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Gordon
Jan 13, 2024, 4:58:54 PM1/13/24
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After watching the Geoff buys car link below I thought a verification (People
use the phrase fact check these days) would be in order.
A quick Google brought up
https://www.greenbiz.com/article/giant-desert-solar-farms-might-have-unintended-climate-consequences
Dated March 2021. Almost 3 years ago. I have not heard of this. So this
seems to be another possibility which has been kept hidden.
So it looks like we are going down the road of trying to change the climate
one way while boosting up the change in the other direction.
Nature is still showing us humans how to do it, by photosynthesis and cools the
air. Been doing it for a million or two years.
I do wonder if the IPCC folks have thrown this into their models.
This is a copy of most of the transcript of Geoff Buys Cars, which started
which drew my attention to it. It says much the same as about link.
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsKfJX2EF-o
[Background]
I want
to read this to you I just had to to
share this in the hope that you all read
it says the original poster as more and
more counties get more solar Farms
here's some truth about solar Farms from
a Stevenville resident George
Franklin.
"I should start by telling you
what bonafides I have for writing this I
am a retired aerospace engineer a
literal rocket scientist if you will I
worked on MS Peacekeeper space shuttle
Hubble brilliant Pebbles Pacos p a c o s
s space station mmu B2 the Sultan of
br's half a billion dollar private 747
with Crystal showers gold sinks and a
$100 a yard quaffed silk
carpets I designed a sat phone
installation on Prince Jeff's 757 I did
all the design work for the structure of
the mark four propulsion module
currently flying on at least three
spacecraft that I know of some of the
more exciting projects I have worked on
are not sharable my personal projects
include a spin fishing reel with a 4 and
1/2 in spool which is entirely my own
design Manu machined and assembled it
has two features that are patentable a
unique true flat level wind and a unique
line pickup mechanism I am also an FAA
certified glider pilot and an FAI
certified gold glider pilot I fly both
full scale and model sale planes I am
Microsoft certified and com TI a A+
certified.”
[The really interesting stuff]
Wow I got a degree in
English this guy's pretty legit he goes
on solar panels are at best about 20%
efficient they convert almost % of the
UV light that hits them none of the
visible spectrum and only some of the
infrared Spectrum at the same time as
they are absorbing light they are
absorbing heat from the Sun this
absorbed heat is radiated into the
adjacent atmosphere it should be obvious
what happens next when air is warmed it
rises even small differences in ordinary
land surfaces are capable of creating
powerful forces of weather like
thunderstorms and tornadoes these
weather phenomena are initiated and
reinforced by land features as they are
blown down wind it is all too obvious to
me what will happen with the heat
generated by an entire solar farm solar
Farms will become thunderstorm and
tornado incubators and magnets solar
panels are dark and they emit energy to
the space above them when they are not
being radiated this is known as black
body radiation satellites flying in
space use this phenomenon to cool
internal components if they didn't do
this they would fry themselves so solar
Farms not only produce more heat in
summer than the original land that they
were installed on but they also produce
more Cooling in Winter the excaratinga extremes
so I conclude with
this there is nothing green about green
energy except the Dirty Money flowing
into corrupt pockets there is no such
thing as green energy the science
doesn't exist the technology doesn't
exist the engineering doesn't exist we
are being pushed s to save the planet
with solutions that are worse than the
problems. “
that's um there's quite a lot
to digest there I have done a video
previously on the ethical side of solar
panels if you search in YouTube Jeff
biscast solar panels you can watch that
where I analyze the ethical consumer
article on solar panels that says that
you basically cannot buy an ethical
solar panel there is no solar panel
brand that you can buy from who can
guarantee that they don't use slave
labor in their supply chain so now on
top of the fact that you've got uh 20%
efficiency you've got a product that is
built in horrendous circumstances often
using people that have been moved from
one place to another uh fenced off with
Barb Wire and all that sort of stuff
obviously all in China
now you've got an actual person that
knows about all of this stuff talking
about the basics of how the heat works
with solar panels and how the solar
panels themselves could be creating the
weather that is all being blamed on
climate change I'm going to leave that one there
thank you very much for watching and um
enjoy your
weekend
use the phrase fact check these days) would be in order.
A quick Google brought up
https://www.greenbiz.com/article/giant-desert-solar-farms-might-have-unintended-climate-consequences
Dated March 2021. Almost 3 years ago. I have not heard of this. So this
seems to be another possibility which has been kept hidden.
So it looks like we are going down the road of trying to change the climate
one way while boosting up the change in the other direction.
Nature is still showing us humans how to do it, by photosynthesis and cools the
air. Been doing it for a million or two years.
