Where to buy castor oil and nitromethane?
Darren
Where in New Zealand can i get hold of castor oil and nitromethane?
Thanks
Bruce Simpson
>Hi,
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>Where in New Zealand can i get hold of castor oil and nitromethane?
Castrol used to sell Castor oil and I think one of the oil companies
such as Shell or Mobil should be able to help with the nitromethane.
Make sure your bank account is well topped up first though -- it's not
cheap
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Roger Dewhurst
"Darren" <ne...@dpt.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Hi,
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> Where in New Zealand can i get hold of castor oil and nitromethane?
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> Thanks
Castor oil = Castrol R
Are you sure that you want nitromethane? I thought that nitrobenzene was
the additive.
R
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Roger Dewhurst
"Roger Dewhurst" <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
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On second thoughts you can always try growing Ricinus sp. and extracting the
oil. Just remember that you are dealing with something very very poisonous.
R
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Bruce Simpson
<dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>On second thoughts you can always try growing Ricinus sp. and extracting the
>oil. Just remember that you are dealing with something very very poisonous.
Terror-alert! Terror-alert! :-)
Dersu
the
> oil. Just remember that you are dealing with something very very
poisonous.
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> R
And likely to get you a visit from sundry black clad thugs screaming abuse
and raving about anti terrorism pretty damn quick!
D.
Sonn
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knows about this stuff. You're all on the bad books now!
S
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Bruce Simpson
wrote:
You haven't been reading my postings have you? NZ doesn't have "men
in black", we have "men in cardies" :-)
xlo
Don't worry too much about castor oil though, safe enough for a derivative
of castor oil to be used in every block of chocolate you eat - Emulsifier
476 aka "polyglycerol polyricinoleate". Do they just put "emulsifier 476"
because it is easier to spell I wonder?
Roger Dewhurst
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It is the water soluble components you have to worry about. Ricin for
example.
R
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Barry Lennox
No, it's nitromethane. Nitrobenzene is nasty and toxic and a
carcinogen. Ref: Sax and Lewis.
Where are you? if in Auck, hop into the car and spend several hours
driving to Airsail in Penrose. They can help and their prices are not
too bad.
Castor Oil is hard to get from Castrol, they have changed their
reselling structure and MOQs so much that it's hardly worth hassling
with them.
Try Morris Lubricants, I have used both their MLR40 and MLR50,
described as "modern versions of castor based engine oils" They are
based in Rangiora, but call them on 0800 701010 for your nearest
distributor. It's very reasonable, about $27 for a 5 litre can.
Assuming you don't want the Nitro to make a liquid explosive, it
sounds like you need it for model A/C engines?? I did a few tests a
while back with Morris MLR40 on an instrumented OS40 (HP, RPM and CHT)
It performed identically to pure castor.
For those that reckon you can extract Ricin from castor oil, "Bitter
Harvest" by Ann Rule is a good read. It's a true account of how a
Doctor in Kansas attempted to poison her hubby with Ricin, and almost
succeded.
Bruce Hamilton
>Where in New Zealand can i get hold of castor oil and nitromethane?
Castor oil is probably best obtained via some small engine hobby group.
You should contact Castrol to check what formulations they offer in NZ.
MSSR as miscible with alcohols, but Castrol Formula R is a synthetic product.
http://www.castrol.co.nz/eng/pro_comp.shtml
Nitromethane would be best obtained via a drag racing or powerboat club,
as they may arrange lower prices than buying in small containers.
Remember that nitromethane has some nasty properties and is often sold
as a premixture with methanol - eg Wellington Model aeroplane club.
http://www.wmac.org.nz/CC256ACD0031C2F2/docid/RCSG-5BU2JR
Bruce Hamilton
Brian Harmer
Um ... as the newsletter editor of the aforementioned club, I can tell
you we don't sell it. That page was a link to our local hobby shop (J
& N Gifts, in Upper Hutt).
Bruce Hamilton
><B.Ham...@irl.cri.nz> wrote:
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>>Nitromethane would be best obtained via a drag racing or powerboat club,
>>as they may arrange lower prices than buying in small containers.
>>
>>Remember that nitromethane has some nasty properties and is often sold
>>as a premixture with methanol - eg Wellington Model aeroplane club.
>>http://www.wmac.org.nz/CC256ACD0031C2F2/docid/RCSG-5BU2JR
>
>Um ... as the newsletter editor of the aforementioned club, I can tell
>you we don't sell it. That page was a link to our local hobby shop (J
>& N Gifts, in Upper Hutt).
