'pakeha' & 'palangi' vs 'Nigger'

[$OLO]

I agree with you on the word pakeha being a racist term, along with
"palangi"
it pisses me off having to sign a paperwork and put my nationality as
something that means either 'white pig or white shit'

as logical as it may seem, being racist back to the people who use
these words wont solve anything. if you want to solve the problem tell
them that you think its racist, if they don't listen to you and
continue calling you that shit then go hard.
I am currently in the process of making these words legaly classified
as racist.
Whos with me?

[vitw]

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:12:59 -0800, $OLO wrote:

> I agree with you on the word pakeha being a racist term, along with
> "palangi"
> it pisses me off having to sign a paperwork and put my nationality as
> something that means either 'white pig or white shit'

The paperwork has an option for 'Pakeha'.
But I bet there's no option for 'Sea Nigger'.

[Rich...@hotmail.com]

So what terminology do you prefer? European New Zealander?

[bubba ray]

On Jan 20, 6:11 pm, Rich80...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:12:59 -0800 (PST), "$OLO"
>

Cracker.

[JohnO]

Honky

[Roger Dewhurst]

MNZ for New Zealanders of maori descent, BNZ for New Zealanders of
British descent, ENZ for New Zealanders of European descent, CNZ for
chinese descent, INZ for indian descent, PNZ for Pacific island descent
and ONZ for any other descent. When everybody get sufficiently pissed
off with the letters they might just settle for New Zealander.

R

[-Newsman-]

Non-wog.

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

In message <hj7i66$j5f$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

> MNZ for New Zealanders of maori descent, BNZ for New Zealanders of
> British descent, ENZ for New Zealanders of European descent, CNZ for
> chinese descent, INZ for indian descent, PNZ for Pacific island descent
> and ONZ for any other descent. When everybody get sufficiently pissed
> off with the letters they might just settle for New Zealander.

I’d go along with that. :)

--
Lawrence “Either “EANZ” or “SEANZ“” D’Oliveiro

[Lyndon Watson]

On Jan 21, 7:31 am, Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:

> Rich80...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > So what terminology do you prefer? European New Zealander?
>
> MNZ for New Zealanders of maori descent, BNZ for New Zealanders of
> British descent, ENZ for New Zealanders of European descent, CNZ for
> chinese descent, INZ for indian descent, PNZ for Pacific island descent
> and ONZ for any other descent.  When everybody get sufficiently pissed
> off with the letters they might just settle for New Zealander.

Every now and again Roger says something sensible. Well done that
man.

LW

[Allistar]

Rich...@hotmail.com wrote:

New Zealander.

I don't want to be, nor do I need to be pigeon-holed by where my ancestors
came from.
--
A good End cannot sanctify evil Means; nor must we ever do Evil, that Good
may come of it. -William Penn

[Brian Dooley]

I don't think I'll live long enough for next time.
--

Brian Dooley

Wellington New Zealand

[Roger Dewhurst]

Good riddance then.

R

[Roger Dewhurst]

Actually I thought, in retrospect, that it was one of my better efforts too.

R

>
> LW
>

[Collector_NZ]

Wop, dago Towel Head, tar brush oh hell theres hundreds

[Collector_NZ]

Nope I am New Zealander, and it is seldom an option on any forms
including census

[Collector_NZ]

New Zealander is not an official option on any forms I have struck, is
our govt, Racist ???

[Allistar]

Collector_NZ wrote:

Yes, it is.

Regarding no "New Zealander" - that's what you put in "Other".

[Rich...@hotmail.com]

The Census is not racist, but questions about ethnic origin are often
misunderstood as being so.

[A _L_ P]

By George you're right. Both of you.

A L P

[A _L_ P]

Not I.

I am in favour of all words being OK rather than some words being given
extra power to cause offence. The sooner being offended goes out of
fashion the better.

A L P

[misanthropic_curmudgeon]

On Jan 21, 7:31 am, Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:

What about us mongrels?

[Roger Dewhurst]

Br. Scooter wrote:
> On , , Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:44:05 +1300, Re: 'pakeha' & 'palangi' vs 'Nigger',

> Who did you plagiarise it from?
>
Nobody! Thought up on the spot.

R
> --
> "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
> to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
> Anatole France.

[Roger Dewhurst]

MNZ/BNZ or BNZ/MNZ depending on who was on top, for example!

