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vitw

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Jan 2, 2010, 5:07:11 PM1/2/10
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Anyone offering a potion or therapy with weight loss claims is not
allowed to advertise their offering without Medsafe approval, which
itself requires tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus dozens of
supportive studies.

On the other hand, anyone can offer their infomercial machine-of-the-
month and make all kinds of claims, even claims which are grossly
physiologically inaccurate.

This sticks out pretty severely. I'm amazed the MoH hasn't jumped on it.

Fred

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:17:39 AM1/3/10
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"vitw" <nos...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> Anyone offering a potion or therapy with weight loss claims is not
> allowed to advertise their offering without Medsafe approval, which
> itself requires tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus dozens of
> supportive studies.
>
> On the other hand, anyone can offer their infomercial machine-of-the-
> month and make all kinds of claims, even claims which are grossly
> physiologically inaccurate.
>

They can get into trouble for ay fase claims. Trouble is with these sort of
things the whole system operates in a nutter's world - and they don't seem
to complain. One thing that amazes me is those clowns floging magnetic
blankets. They sail close to the line. There's another dreamer who flogs
wrist bracelets that take batteries and cure insomnia. He used to offer a
money back guarantee, but doesn't anymore.


Geopelia

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Jan 3, 2010, 3:45:08 PM1/3/10
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"vitw" <nos...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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Most people would just have a good laugh at these ridiculous "ab" machines'
weight loss claims.
But the one that swings from side to side looks rather fun, and it would
probably tighten up one's mid section.
And buying a machine would be cheaper than going to a gym.

Hard work is probably the best exercise there is, especially pitching
sheaves all day. But who does that these days?


Nicolaas Hawkins

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Jan 3, 2010, 3:52:59 PM1/3/10
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Geopelia <phil...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Moreover, would they know what a sheaf WAS?

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Geopelia

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:44:47 PM1/3/10
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"Nicolaas Hawkins" <grump...@t.large> wrote in message
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Or how to stook them properly. That was good exercise too, but rough on
one's arms with the scratchy stalks.
Or even how to make one, before the days of the reaper binder. We still had
to do that if the string had broken, by twisting a few stalks. Then pitch
them up on to the cart, later.

There is a sheaf on the New Zealand Coat of Arms, bottom left corner.


SupergoofNZ

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:54:56 PM1/3/10
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Geopelia wrote:
> "vitw" <nos...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:4b3fb57f$1...@news.orcon.net.nz...
>> Anyone offering a potion or therapy with weight loss claims is not
>> allowed to advertise their offering without Medsafe approval, which
>> itself requires tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus dozens of
>> supportive studies.
>>
>> On the other hand, anyone can offer their infomercial machine-of-the-
>> month and make all kinds of claims, even claims which are grossly
>> physiologically inaccurate.
>>
>> This sticks out pretty severely. I'm amazed the MoH hasn't jumped on it.
>>
>
> Most people would just have a good laugh at these ridiculous "ab" machines'
> weight loss claims.
> But the one that swings from side to side looks rather fun, and it would
> probably tighten up one's mid section.

It makes my back ache just looking at that thing! I don't imagine it
would be terribly good for anybody with back problems.


Rachel

Lyndon Watson

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:41:31 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 4, 10:44 am, "Geopelia" <phildo...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> "Nicolaas Hawkins" <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote in message
> > Geopelia <phildo...@xtra.co.nz>  wrote:

> >> Hard work is probably the best exercise there is, especially pitching
> >> sheaves all day. But who does that these days?
>
> > Moreover, would they know what a sheaf WAS?
>
> Or how to stook them properly. That was good exercise too, but rough on
> one's arms with the scratchy stalks.
> Or even how to make one, before the days of the reaper binder. We still had
> to do that if the string had broken, by twisting a few stalks. Then pitch
> them up on to the cart, later.

If you can't find sheaves, try sledging hay. That's what used to get
me fit in the summer (and it's actually enjoyable work, better than
sitting on the tractor all day) but, alas [cue violins] the fashion
for big bales has done away with that too.

The last use our old reaper binder had was as a mower for maize for
cattle fodder. A sad ending for a faithful old machine.

> There is a sheaf on the New Zealand Coat of Arms, bottom left corner.

The Canterbury coat of arms is a gruesome thing with sheaves and dead
sheep.

