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paulsy

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Aug 31, 2000, 1:59:55 AM8/31/00
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Experts or fools?
$1.78 million for that McCahon crap!!!
Who's kidding who?

paul


Idiot/Savant

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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Well, Te Papa _does_ have an interest in assembling a decent
collection of NZ art. The problem is that only art critics seem to
have any appreciation of McCahon's work. To the rest of us, it's just
graffitti on canvas... massively overvalued, and not particularly
interesting.

[Hmmm. If only the Dadaists were still around. They could
graffitti an underpass with a duplicate of McCahon's work...]

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Rangi

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:16:13 GMT, id...@not-flat.net.nz (Idiot/Savant) wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 05:59:55 GMT, pau...@yahoo.com (paulsy) wrote:
>

> Well, Te Papa _does_ have an interest in assembling a decent
>collection of NZ art. The problem is that only art critics seem to
>have any appreciation of McCahon's work. To the rest of us, it's just
>graffitti on canvas... massively overvalued, and not particularly
>interesting.
>

How much did the Gov't have to pump into te papa to keep it going last year.
$20,000,000 wasn;'t it ?
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paulsy

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Aug 31, 2000, 9:41:52 AM8/31/00
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Art critics seem to be the only ones with an 'appreciation' of any art
and they spend all their time coning us ( particularly the stupid
'rich' ) into paying ridiculous sums of money to acquire it.

paul


On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:16:13 GMT, id...@not-flat.net.nz (Idiot/Savant)
wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 05:59:55 GMT, pau...@yahoo.com (paulsy) wrote:
>

> Well, Te Papa _does_ have an interest in assembling a decent
>collection of NZ art. The problem is that only art critics seem to
>have any appreciation of McCahon's work. To the rest of us, it's just
>graffitti on canvas... massively overvalued, and not particularly
>interesting.
>

Annemarie

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Aug 31, 2000, 9:54:22 PM8/31/00
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Who is coning who. Only fools with over inflated egos buy art they do not
actually like

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bob

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Aug 31, 2000, 11:10:21 PM8/31/00
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heheh to right paulsy......

the best for me is the "blank canvas" paintings ie nothing on them by some
so called famous artist..........

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paulsy

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Sep 1, 2000, 12:38:22 AM9/1/00
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You agree with me then.
Do art critics sell cars in their spare time , I wonder?
They should. They would be pretty damn good at it.

paul

Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:54:22 +1200, "Annemarie"

Enkidu

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Sep 1, 2000, 3:58:34 AM9/1/00
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Idiot/Savant wrote:
>
> The problem is that only art critics seem to have any
> appreciation of McCahon's work.
>
I guess you didn't see the McCahon painting in the "Exhibition
of the Millenium"? An excellent accessible painting. I think
of it when I travel in on the train and see the eastern hills
behind Eastbourne.

I LIKE the big murals. Unfortunately, you can't always see them
all at once from one vantage point. You don't get the (pun
alert) big picture..

Cheers,

Cliff


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Enkidu

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Sep 1, 2000, 4:03:30 AM9/1/00
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paulsy wrote:
>
> Art critics seem to be the only ones with an 'appreciation'
> of any art and they spend all their time conning us

> ( particularly the stupid 'rich' ) into paying ridiculous
> sums of money to acquire it.
>
Paul, when you stop dropping the coins into the slotties, THEN
you can call others stupid! (Sorry, personal feelings breaking
through). The rich aren't stupid or they wouldn't be rich. Any
money they spend on art, they will get back when they sell it
to others more "stupid" than themselves.

Max Burke

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Sep 1, 2000, 5:57:52 AM9/1/00
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>Enkidu wrote in message <39AF62D2...@cliffs.co.nz>...
>paulsy wrote:

>> Art critics seem to be the only ones with an 'appreciation'
>> of any art and they spend all their time conning us
>> ( particularly the stupid 'rich' ) into paying ridiculous
>> sums of money to acquire it.

>Paul, when you stop dropping the coins into the slotties, THEN
>you can call others stupid! (Sorry, personal feelings breaking
>through). The rich aren't stupid or they wouldn't be rich. Any
>money they spend on art, they will get back when they sell it
>to others more "stupid" than themselves.

