Pulling Out Across A Median Strip
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
treat it as a “lane” for merging into traffic?
JohnO
central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> Where do people get the idea they can turn right onto a median strip and
> treat it as a “lane” for merging into traffic?
Because if they don't they can be stuck waiting all day for the road
to be clear in both directions.
Why wouldn't someone use this tactic?
WorkHard
If they don't, they could also be holding up people behind them.
And why have so much wasted space on a road (median strip) if you can't use
the bloody thing? Why do they always have to herd people like sheep into
narrow lanes with no other options?
Richard
> Where do people get the idea they can turn right onto a median strip and
> treat it as a “lane” for merging into traffic?
Because thats what it is there for?
WD
central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> treat it as a “lane” for merging into traffic?
The NZ Road Code?
http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/turning.html
Turning on or off a road with a flush median
A flush median is a strip in the centre of the road that is marked
with white diagonal lines within parallel lines. It provides a place
for vehicles that are turning right, or vehicles that have turned
right onto the road from a side road or driveway.
You can only drive onto the flush median to:
* wait to move into a gap in the traffic flow after you have
turned right (car A in the diagram below)
* slow down and wait before turning right (car B in the diagram
below).
Weihana.
Gordon
> Where do people get the idea they can turn right onto a median strip and
Its called multi tasking.
Yes, it does take some getting used to. Vehicle approaching from the right
and we are going to crash!
A bit like two vehicles turning into a one way street at the same time.
It does work well though. The traffic can flow and the road operates just a
little more efficiently
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<78f29b48-9e66-464c...@o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, WD
wrote:
> You can only drive onto the flush median to:
>
> * wait to move into a gap in the traffic flow after you have
> turned right (car A in the diagram below)
With the last person who pulled out in front me, the “gap” was only big
enough for me to slow down to avoid hitting them.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> You can only drive onto the flush median to:
>
> * wait to move into a gap in the traffic flow after you have
> turned right (car A in the diagram below)
But can they assume right of way, as somebody would moving from an ordinary
right-hand lane to the left?
Simon
central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> treat it as a “lane” for merging into traffic?
As long as they are not moving along the median strip, then they have
every right to do so.
http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/turning.html
Simon
> The NZ Road Code?
Whoops! You posted the link before me. Never mind!
Anyway, I see quite a few drivers panic and drive off the road to the
left, when people turn right and pull into the flush median.
Simon
central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> But can they assume right of way, as somebody would moving from an ordinary
> right-hand lane to the left?
No.
Simon
central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> In message
> <78f29b48-9e66-464c-b714-b246c2e18...@o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, WD
Did you mean in the situation where you are travelling in the left-
land of a multi-lane road and the other person is moving from the
right-hand lane to the left-hand lane?
Peter K
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> On May 6, 4:24 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
> central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>> Where do people get the idea they can turn right onto a median strip and
>
> The NZ Road Code?
>
> http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/turning.html
>
> Turning on or off a road with a flush median
>
> A flush median is a strip in the centre of the road that is marked
> with white diagonal lines within parallel lines. It provides a place
> for vehicles that are turning right, or vehicles that have turned
> right onto the road from a side road or driveway.
>
> You can only drive onto the flush median to:
>
> * wait to move into a gap in the traffic flow after you have
> turned right (car A in the diagram below)
> * slow down and wait before turning right (car B in the diagram
> below).
I'm actually surprised there aren't heaps of accidents with these things.
You can easily get cars travelling towards each other in this "lane" (median
strip).
Patrick FitzGerald
>http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/turning.html
>
> * wait to move into a gap in the traffic flow after you have
>turned right (car A in the diagram below)
> * slow down and wait before turning right (car B in the diagram
>below).
>
You will have to repost Car A & Car B have driven away t.
Patrick
Brian Dooley
Beware of moving into a space in the lane to your right when the
unseen guy in the next-but-one lane to your right is thinking of
moving into the same space. A hazard on the LA Freeway.
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
Matty F
> I'm actually surprised there aren't heaps of accidents with these things.
> You can easily get cars travelling towards each other in this "lane" (median
> strip).
The unwritten rule (and possibly the law) is that the first person to
indicate a right turn on to the median strip gets to go there and the
other person doesn't.
