Diamond Monster 3d or Diamond Viper V330? which one? opinions.
Peter Howarth
I'm looking at upgrading my video card and would like anyones opinion
of these 2 cards (Diamond Monster 3d, Diamond Viper V330).
The BILL
The Monster is a 3D card only and is one of the best as it uses a 3Dfx
chip set and can be used with Quake II, I don't think the Viper V330
can be used with Quake..
Mind you there are a lot cheaper cards than the Monster 3D that offer
the same performance and use the same chip set..
Cardex Dragon 1000 , R.V. Flash etc...
I payed $225 for my Cardex Dragon 1000...
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Herby Jai
but I think Diamond Monster 3D is better.... u can buy a cheap VGA card with
Monster 3D...
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The BILL
On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 01:24:28 +1300, "Herby Jai" <herb...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
>but I think Diamond Monster 3D is better.... u can buy a cheap VGA card with
>Monster 3D...
>
It uses slow Ram chips not good for overclocking, in fact the Monster
did not come first in the PC PowerPlay reviews, the Orchid did and the
cheaper card cards like the Cardex came second...
The Cardex card uses 35ns ram chips the fastest of the 3Dfx cards...
You still need a Good 2D card and the ET6000 is the fastest there is
for the price for a 128 bit card...
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John Vickers
On Fri, 02 Jan 1998 12:28:49 GMT, wil...@strip.net.nz (The BILL)
wrote:
>It uses slow Ram chips not good for overclocking, in fact the Monster
>did not come first in the PC PowerPlay reviews, the Orchid did and the
>cheaper card cards like the Cardex came second...
>
>The Cardex card uses 35ns ram chips the fastest of the 3Dfx cards...
I have a Cardex and have not managed to get it to run over 55 without
crashing. I believe the latest Diamond drivers default to 57.
>You still need a Good 2D card and the ET6000 is the fastest there is
>for the price for a 128 bit card...
Does the 2D card make much difference? I have a crappy eagle S3 virge
3d and my fps rates in GLQuake compare to those I have seen posted on
the various benchmarking web sites.
What part does the 2D card play when you are playing for example
GLQuake?
John
David A. Mann
On 3 Jan 1998 21:27:09 GMT, motor...@dont.want.no.pickle (Steve)
wrote:
>You could have a Trident 8900 or a Matrox Millenium 2 and GL-Quake would
>still run at the same speed. It makes no difference. (Perhaps something
>this extreme might cause differences, but in theory it shouldn't). Standard
>Quake would give you maybe 5fps in 320x200 on the Trident but about 20fps in
>640*480 on the Millenium-2.
When I first got my pentium board and was having troubles with an old
PCI graphics card, I ended up sticking in an old Trident 8900 in til I
could afford a new S3 PCI card. You might be surprised how fast quake
runs on the old Trident - it was a lot faster than doom even, and
entirely playable. Doom *was* about 5fps. ("Playable" as far as I'm
concerned doesn't necessarily need a frame rate approaching that of
the monitor refresh). I think I know the reasons why but I won't bore
people with their details.
Having seen a 3dfx card in action though, I want one... :)
- Dave.
David A. Mann, aka Pooky- on irc
email da...@student.canterbury.ac.nz
"Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up,
while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield
Peter Howarth
>I'm looking at upgrading my video card and would like anyones opinion
>of these 2 cards (Diamond Monster 3d, Diamond Viper V330).
Anybody have or seen a Viper V330? anyone recommend a good TV-out
card?
The BILL
On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 02:13:13 GMT, hig...@spamoff.netsource.co.nz
(Peter Howarth) wrote:
I thought the Pure 3D had TV out, mind you is it PAL...??
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Colin Young
On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 07:59:19 GMT, wil...@strip.net.nz (The BILL)
wrote:
The Pure 3D does both PAL and NTSC but the PAL is limited only to
games in 3DFX mode whereas you can use the NTSC output for your
Windows 95 work (as long as the screen mode is 640x480 from memory-
must check the manual).
Peter Howarth
To ask the age old question... what's a good price? anyone got one 2nd
hand:)
Also what about voodoo2? dramatic difference? dramatic improvement?
Supposed to be released 1st quarter '98.
oCtavian
> >The Canopus Pure3d looks like the option for me.
yup, pitty nobody sells them locally in nz...
> >
> >To ask the age old question... what's a good price? anyone got one 2nd
> >hand:)
i dont know how much a pure3d would cost you if you chose to ship one from
the states... at least $300+
i bought my monster3d a few months ago for $269+gst. most people would not
notice the difference between the monster3d and the pure3d in normal game
play. i've run my monster3d along side a pure3d (which happened to be on a
faster system) and could not notice a great amount (if any) of increase in
frames per second. apparently the pure3d is great for large rooms/maps or
when you have a lot of players/monsters on your screen.
it's fact though that the pure3d has 2 extra mega bytes of texture memory
(total of 6mb) over the monster3d (total of 4mb) and that the ram is faster
in the pure3d (not sure of the exact figures).
> >
> >Also what about voodoo2? dramatic difference? dramatic improvement?
> >Supposed to be released 1st quarter '98.
>
> Since no-one has one, they're unlikely to be able to offer an opinion.
> Prior opinions and test-version benchmarks show about a 300% improvement
in
> speed in some cases and a mild improvement in graphical quality over the
> standard Voodoo chipset.
>
> Go have a look at the Voodoo-2 FAQ on http://www.op3dfx.com
test versions of the voodoo2 sound amazing. one of the developers at ID
Software (makers of doom1&2/quake1&2) tested a pre-release voodoo2 along
side other 3D cards in the market using the recently released Quake2.
results were astounding. here are a few results of some interest. (more
results on this page
http://finger.planetquake.com/qfplan.asp?userid=bwh&id=4897)
3Dfx Reference 3Dfx Voodoo2 SLI 4/4/4 640x480 67.5fps
Canopus Pure3D 3Dfx Voodoo 6MB 640x480 27.0
Diamond Monster3D 3Dfx Voodoo 4MB 640x480 26.7
looks good so far!
i wouldnt expect the voodoo2 to be as cheap as the current voodoo1 boards
are today. i'd say at least $500+ when released and falling slowly over the
following months.
jamie brook
Colin Young
On 5 Jan 1998 11:06:32 GMT, "oCtavian" <octa...@quakenz.co.nz> wrote:
>> >The Canopus Pure3d looks like the option for me.
>
>yup, pitty nobody sells them locally in nz...
>
>> >
>> >To ask the age old question... what's a good price? anyone got one 2nd
>> >hand:)
>
>i dont know how much a pure3d would cost you if you chose to ship one from
>the states... at least $300+
I bought mind starigh from Canopus for US$179 but the postage via
fedex was US$49! A couple of days before it shipped the NZD fell
against the USD making the purchase even more expensive. The card
ended up costing $396 delivered - similar to what it sells here I
think.