KDE 4.4 Videos
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
adaptation of one or two features from Windows Seven.
Gordon
Shit, 4.4 is here already ;-)
Nothing wrong with copying someone, after all, it is the sincerest form of
flattery
Allistar
If only it would support multi-session like KDE3.5 does.
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Stephen Worthington
Maybe you need to look at submitting a patch to do that.
Allistar
I have investigated this and it would be more than just a simple patch.
Apparently this part of the system is quite complicated and there are a lot
of assumptions made in KDE about how many KDE sessions are running.
If it were a case of a simple change, I would happily provide a patch. In
this case I don't think it is.
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Gordon
So feed it back to the developers.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> If it were a case of a simple change, I would happily provide a patch. In
> this case I don't think it is.
Have you thought of running different sessions in separate chroots?
Allistar
They are away of it, more than just I have noticed this feature missing.
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Allistar
No, but that would a very cumbersome solution.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Why?
Allistar
> In message <muWdnThLIe7-TtfW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
> wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message <orydnYSa3PX9rtfW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it were a case of a simple change, I would happily provide a patch.
>>>> In this case I don't think it is.
>>>
>>> Have you thought of running different sessions in separate chroots?
>>
>> No, but that would a very cumbersome solution.
>
> Why?
I would likely have issues with communication between the two running window
managers (i.e. I couldn't drag and drop files between the two instances of
KDE for example).
It is an interesting idea though. To pull it off I suppose I'd have to share
my existing directories (/usr, /opt, /var, /etc, /home etc) with the chroot
via an NFS export. If I can't get an accelerated 3 or 4 head setup running
using a single instance of KDE4, I'll see if this idea will work.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message <muWdnThLIe7-TtfW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <orydnYSa3PX9rtfW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If it were a case of a simple change, I would happily provide a patch.
>>>>> In this case I don't think it is.
>>>>
>>>> Have you thought of running different sessions in separate chroots?
>>>
>>> No, but that would a very cumbersome solution.
>>
>> Why?
>
> I would likely have issues with communication between the two running
> window managers (i.e. I couldn't drag and drop files between the two
> instances of KDE for example).
Sounds like you want multiple desktops. KDE already does that.
> It is an interesting idea though. To pull it off I suppose I'd have to
> share my existing directories (/usr, /opt, /var, /etc, /home etc) with the
> chroot via an NFS export.
No, you could just use bind mounts.
Allistar
> In message <7POdnTV3ZOmj6NbW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
> wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message <muWdnThLIe7-TtfW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In message <orydnYSa3PX9rtfW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If it were a case of a simple change, I would happily provide a
>>>>>> patch. In this case I don't think it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you thought of running different sessions in separate chroots?
>>>>
>>>> No, but that would a very cumbersome solution.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> I would likely have issues with communication between the two running
>> window managers (i.e. I couldn't drag and drop files between the two
>> instances of KDE for example).
>
> Sounds like you want multiple desktops. KDE already does that.
No, multiple instances of KDE, which KDE4 does not do.
>> It is an interesting idea though. To pull it off I suppose I'd have to
>> share my existing directories (/usr, /opt, /var, /etc, /home etc) with
>> the chroot via an NFS export.
>
> No, you could just use bind mounts.
Having thought about this a bit more, it won't work. It would mean running
two separate X servers (as opposed to just two KDE instances) which would
mean needing an extra keyboard and mouse for the other X server. Hardly
sounds ideal.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message <7POdnTV3ZOmj6NbW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would likely have issues with communication between the two running
>>> window managers (i.e. I couldn't drag and drop files between the two
>>> instances of KDE for example).
>>
>> Sounds like you want multiple desktops. KDE already does that.
>
> No, multiple instances of KDE ...
Why?
>>> It is an interesting idea though. To pull it off I suppose I'd have to
>>> share my existing directories (/usr, /opt, /var, /etc, /home etc) with
>>> the chroot via an NFS export.
>>
>> No, you could just use bind mounts.
>
> Having thought about this a bit more, it won't work. It would mean running
> two separate X servers ...
Isn’t that what you were doing anyway?
> ... which would mean needing an extra keyboard and mouse for the other X
> server.
No, you can switch between them with the usual Ctrl-Alt-Fn keystrokes. After
all, switching to/from an X server from/to a text console isn’t really any
different from switching from one X server to another.
Allistar
> In message <ZsmdnXK__t8dqNHW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
> wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message <7POdnTV3ZOmj6NbW...@giganews.com>, Allistar
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would likely have issues with communication between the two running
>>>> window managers (i.e. I couldn't drag and drop files between the two
>>>> instances of KDE for example).
>>>
>>> Sounds like you want multiple desktops. KDE already does that.
>>
>> No, multiple instances of KDE ...
>
> Why?
That's the only way I've found to to get an accelerated display with 3
monitors. You cannot run the composite extension and the xinerama extension
at the same time, and Nvidia won't present a single screen to X that spans
GPUs.
>>>> It is an interesting idea though. To pull it off I suppose I'd have to
>>>> share my existing directories (/usr, /opt, /var, /etc, /home etc) with
>>>> the chroot via an NFS export.
>>>
>>> No, you could just use bind mounts.
>>
>> Having thought about this a bit more, it won't work. It would mean
>> running two separate X servers ...
>
> Isn’t that what you were doing anyway?
No, I was running one X server with two KDE instances inside it. E.g. a
xorg.conf like this:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
screen 0 "Screen A"
screen 1 "Screen B" RightOf "Screen A"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection
>> ... which would mean needing an extra keyboard and mouse for the other X
>> server.
>
> No, you can switch between them with the usual Ctrl-Alt-Fn keystrokes.
> After all, switching to/from an X server from/to a text console isn’t
> really any different from switching from one X server to another.
At the moment I can drag and drop file between KDE instances, and the mouse
moves seamlessly between them two. The only thing I cannot do is move
windows between them - but that suite me fine. Using Ctrl-Alt-Fn keys would
be a huge step backwards from what I have now.
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victor
It sounds like there is an opportunity there for you to contribute back
some useful enhancements to the free software community.
Allistar
I have already investigated this, and in this case it's more of an
architectural change than a simple patch. Momentum is building for this
change to be made, and I will participate where I can.
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