Ah well, I thought "mutual benefit" might have included negotiated lower prices
for members. Sorry if I gave the impression the club was directly selling the
mixture.
If the original poster wants pure nitromethane for dragster or powerboat
racing, they will have to hunt out somebody prepared to import 200 litre drums
to get a reasonable price, and joining a club that has members using it may be
the best option.
The chemical suppliers we use do not provide nitromethane to unknown
individuals.
Bruce Hamilton
Barry Lennox
<B.Ham...@irl.cri.nz> wrote:
>The chemical suppliers we use do not provide nitromethane to unknown
>individuals.
Why not? Seems the "P" brigade can anything they want in any
quantity.
Brian Harmer
Club members often get together to buy a large drum which is then
dispensed to those who committed to it. Many of us, however, now
prefer electric power ... it is not only more socially acceptable from
a noise pollution point of view, but requires no messy fuel proofing
(nitro plays havoc with paint!).
Matthew Poole
at least slows them down a little.
--
Matthew Poole Auckland, New Zealand
"Veni, vidi, velcro...
I came, I saw, I stuck around"
My real e-mail is mattATp00leDOTnet
Bruce Simpson
<B.Ham...@irl.cri.nz> wrote:
>If the original poster wants pure nitromethane for dragster or powerboat
>racing, they will have to hunt out somebody prepared to import 200 litre drums
>to get a reasonable price, and joining a club that has members using it may be
>the best option.
>
>The chemical suppliers we use do not provide nitromethane to unknown
>individuals.
I did have nearly 4 litres of it until a few months ago. When used in
model aircraft engines, a little can go a long way.
Barry Lennox
<brian....@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
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>Club members often get together to buy a large drum which is then
>dispensed to those who committed to it. Many of us, however, now
>prefer electric power ... it is not only more socially acceptable from
>a noise pollution point of view, but requires no messy fuel proofing
>(nitro plays havoc with paint!).
There's a bit of mythology or wishful thinking in both cases.
If you read all the AMA noise studies the NZMAA holds somewhere (and I
still have on a 5" floppy-- with no 5" drive these days!) you will
know that it's very easy to muffle an IC engine to the point where
prop noise is the only significant source, so electric and IC noise is
then essentially the same. You may also recall I used to fly an
OS40FS powered "Simplex" so muffled, at the WMAC field and it sounded
just like an electric.
Modest amounts of Nitro don't hurt modern paints.
Darren
"Bruce Hamilton" <B.Ham...@irl.cri.nz> wrote in message
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Im useing it for R/C model engines....
Bruce Hamilton
>In article <sstdtv0bisietdvj3...@4ax.com>, Barry Lennox <pbarryp...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:23:41 +1300, Bruce Hamilton
>><B.Ham...@irl.cri.nz> wrote:
>>>The chemical suppliers we use do not provide nitromethane to unknown
>>>individuals.
>>Why not? Seems the "P" brigade can anything they want in any
>>quantity.
>The '"P" brigade" don't buy their chemicals. Forcing them to steal them
>at least slows them down a little.
Tell me about it, besides their chemicals are much more common that
nitromethane, and they can steal them from several industrial and commercial
sources, if they don't actually purchase them from suppliers ( as per that
teacher in Hawkes Bay.
Our concrete blockhouse chemical store was broken into twice last year, now we
have 24 hour video survellience on it, reinforced door with internal deadlock (
original was stainless steel clad and 75mm thick - for explosion, not to deter
thieves, as is common, the roof is designed to lift rather than generate a
horizontal blast ), and a huge crowbar-proof latch and heavy stainless steel
lock. AFAIK, we haven't had an attempted breakin since the improved security.
Our guards have also chased two would-be thieves from the general area, so it's
now lit up like the stadium at night. According to our security guy, one of
the other CRIs store was broken into, and the guard captured the offender, duly
prosecuted, off to jail. No long after, another thief was captured, turned out
he was the son of the original thief. Not sure if it's true, but sounds
plausible.
Several laboratories and chemical users no longer advertise their actual
location and services publically because the cost of additional security.
About a decade ago an American visitor couldn't understand why our analytical
balances weren't securely bolted down, as in their labs.
I suspect NZ drug dealers are more innovative, and just buy cheap and small
electronic jeweller's scales to weigh out their product, and they don't need
such accuracy for weighing the ingredients of homebake.
Bruce Hamilton