Another Vaccine Victim

[Willy Nilly]

Friend of a friend -- fit 47yo rural worker -- had a stroke in his
home, lay for 2 days before discovered. Tetrapalegic now. Turns out
he got pericarditis 8 months earlier. His life is destroyed.

These are totally covid-vaccine injuries -- this sort of thing never
happened before 2021. Never acknowledged as such by the doctors, of
course, and unreported in the media. The people are NZ are gaslit
every day by our authorities who are as thick as two short planks.

"Safe and Effective".

[Rich80105]

Covid 19 is not safe, but does in some cases present as acute
pericarditis - see for example:
https://casereports.bmj.com/content/15/1/e243768

Which authorities do you believe are gaslighting you every day? I am
not aware of any Health Minister for example misleading anyone as you
claim, including the current Minister. Perhaps it is your Friend of a
friend that has mislead you . . . There is sadly a lot of
mis-information out there about Covid.

[Willy Nilly]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am not aware of any ...

You never are, Rich, as you show every day. It is ideology which is
your point in trade, not awareness.

> Perhaps it is your Friend of a friend that has mislead you . . .

He is in permanent care now, a tetraplegic.

> There is sadly a lot of mis-information out there about Covid.

This is about the vaccine. Certainly those who claim vaccine injuries
to be covid injuries are trading in "mis-information", as you put it.

[Rich80105]

I am sorry for your friend of a friend - but whether from the virus
itself, or less likely but still possible from the vaccine may be very
difficult to determine - and probably does not matter to those that
know him.

If you google "pericarditis covid" there are a lot of studies over a
long time; these seem to indicate that there is a small risk of
pericarditis after the mRNA vaccine, but is more often associated with
Covid infection itself - see for example:
https://starship.org.nz/guidelines/covid-19-post-vaccination-pericarditis-myocarditis/
and
https://www.cureus.com/articles/91106-new-perspectives-on-long-covid-syndrome-the-development-of-unusually-delayed-and-recurring-pericarditis-after-a-primary-sars-cov-2-infection#!/
https://www.thecardiologyadvisor.com/general-cardiology/trends-of-acute-pericarditis-among-patients-with-long-covid-19-syndrome/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9464705/.

While New Zealand did very well with our Covid response, we have lost
3817 lives, with 2.5 million cases of Covid, and currently around 200
cases in hospital from around 900 cases per week. Severe disability
such as tetraplegia is certainly an extreme result from Covid
infection, and I am sure we can all understand how distressing such a
condition must be to all who know your friend of a friend.

[Willy Nilly]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I am sorry for your friend of a friend - but whether from the virus
>itself, or less likely but still possible from the vaccine may be very
>difficult to determine - and probably does not matter to those that
>know him.

If it is from the vaccine, which is basically 100% certain, then you
all have ticking time bombs within you. Guess what, that matters.

[Rich80105]

Certainly possible, but what makes you think that in this case being
from the vaccine is basically 100% certain?

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 21:21:29 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

> These are totally covid-vaccine injuries -- this sort of thing never
> happened before 2021.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_memory>

[Willy Nilly]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 23:42:39 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>If it is from the vaccine, which is basically 100% certain, then you
>>all have ticking time bombs within you. Guess what, that matters.
>
>Certainly possible, but what makes you think that in this case being
>from the vaccine is basically 100% certain?

Because only the vaxxed get these terrible medical events at young
ages, never the unvaxxed. Which, by the way, is why
"covid-unvaccinated" is now a prohibited reporting category in
government health statistics all over the world.

[Rich80105]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 00:59:40 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Feb 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 23:42:39 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>>If it is from the vaccine, which is basically 100% certain, then you
>>>all have ticking time bombs within you. Guess what, that matters.
>>
>>Certainly possible, but what makes you think that in this case being
>>from the vaccine is basically 100% certain?
>
>Because only the vaxxed get these terrible medical events at young
>ages, never the unvaxxed.

Do you have any evidence supporting that statement?

Besides, you indicated that the friend of a friend was aged 47 - do
you regard that as a young age?

>Which, by the way, is why
>"covid-unvaccinated" is now a prohibited reporting category in
>government health statistics all over the world.

I have not seen any evidence of prohibition of reporting such a
statistic; I suspect it is not reported because it is very difficult
to calculate - our population is changing daily, with births, deaths,
immigration and emigration. We do not classify deaths for example by
vaccination status, nor do we require disclosure of vaccination status
for international travelers

[Gordon]

And it would help if one was able to talk freely about it.

[Tony]

Yes it would but that would mean open and honest dalogue with people who are
open minded - so not Rich.

[Rich80105]

What is stopping you?

[Willy Nilly]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 00:59:40 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>Because only the vaxxed get these terrible medical events at young
>>ages, never the unvaxxed.
>Do you have any evidence supporting that statement?

You cannot find any such unvaxxed, so that is your evidence.

>Besides, you indicated that the friend of a friend was aged 47 - do
>you regard that as a young age?

Medically, that is young.

>>Which, by the way, is why
>>"covid-unvaccinated" is now a prohibited reporting category in
>>government health statistics all over the world.
>I have not seen any evidence of prohibition of reporting such a
>statistic;

You cannot find any such reporting, so that is your evidence.

> We do not classify deaths for example by vaccination status

That was the question, not the answer.

[Gordon]

On 2024-02-20, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 00:59:40 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 20 Feb 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 23:42:39 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>>>If it is from the vaccine, which is basically 100% certain, then you
>>>>all have ticking time bombs within you. Guess what, that matters.
>>>
>>>Certainly possible, but what makes you think that in this case being
>>>from the vaccine is basically 100% certain?
>>
>>Because only the vaxxed get these terrible medical events at young
>>ages, never the unvaxxed.
> Do you have any evidence supporting that statement?
>
> Besides, you indicated that the friend of a friend was aged 47 - do
> you regard that as a young age?
>

To be clear, with the average age of 82 years the probability of some one 47
years old dying in the next year is very low. So it is the numbers of people
dying before 60, say, which is important.

As the saying goes, He/she/etc was too young to die. (Regardless of the
cause of death).

[Gordon]

On 2024-02-20, Willy Nilly <w...@qwert.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 00:59:40 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>>Because only the vaxxed get these terrible medical events at young
>>>ages, never the unvaxxed.
>>Do you have any evidence supporting that statement?
>
> You cannot find any such unvaxxed, so that is your evidence.
>
>>Besides, you indicated that the friend of a friend was aged 47 - do
>>you regard that as a young age?
>
> Medically, that is young.

Chad and Nigeria have a life expectancy of 54 years. So in these countries
47 is likely to be considered getting old.

(Yes I am being the Devil's advocate)

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