignores the reality... 100 *FEWER* pooticians
running Auckland.

Sailor Sam

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:05:01 PM11/23/09

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I wonder if you ever read what's said Johno, I really do.

JohnO

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:36:18 PM11/23/09

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I'm sure you wonder about most things as they confront you in what
must be a very challenging life.

Sailor Sam

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:44:58 PM11/23/09

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We can't all lead simple lives like you Johno.

WorkHard

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:47:57 PM11/23/09

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Yes... he seems to always over-complicate everything. But he
really does that to just be argumentative. He has nothing
productive to do with his life and time, that's obvious.

JohnO

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:09:20 PM11/23/09

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Some of us have that knack of making complex things things simple.
Sadly, to others even the simple seems difficult.

Sailor Sam

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:19:34 PM11/23/09

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Yes, that is what I am paid for.

> Sadly, to others even the simple seems difficult.

I have noticed that you suffer from that problem, on more than one
occasion. I'm pleased to see you finally admit it.

JohnO

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:25:55 PM11/23/09

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Sucks to be your clients - if there are any still in business.

Sailor Sam

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:08:39 PM11/23/09

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Small mind you possess.

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JohnO

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:53:27 PM11/26/09

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On Nov 26, 8:22 pm, Msg. Scooter <monsignor.scoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On , , Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:25:19 +1300, Re: 146 Politicians..., Msg. Scooter
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> <monsignor.scoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On , , Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:44:58 +1300, Re: 146 Politicians..., Sailor Sam

> >There is only so much simple out there and you seem to have cornered the marlet
> >in it.
>
> That shoiuld be John, rather than you.
>

Can't even get the spelling right in either post - an error on top of
an error. And you presume to point out other posters' errors?

LOL. What a moron.

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JohnO

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Nov 27, 2009, 1:48:09 PM11/27/09

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On Nov 27, 10:51 pm, Msg. Scooter <monsignor.scoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On , , Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:53:27 -0800 (PST), Re: 146 Politicians..., JohnO

> Do I really?

Yes.

> As usual you lack the understanding to participate in that argument.
>
> --
> "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
> to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
> Anatole France.

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