R

[greybeard]

"Collector_NZ" <collec...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b580133$1...@news.orcon.net.nz...

For several census rounds I put "New Zealander" in the "Other" section
of the census forms, and twice had follow up census enumerators knocking
on the the door checking this designation. I later found out via news
media
that statistics NZ changes "NZer" to "European" for several tens of
thousands
of census forms. NZer is unacceptable to them.
So, last census I put "Pacific Islander" as ethnic origin.
Reasoned like this: Statistics NZ won't accept NZer so; North Island is
in Pacific,
I must be a Pacific Islander then!
Sure enough, census enumerator came a knocking again.............

I've come to the conclusion that StatsNZ data is crap, they just change
responses
to suit the preconcieved outputs they desire. Just look at the religious
affliations
baloney they produce.

greybeard.

[Jack]

Allistar wrote:

> Rich...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:12:59 -0800 (PST), "$OLO"
>><tonywa...@woosh.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I agree with you on the word pakeha being a racist term, along with
>>>"palangi"
>>>it pisses me off having to sign a paperwork and put my nationality as
>>>something that means either 'white pig or white shit'
>>>
>>>as logical as it may seem, being racist back to the people who use
>>>these words wont solve anything. if you want to solve the problem tell
>>>them that you think its racist, if they don't listen to you and
>>>continue calling you that shit then go hard.
>>>I am currently in the process of making these words legaly classified
>>>as racist.
>>>Whos with me?
>>
>>So what terminology do you prefer? European New Zealander?
>
>
> New Zealander.
>
> I don't want to be, nor do I need to be pigeon-holed by where my ancestors
> came from.

Exactly!

[Jack]

Collector_NZ wrote:

Nothing stops you from saying that, done it for years. The Census Dept
accepts it. In fact they have to.

[Jack]

misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:

Honewira?

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[Allistar]

Br. Scooter wrote:

> On , , Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:29:15 +1300, Re: 'pakeha' & 'palangi' vs

> 'Nigger', Allistar <b...@c.com> wrote:
>
>>Rich...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:12:59 -0800 (PST), "$OLO"
>>> <tonywa...@woosh.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I agree with you on the word pakeha being a racist term, along with
>>>>"palangi"
>>>>it pisses me off having to sign a paperwork and put my nationality as
>>>>something that means either 'white pig or white shit'
>>>>
>>>>as logical as it may seem, being racist back to the people who use
>>>>these words wont solve anything. if you want to solve the problem tell
>>>>them that you think its racist, if they don't listen to you and
>>>>continue calling you that shit then go hard.
>>>>I am currently in the process of making these words legaly classified
>>>>as racist.
>>>>Whos with me?
>>>
>>> So what terminology do you prefer? European New Zealander?
>>
>>New Zealander.
>>
>>I don't want to be, nor do I need to be pigeon-holed by where my ancestors
>>came from.
>

> What are you hiding?

Nothing. I don't agree with pigeon-holing based on ancestry, gender or race.

[ChristianKnight]

"$OLO" <tonywa...@woosh.co.nz> wrote in message
news:ce6cb3cf-8016-4439...@l30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>I agree with you on the word pakeha being a racist term, along with
> "palangi"
> it pisses me off having to sign a paperwork and put my nationality as
> something that means either 'white pig or white shit'
>
> as logical as it may seem, being racist back to the people who use
> these words wont solve anything. if you want to solve the problem tell
> them that you think its racist, if they don't listen to you and
> continue calling you that shit then go hard.
> I am currently in the process of making these words legaly classified
> as racist.
> Whos with me?

Yes I agree these words a derogatory racists insults.
Christ's love

[milesm...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 5:12:59 PM UTC+13, $OLO wrote:
> I agree with you on the word pakeha being a racist term, along with
> "palangi"
> it pisses me off having to sign a paperwork and put my nationality as
> something that means either 'white pig or white shit'
>
> as logical as it may seem, being racist back to the people who use
> these words wont solve anything. if you want to solve the problem tell
> them that you think its racist, if they don't listen to you and
> continue calling you that shit then go hard.
> I am currently in the process of making these words legaly classified
> as racist.
> Whos with me?

This may be old but I don't care.
I hate the damn word, and call everyone who calls me a pakeha, a nigger.
I'd rather be called white. or kiwi. I am not european and have no traits resembling europeans. Caucasian is fine, a word that means white man worldwide.