I dont know about that......

Rupert Murdoch dropping $47,000,000.00 US on a baccarat table in Las Vegas
in three days seems pretty stupid to me....

But the cocktail waitress that told him she was paying a mortgage wasn't;
She got a $125,000 tip for telling him that....

Of course that $47m was just so much small change to him...
His average bets were/are 125 - 150 thousand dollars a hand AND he often has
two or three hands going at once....
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paulsy

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Sep 1, 2000, 7:31:31 PM9/1/00
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Well, I almost qualify under your terms.
Its been so long since I last went to Skycity I almost need to ask
directions on how to get there. Remarkable considering I actually won
on my last 2 visits ( no easy task ).
Apart from a very modest bit of dabbling at an online casino (
curiousity more than anything) I have spent almost nothing on slot
machines.

How 'stupid' did you say I could call them?

Ok, so they may be not so stupid in the long term but someone ends up
holding the crap in the end - does it have to be a public gallery
using public funds?

paul


On Fri, 01 Sep 2000 20:03:30 +1200, Enkidu <enk...@cliffs.co.nz>
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Enkidu

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Sep 1, 2000, 7:14:31 PM9/1/00
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Mr Scooter wrote:
>
> Merely because he has one stupid habit doesn't mean he is
> stupid all the time.
>
I bite back the retort that immediately springs to mind, Scoots!

> >The rich aren't stupid or they wouldn't be rich.
>

> Explain how those born with a silver spoon in their mouth
> fit into your scenario.

Hmm, well they start out rich, but would not remain so long if
they turn out to be stupid.

Max Burke

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Sep 2, 2000, 1:25:57 AM9/2/00
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Yeah......

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James Lawry wrote in message ...
>mlvburke@re*pl*ce.co.nz says...


>
>> Rupert Murdoch dropping $47,000,000.00 US on a baccarat table in Las
Vegas
>> in three days seems pretty stupid to me....
>>
>> But the cocktail waitress that told him she was paying a mortgage wasn't;
>> She got a $125,000 tip for telling him that....
>>
>> Of course that $47m was just so much small change to him...
>> His average bets were/are 125 - 150 thousand dollars a hand AND he often
has
>> two or three hands going at once....
>

>Don't you mean Kerry Packer?
>
>James Lawry.

Pete

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Sep 2, 2000, 8:07:29 AM9/2/00
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"Max Burke" <mlvburke@re*pl*ce.co.nz> wrote in message
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Twas Kerry Packer and it was $US20 mill, not 47 (as tho that makes a
difference.....jeeeez)


Brian Dooley

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Sep 2, 2000, 3:02:24 PM9/2/00
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:27:10 -0400, James Lawry
<james...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>mlvburke@re*pl*ce.co.nz says...


>
>> Rupert Murdoch dropping $47,000,000.00 US on a baccarat table in Las Vegas
>> in three days seems pretty stupid to me....
>>
>> But the cocktail waitress that told him she was paying a mortgage wasn't;
>> She got a $125,000 tip for telling him that....
>>
>> Of course that $47m was just so much small change to him...
>> His average bets were/are 125 - 150 thousand dollars a hand AND he often has
>> two or three hands going at once....
>

>Don't you mean Kerry Packer?

She must do. I've never heard that Murdoch was the last of the
big spenders.


Brian Dooley

Wellington New Zealand

Max Burke

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Sep 2, 2000, 7:04:35 PM9/2/00
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I was remembering it from the a newspaper article; It was $47m (NZ) not US $

But that was on Wednesday, given the NZ $ exchange rate its probably now
$50m NZ.......

And he has a way to go to match some of the other big time gamblers of the
world......


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Glen Fletcher

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IT'S JUST MONEY BULLSHIT, WE HAVE BECOME A SOCIETY OBSESSED BY FINANCIAL
WORTH, THAT IS SAD NOT THE ART IN MY EYES.
I'M THE SAME I JUST FIND IT SAD.
BABYMASH.


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