LW

A _L_ P

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:58:35 PM1/3/10
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A sheaf is an old-fashioned word for what a boy ought to put on his
willie before he shags anyone even if he's straight.

A L P

Nicolaas Hawkins

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:06:09 PM1/3/10
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Nice one, ALPie. A 10-pointer.

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Geopelia

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:29:23 PM1/3/10
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"Nicolaas Hawkins" <grump...@t.large> wrote in message
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Especially if he's shagging a corn dolly. But who would know what that is
either, these days.


Rich...@hotmail.com

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:37:04 PM1/3/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:58:35 +1300, A _L_ P <hay.he...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:

That's a sheath, A L P

Geopelia

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:40:34 PM1/3/10
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"Lyndon Watson" <te...@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
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On Jan 4, 10:44 am, "Geopelia" <phildo...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> "Nicolaas Hawkins" <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote in message
> > Geopelia <phildo...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> >> Hard work is probably the best exercise there is, especially pitching
> >> sheaves all day. But who does that these days?
>
> > Moreover, would they know what a sheaf WAS?
>
> Or how to stook them properly. That was good exercise too, but rough on
> one's arms with the scratchy stalks.
> Or even how to make one, before the days of the reaper binder. We still
> had
> to do that if the string had broken, by twisting a few stalks. Then pitch
> them up on to the cart, later.

If you can't find sheaves, try sledging hay. That's what used to get
me fit in the summer (and it's actually enjoyable work, better than
sitting on the tractor all day) but, alas [cue violins] the fashion
for big bales has done away with that too.

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Or carrying those oblong bales up a ladder, stuck on a pitchfork over your
shoulder, and stacking them in the hayloft.
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The last use our old reaper binder had was as a mower for maize for
cattle fodder. A sad ending for a faithful old machine.

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I went to an auction on a farm in Wales, years ago. They had a horse drawn
reaper that wasn't a binder too, with long rotating arms that left the oats
lying in small sheaf sized heaps, ready for tying by hand. Everyone had a
good laugh, but it really belonged in a museum. I hope it ended up in one.

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bugalugs

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:04:12 PM1/3/10
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He lisps

Nicolaas Hawkins

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:09:14 AM1/4/10
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Geopelia <phil...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Nope - you've got me on that one, Geo.
Sounds like it could be a touch ...err ... uncomfortable.

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Nicolaas Hawkins

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:12:21 AM1/4/10
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<Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:

All depends on yer pronuncimication, Rich.

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A _L_ P

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:11:59 AM1/4/10
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That weally ithn't twue.

A L P

Brian Dooley

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:31:43 AM1/4/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:26:28 +1300, Br. Scooter
<br.sc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On , , Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:52:59 +1300, Re: Health claims: legal inconsistencies,

>You bring them in, whatever they are.
>
>"Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheaves,
>We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves;
>Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheaves,
>We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves."

I know what they are, as below:
http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/aboutcheshire/Crest.htm
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Geopelia

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:16:48 AM1/4/10
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"Br. Scooter" <br.sc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On , , Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:31:43 +1300, Re: Health claims: legal
> But there is no cat on Cheshires COA's.
> How can this be?
>
It's disappeared except for its grin, and that is inside the helmet.


Geopelia

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:19:37 AM1/4/10
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"Br. Scooter" <br.sc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On , , Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:41:31 -0800 (PST), Re: Health claims: legal
> From memory, aren't the sheep in slings?
>
The sheep on the NZ Coat of Arms is in a sling.


Brian Dooley

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:32:39 AM1/5/10
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They are both in the best of company. Try:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Golden_Fleece

Brian Dooley

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:32:38 AM1/5/10
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There are three cats in evidence, and you should note that
Charles Dodgson was born in Cheshire.

Brian Dooley

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:32:41 AM1/5/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:48:21 +1300, Br. Scooter
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>On , , Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:29:23 +1300, Re: Health claims: legal inconsistencies,

>I have an abridged copy of Frasiers "Golden Bough". There is a lot in there
>about corn dollies.
>>

Wrong Frazer I think.

~misfit~

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:33:45 AM1/7/10
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I haven't seen one of those since the last harvest festival I went to.
--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.


~misfit~

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:36:30 AM1/7/10
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I have exactly the same feeling whenever I see it Rachel.

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