I do wonder if the IPCC folks have thrown this into their models.
This is a copy of most of the transcript of Geoff Buys Cars, which started
which drew my attention to it. It says much the same as about link.
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsKfJX2EF-o
[Background]
I want
to read this to you I just had to to
share this in the hope that you all read
it says the original poster as more and
more counties get more solar Farms
here's some truth about solar Farms from
a Stevenville resident George
Franklin.
"I should start by telling you
what bonafides I have for writing this I
am a retired aerospace engineer a
literal rocket scientist if you will I
worked on MS Peacekeeper space shuttle
Hubble brilliant Pebbles Pacos p a c o s
s space station mmu B2 the Sultan of
br's half a billion dollar private 747
with Crystal showers gold sinks and a
$100 a yard quaffed silk
carpets I designed a sat phone
installation on Prince Jeff's 757 I did
all the design work for the structure of
the mark four propulsion module
currently flying on at least three
spacecraft that I know of some of the
more exciting projects I have worked on
are not sharable my personal projects
include a spin fishing reel with a 4 and
1/2 in spool which is entirely my own
design Manu machined and assembled it
has two features that are patentable a
unique true flat level wind and a unique
line pickup mechanism I am also an FAA
certified glider pilot and an FAI
certified gold glider pilot I fly both
full scale and model sale planes I am
Microsoft certified and com TI a A+
certified.”
[The really interesting stuff]
Wow I got a degree in
English this guy's pretty legit he goes
on solar panels are at best about 20%
efficient they convert almost % of the
UV light that hits them none of the
visible spectrum and only some of the
infrared Spectrum at the same time as
they are absorbing light they are
absorbing heat from the Sun this
absorbed heat is radiated into the
adjacent atmosphere it should be obvious
what happens next when air is warmed it
rises even small differences in ordinary
land surfaces are capable of creating
powerful forces of weather like
thunderstorms and tornadoes these
weather phenomena are initiated and
reinforced by land features as they are
blown down wind it is all too obvious to
me what will happen with the heat
generated by an entire solar farm solar
Farms will become thunderstorm and
tornado incubators and magnets solar
panels are dark and they emit energy to
the space above them when they are not
being radiated this is known as black
body radiation satellites flying in
space use this phenomenon to cool
internal components if they didn't do
this they would fry themselves so solar
Farms not only produce more heat in
summer than the original land that they
were installed on but they also produce
more Cooling in Winter the excaratinga extremes
so I conclude with
this there is nothing green about green
energy except the Dirty Money flowing
into corrupt pockets there is no such
thing as green energy the science
doesn't exist the technology doesn't
exist the engineering doesn't exist we
are being pushed s to save the planet
with solutions that are worse than the
problems. “
that's um there's quite a lot
to digest there I have done a video
previously on the ethical side of solar
panels if you search in YouTube Jeff
biscast solar panels you can watch that
where I analyze the ethical consumer
article on solar panels that says that
you basically cannot buy an ethical
solar panel there is no solar panel
brand that you can buy from who can
guarantee that they don't use slave
labor in their supply chain so now on
top of the fact that you've got uh 20%
efficiency you've got a product that is
built in horrendous circumstances often
using people that have been moved from
one place to another uh fenced off with
Barb Wire and all that sort of stuff
obviously all in China
now you've got an actual person that
knows about all of this stuff talking
about the basics of how the heat works
with solar panels and how the solar
panels themselves could be creating the
weather that is all being blamed on
climate change I'm going to leave that one there
thank you very much for watching and um
enjoy your
weekend
Willy Nilly
Jan 13, 2024, 7:44:14 PM1/13/24
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On 13 Jan 2024 21:58:50 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
>I do wonder if the IPCC folks have thrown this into their models.
Let's not stop there, Gordon. Let's go doubly Green by following
>I do wonder if the IPCC folks have thrown this into their models.
these 2 Greenie recommendations:
1. Cover the Earth with solar panels.
2. After (1) is done, fill the stratosphere with solar reflecting
confetti to block the Sun's rays, thus turning (1) into junk, after
which we all freeze to death anyway.
What will the aliens make of our dead planet, hmm?
Rich80105
Jan 13, 2024, 8:01:15 PM1/13/24
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 00:44:28 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>On 13 Jan 2024 21:58:50 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
>>I do wonder if the IPCC folks have thrown this into their models.
>
>Let's not stop there, Gordon. Let's go doubly Green by following
>these 2 Greenie recommendations:
>
>1. Cover the Earth with solar panels.
Can you give a reference for that recommendation? I would like to know
>On 13 Jan 2024 21:58:50 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
>>I do wonder if the IPCC folks have thrown this into their models.