SupergoofNZ
I'm cautious about turning into median strips for exactly this reason -
many motorists panic and think you're about to drive into the side of
their car! (especially when you're in a large vehicle)
I still turn into them when necessary, but I'm wary of frightening the
natives into doing something stupid.
But then I tend to assume all other drivers are complete fuckwits until
they prove otherwise. ;o)
Rachel
SupergoofNZ
Not just in LA ... I've seen many near misses caused by the same
situation. It always pays to check not only the lane you plan to pull
into, but the next one over as well.
Of course that doesn't help if the other guy is about to change lanes
without indicating.
Rachel
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> I'm actually surprised there aren't heaps of accidents with these things.
> You can easily get cars travelling towards each other in this "lane"
> (median strip).
That’s why it’s not a lane.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<63b7f4b0-8c74-4e47...@q32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Simon
wrote:
> On May 6, 4:24 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
> central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>> Where do people get the idea they can turn right onto a median strip and
>> treat it as a “lane” for merging into traffic?
>
> As long as they are not moving along the median strip, then they have
> every right to do so.
But if they’re not “moving along” the median strip, then they can’t just
pull out into traffic, can they?
Peter K
news:hs0ctd$ol4$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Not termed a "lane", no, but people still drive in them head on. There are
several intersections near where I live, which I think should be changed.
Why not make the median strip a real lane in its own right?
For example, see this one:
If I'm driving "up" the picture, and want to turn right into the upper road,
I'm allowed to drive on the median strip. Likewise, if someone is driving
"down" the picture, and wants to turn right onto the lower road, they are
also allowed to drive on the median strip. This could easily result in a
hazard.
ChristianKnight
"Richard" <ri...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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I agree .
Wheather they are using it to turn from a main road into a side road or
using it to merge onto the main road from the side road utilising a gap in
only the oncoming traffic.
Don't be a maeny and speed up to trap people on the medium strip flash your
lights and slow a little to indicate a safe merger if you trust the cars
behind shall share the sentiment and are not hypnotically fixed at their
currant speed.
Christ's love
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote in message
> news:hs0ctd$ol4$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>
>> In message <4be298ea$1...@news.xnet.co.nz>, Peter K wrote:
>>
>>> I'm actually surprised there aren't heaps of accidents with these
>>> things. You can easily get cars travelling towards each other in this
>>> "lane" (median strip).
>>
>> That’s why it’s not a lane.
>
> Not termed a "lane", no, but people still drive in them head on
Right at each other.
> Why not make the median strip a real lane in its own right?
In which direction?
Simon
central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> But if they’re not “moving along” the median strip, then they can’t just
> pull out into traffic, can they?
No, they must indicate and wait until a space appears into which they
can pull out. That situation is much easier than trying to navigate
against the on-coming traffic as well.
Richard
> On May 7, 6:45 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
> central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>
>> pull out into traffic, can they?
>
> No, they must indicate and wait until a space appears into which they
> can pull out. That situation is much easier than trying to navigate
> against the on-coming traffic as well.
Most painted medians are not really wide enough to do it safely, you are
either hanging out into the oncoming, or encroching into the lane of the
cars that you will be wanting to move into while doing it.
In saying that, it seems most NZ drivers think their car is about a
meter larger on all sides than it really is, if people on my street
coming across oncoming cars when there are parked ones on both sides is
anything to go by.
Also 4wd operators outside schools seem to think they can cross over the
line and make others wait while still having a massive gap between the
parked cars. I just stay on my side and drive towards them at 40 (the
stupid low limit around schools) and stop if they are in my way and honk
at them.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<f506e134-6542-41ef...@g1g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, Simon
wrote:
> On May 7, 6:45 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
> central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>
>> But if they’re not “moving along” the median strip, then they can’t just
>> pull out into traffic, can they?
>
> No, they must indicate and wait until a space appears into which they
> can pull out.
So what were you saying earlier that they had “every right to” treat the
median strip as a “lane” for merging into traffic?
lynd...@gmail.com
> Where do people get the idea they can turn right onto a median strip and
I just got failed on my full license test because I DIDNT do this. My contention was that one should only use the median strip if traffic is heavy and there are cars waiting behind you. I was marked as having a "critical error" for not pulling onto the median strip.
:(
Enkidu
Cheers,
Cliff
