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Conservative MP re paedophilia allegations: "I have to deny them."

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Morrissey Breen

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:54:42 PM11/8/12
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Max Clifford denies covering up Alan Clark's underage sex scandal
by Martin Hickman Friday, 9 November 2012
http://www.independent.co.uk/

The former government minister Alan Clark had sex with children,
according to the publicity agent Max Clifford. In a secretly filmed,
three-minute interview posted on the internet last night, the
publicist said that the Tory MP and diarist had "interfered" with two
14-year-old girls. But he added, during a discussion of his success in
suppressing scandals, that the story had never come out.

Last night Mr Clifford, who was unaware his comments were being
recorded, strenuously denied that he had told the girls' family to
stay quiet about the allegations. At the time that he learnt of the
allegations, in the 1990s, Mr Clifford did not represent Mr Clark –
but he did act for the alleged victims' family, who made less serious,
but more titillating, claims about the MP.

Mr Clark, a long-serving MP and minister in Margaret Thatcher's
government who died in 1999, said of those claims at the time: "Of
course I deny them. I have to deny them."

Mr Clark, a Tory grandee who lived at Saltwood Castle in Kent, was
known to be a philanderer. In his diaries, he recalled encountering
his wife-to-be Jane (they married when he was 30 and she 16) when she
was aged 14: "This is very exciting. She is the perfect victim, but
whether or not it will be possible to succeed I can't tell at
present."

In the video, which appears to be at least 10 years old, Mr Clifford
boasted about his ability to keep embarrassing material out of the
media and said he created a "false image" for clients.

"No problems at all as long as they're not interfering with little
kids. Absolutely no problems," he told the interviewer (who was out of
shot).

"Because I know that the truth will destroy them, and they don't
deserve that. So I create a false image. I'm deceiving people. I'm
lying, for sure."

Mr Clifford added: "But for me, it's the same kind of lie when you go
to a dinner party, and your host says: 'Did you enjoy the meal?', and
you think: well it was awful. You say: 'It was lovely, thank you.'
It's that kind of situation." Asked about his role in representing the
women who accused Mr Clark of sexual misconduct, Mr Clifford said:
"You couldn't have written the script, to make it even better and
inflame it. And Alan Clark loved the whole thing… He'd used them so
they wanted to make money out of it… He enjoyed it: he sold even more
books... The only slightly serious side about it was he'd actually
interfered with those girls from [the time they were] 14."

Last night Mr Clifford denied that he had suppressed the story about
Mr Clark. He told The Independent: "Did I ever say to anybody: 'I do
not want you to write about Alan Clark having underage sex with
underage girls'? The answer is no. From a financial point of view,
they would've got even more money for that. I would've got more money
from it."

The publicist, whose work now includes being a PR ambassador for
Children in Need, added: "It's a lot of rubbish. One of the girls did
an interview [with a newspaper] but of course there was no proof he
had done that. I wasn't particularly going to break a story on Alan
Clark and then hide something. I didn't ever say to them don't talk to
them about having underage sex with him. Was I in any way, shape or
form responsible for it not coming out? No."

Mr Clark's widow, Jane, was unavailable for comment.

peterwn

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:16:13 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 9, 1:54 pm, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Max Clifford denies covering up Alan Clark's underage sex scandal
> by Martin Hickman       Friday, 9 November
And this has what to do with New Zealand?

Roger Dewhurst

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:40:42 PM11/8/12
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Quite a lot really. Many of the population here are only a generation
or two removed from Britain, some not even that. Many of them have
mixed feelings and mixed loyalties in respect of the country in which
their ancestry lies. I certainly have. Personally my disgust for
what is happening there, politically, morally, culturally, indeed in
every sense, knows no bounds. Though I live here and consider this
country to be my home I use, for that was the only option available to
me at the time, an Australian passport. I am angry, very angry,
because my country abandoned me rather than the other way about.


"Two things are, however, relevant. Gossip did abound about Blair's
sexuality during his time in the rock band Ugly Rumours at Oxford. And
while nobody has ever stood them up, it is widely accepted that Derry
Irvine (Blair's boss in Chambers) regularly referred to him as "the
star closest to Uranus"."


http://steelmagnolia-steelmagnolia.blogspot.co.nz/2011/04/tony-blair-was-in-power-when-madeleine.html

http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://tinyurl.com/c4z68ne&usg=AFQjCNEzzUIN5tVkXZWbbHyc1lTD1se-eg


http://order-order.com/2010/09/09/is-blair-making-up-dialogue-with-queen/


http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.nz/2011/08/top-uk-pedophile-rings.html

Roger Dewhurst

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:50:38 PM11/8/12
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Pu'u Moaulanui

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Nov 9, 2012, 2:22:24 PM11/9/12
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"Roger Dewhurst" wrote:

≤⅝ Why do I insist on proving kiwis are lame, ignorant and stupid.