[Fred]

Just Parki (Parkee) okay with you then?

[Allistar]

We shouldn't be asked our ethnicity at all unless it's for something medical
where that is relevant.

The sooner we stop trying to categorise people the better.

It's like the term "African American". Someone in the states with dark skin
whose great great granmother was born in Zambia is "African American", but a
fair skinned person born in Africa that moves to the USA is not. That's just
bonkers! The latter is far more an African American than the former because
they were actually born in Africa.
--
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

[victor]

So you just made a different category.

They use the class African Americans in the US because "descendants of
black slaves" is a bit embarrassing for a civilized country to admit.

You are right though, we are all descendants of dark skinned Africans.

[Allistar]

Categorising people as African American perpetuates many of the social
issues caused by bigotry.

Similarly with gender specific pronouns. The sooner we're rid of them the
better too.

> You are right though, we are all descendants of dark skinned Africans.

[victor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans


Should help you with the definition.
No mention of confusion with fair skinned immigrants in African
countries. I expect there is a word for them in the local tongue

[latepa...@gmail.com]

You are a litteral faggot. stop it. Pa'alagi is actually sky people fuckhead. Nigger mean black now get over it

[latepa...@gmail.com]

[latepa...@gmail.com]

[redfr...@gmail.com]

I am pretty sure a pig is a Poaka in Maori so whit pig would be poaka ma. How was that messed up to say Pakeha.

[Pooh]

On 13/03/2017 1:47 a.m., redfr...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am pretty sure a pig is a Poaka in Maori so whit pig would be poaka ma. How was that messed up to say Pakeha.
>

It wasn't.

Pooh

[geopelia]

wrote in message
news:ee654b67-ca90-4f23...@googlegroups.com...

...................

When I was young (1930s) we all used the N word and didn't think anything of
it.
There was a rhyme "Ten little N..... boys" that every child knew in Britain.
Then we were told to say Darky instead. I think that could be offensive
too, these days.

I try not to offend anybody, and I don't care what folks call me. (I'm
English).

[p.tim...@gmail.com]

Pakeha is an insult but palagi is a compliment you dumbass it means people from the sky. You were called gods

[lomezbro...@gmail.com]

Bro who told you “pakeha” means white shit ? Lol you are mis informed and who ever told you that is well we call in maori “ignorant EGG”😂

Anyway, I was told that the word pakeha comes from the ancestors. The word “Pa” means - village or place. The word “keha” is short for “kehakeha” which means “majical or mysterious etc” . Together meaning “magical place”.

Story goes when Maori people First saw European ships sail in to aotearoa they came on big magical vessels with luscious sails and obviously technology that no one had ever seen. Al ready baffled, these men had skin that shine bright and mystical. Then these men proceeded to paddle into shore on small boats paddling there canoes forwards but they were facing backwards? . The people though wow — these people must come from a “magical place”. Hence the name

Pakeha.

[hoani...@gmail.com]

Tena koe e hoa, the last bro's deffinition was close. pakeha was short for pakehakeha - one of the sea gods of oral tradition.some legends say these beings were light skinned and rowed their canoes backwards like the english did. hence the comparison. it has no derogatory meaning in any way in the maori language and isnt used as anything else but to identify a people as opposed to us.the difference between me and the bro complaining about the word meaning white pig is he has no knowledge of our culture or language and no idea what he's saying.i am maori (tuhoe) and fluent in te reo. its only a racist term in your own head bro. you are the one insulting yourself ,we aren't.

[charli...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:12:59 UTC+13, $OLO wrote:
> I agree with you on the word pakeha being a racist term, along with
> "palangi"
> it pisses me off having to sign a paperwork and put my nationality as
> something that means either 'white pig or white shit'
>
> as logical as it may seem, being racist back to the people who use
> these words wont solve anything. if you want to solve the problem tell
> them that you think its racist, if they don't listen to you and
> continue calling you that shit then go hard.
> I am currently in the process of making these words legaly classified
> as racist.
> Whos with me?

Pa-Keha (The name given to Europeans)means the Insanitary People (Pa, clan, people or nation ; ke-ha. insanitary, diseased, stagnant, bad-breathed, scrofulous, syphilitic)--a reference to the spreading by Europeans of such diseases as syphilis, gonorrhea, tuberculosis, etc., etc.
Maori Symbolism,
Author; Ettie A, Rout
Publi8shed 1926