>
>Let's not stop there, Gordon. Let's go doubly Green by following
>these 2 Greenie recommendations:
>
>1. Cover the Earth with solar panels.
more about it.
>
>2. After (1) is done, fill the stratosphere with solar reflecting
>confetti to block the Sun's rays, thus turning (1) into junk, after
>which we all freeze to death anyway.
>What will the aliens make of our dead planet, hmm?
Tony
Jan 13, 2024, 8:48:31 PM1/13/24
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But then what else do you have?
Willy Nilly
Jan 13, 2024, 8:52:36 PM1/13/24
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 00:44:28 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>Let's not stop there, Gordon. Let's go doubly Green by following
>>these 2 Greenie recommendations:
>>
>>1. Cover the Earth with solar panels.
>
>Can you give a reference for that recommendation? I would like to know
>more about it.
How about you tell us when we should stop, Rich -- what is the
>On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 00:44:28 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>Let's not stop there, Gordon. Let's go doubly Green by following
>>these 2 Greenie recommendations:
>>
>>1. Cover the Earth with solar panels.
>
>Can you give a reference for that recommendation? I would like to know
>more about it.
saturation point? Greenies never say.
>>2. After (1) is done, fill the stratosphere with solar reflecting
>>confetti to block the Sun's rays, thus turning (1) into junk, after
>>which we all freeze to death anyway.
>
>Now that one I find hard to believe - again any references?
You'll be genuflecting once your precious "experts" recommend it, Rich
>>What will the aliens make of our dead planet, hmm?
>
>I'm sure they would look after you, Willy Nilly
Rich80105
Jan 14, 2024, 12:23:47 AM1/14/24
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 01:52:51 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Jan 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 00:44:28 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>>Let's not stop there, Gordon. Let's go doubly Green by following
>>>these 2 Greenie recommendations:
>>>
>>>1. Cover the Earth with solar panels.
>>
>>Can you give a reference for that recommendation? I would like to know
>>more about it.
>
>How about you tell us when we should stop, Rich -- what is the
>saturation point? Greenies never say.
>
>>>2. After (1) is done, fill the stratosphere with solar reflecting
>>>confetti to block the Sun's rays, thus turning (1) into junk, after
>>>which we all freeze to death anyway.
>>
>>Now that one I find hard to believe - again any references?
>
>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/features/500234/to-avert-climate-disaster-what-if-one-rogue-nation-dimmed-the-sun
>You'll be genuflecting once your precious "experts" recommend it, Rich
Thanks for the link, Willy Nilly. It does indicate that no-one is
>On Sun, 14 Jan 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 00:44:28 GMT, w...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
>>>Let's not stop there, Gordon. Let's go doubly Green by following
>>>these 2 Greenie recommendations:
>>>
>>>1. Cover the Earth with solar panels.
>>
>>Can you give a reference for that recommendation? I would like to know
>>more about it.
>
>How about you tell us when we should stop, Rich -- what is the
>saturation point? Greenies never say.
>
>>>2. After (1) is done, fill the stratosphere with solar reflecting
>>>confetti to block the Sun's rays, thus turning (1) into junk, after
>>>which we all freeze to death anyway.
>>
>>Now that one I find hard to believe - again any references?
>
>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/features/500234/to-avert-climate-disaster-what-if-one-rogue-nation-dimmed-the-sun
>You'll be genuflecting once your precious "experts" recommend it, Rich
recommending covering the earth with solar panels - and fiction can
give some cause for thought, or amusement . . .
>>>What will the aliens make of our dead planet, hmm?
>>
>>I'm sure they would look after you, Willy Nilly
>
>Too late, the Greenies will get us first.
their predictions of increased extremes of climate are being seen as
true in general - here in New Zealand they are the third largest
party, ahead of both ACT and NZ First - while no-one is requiring
anyone to support them they are certainly being listened to by more
people than previously; good to see you giving them your attention.
Tony
Jan 15, 2024, 10:45:14 PM1/15/24
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changnig or not is not the issue, what if anything we need to do about it is
the question. The bland assumption that the climate is changing therefore we
have to try to stop it happening is ridiculous.
Rich80105
Jan 16, 2024, 5:37:14 AM1/16/24
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agreement about actions relating to climate change that Paula Bennett
signed us up to on behalf of a previous government. So you are correct
that individually you do not have to do anything, but collectively it
is best if we avoid the financial cost of not meeting agreed emission
targets. You have been told this many times, Tony.
Tony
Jan 16, 2024, 2:37:32 PM1/16/24
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subject and provide some evidence for the first time.
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