.

NEW ZEALAND
LUCIFERIAN PEDOPHILE "LEADERS":
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NEW ZEALAND 'common-wealth'

COMMON-FILTH
(paakehaa hero)

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EVIL LESBIAN HELEN CLARK
LABOUR PARTY LONG-LIST OF PHYSICAL SEX CRIMES
(below)

"If I hadn't gone into politics,
I would not have married."

-- New Zealand’s Helen Clark

Helen Clark who does not use her married name - has revealed her
marriage is a "necessary evil". Helen Clark Is "a barren lesbian",
according to a newly published biography. Friend and adviser
Brian Edwards has been allowed access for the biography,
Helen: Portrait of a Prime Minister.

"As a single woman, I was really hammered.
I was accused of being a lesbian, of living in
a commune, having friends who were Trotskyites
and gays, of being unstable and unable to
settle to anything."

-- New Zealand’s P.M. Helen Clark

There were rumours, Edwards writes, that her real lesbian lover
was Catherine Tizard, who later becomes governor-general.
Claims Tim Barnett encouraged a 14 year old to leave school to
work in his office. Is this grooming?
Claims former Mayor Gary Moore also part of enticement with
job offers. Labour pals stick together.
Truancy Officer was Labour supporter and aided and abetted
truancy. More pals involved.
Government money used to fly 14 year old numerous times
around country. Troughing. Given free reign around parliament and
Beehive as a 14-15 year old. WTF!
Had Speaker Jonathan Hunt intervening in favour of 14 year old
with security at Parliament.
What else was Hunt involved in?
Alleges Tim Barnett confides in 14 year old about Helen Clark,
Heather Simpson and Judith
Tizard being involved in lesbian affairs. First time this has
aired in a major publication to my knowledge.
Alleges Chris Carter was phoned and intervened on 14 year old’s
behalf with CYFS to release 14 year old.
Chris Carter denies knowing Hamish Jevan Goulter but Goulter
has photos of Carters
wedding on his Facebook page. Oh dear!
Chris Carter denies Goulter at wedding. Pants on Fire?
Chris Carter “remembers” pinging Goulter in parliament and
“sending him home” to Christchurch. Very strange explanation
Investigate holds emails between Goulter and Chris Carter
arranging wedding details
Has Carter lied?
Barnett alleges that Goulter was trying to trace his birth
mother and was emotional.
Very strange reply to serious questions. How very intimate of
Barnett to know all about the state of mind of a 14 year old.
Lianne Dalziel knowing Goulter but Investigate publishes a
photo of them together.
Oh dear, can Lianne ever tell the truth? Dalziel apologises
to Goulter in a Facebook
chat for denying she knew him. Liar, Liar, pants on Fire.
Tim Barnett and Labour functionary and ADHB board member
Dr. Ian Scott conspire
to get drunk Goulter off work to continue partying. More
grooming behaviour, two drunk
older gay men assisting a drunk underage teenager to abscond
from work.
Tim Barnett provided taxpayer funded taxi-chits to Goulter
regularly. Oh they do trough don’t they.
Alleges Helen Clark overrode Jacinda Ardern on issue of Goulter
drinking at Premier House.
Jacinda Ardern so far is the only Labour person who looks like
and acts like a person with responsibility.
Drank frequently with Michael Cullen, Lianne Dalziel, Ruth Dyson,
and Annette King.
Old soak eh Lianne? Always on the turps.
Goulter alleges he spent considerable time in Jonathan Hunt’s
office and flat, alleges he could do what he likes.
Goulter alleges that Tim Barnett, his partner Ramon, Chris Carter,
Charles Chauvel regularly smoked marijuana with him.
Alleges Chris Carter and him were in regular contact and Carter
enjoyed being out with “twinkies”.
Alleges Michael Cullen also smoked Marijuana at Labour
Conference. Carter says “no cigarette has passed his lips in
30 years”. Interesting choice of description.
I have never heard of a joint referred to as a “cigarette”.

Goulter alleges that Tim Barnett made homosexual advances
on him. Goulter alleges Barnett made him sit down on a chair
with him, and lunged and tried to kiss him.
Goulter was at one time under the “care of the Speaker’s Office”.
Whatever that is supposed to mean.
Alleges Judith Tizard paid Mika hush money to keep Goulter
quiet in election year via Arts grants. I always wondered
what Tizard actually did, now we know, she allegedly paid
the bribes.










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