4 questions about Maxnet Jetstart ADSL
John Doe
I have the following questions about Maxnet :
1) Is their news server running reliably now ? Looks like it used to
be quite chaotic, didn't it ?
2) Does their news server give access to binary newsgroups ? If not,
is there a freely accessible NZ-based read-only server from which I
could read them ?
3) Does the web access go through a proxy ?
4) Is the dynamic IP directly accessible from the outside world - I
mean, is the IP given by the Maxnet connection behind NAT/firewall or
something else ? Sometimes I will definitely need direct access to my
computer from the internet. NAT is big no-no for me.
I am going to call Maxnet anyway but as usual users' opinions are
welcome...
Thanks for any information.
Nick
>Hi,
>
>I have the following questions about Maxnet :
>
>1) Is their news server running reliably now ? Looks like it used to
>be quite chaotic, didn't it ?
The news service is a joke. "Chaotic" is absolutely the right word
there. This was their reply when I asked them why their news service
is so crap:
"As we do not have a significant customer interest in our Newsgroup
service, we are currently unable to supply a dedicated News service.
We apologise for the inconvenience."
>I am going to call Maxnet anyway but as usual users' opinions are
>welcome...
>
>Thanks for any information.
When I joined Maxnet it said "unlimited" traffic but with considerable
amount of traffic shaping like for FTP, Kazaa etc. I thought fair
enough so I tried them out. Yes, the FTP and P2P TRULY SUCK! You might
as well go back to 56K if you do a lot of downloading, but I stick
with them for a few months cause I cannot think of any ISP willing to
give "unlimited" ADSL without traffic shaping. About 2 months after I
joined them, they change the account to 12GB download limit. I thought
fine, it's still 2GB more than what others would usually offer. But
one would think that with the limit in place the traffic shaping would
at least be loosen, not to mention there should be almost none.
Maxnet, with all the wisdom, decided to keep the same damn thing in
place and thus providing same crap connection for downloading.
Bugger them.
Mainlander
says...
> When I joined Maxnet it said "unlimited" traffic but with considerable
> amount of traffic shaping like for FTP, Kazaa etc. I thought fair
> enough so I tried them out. Yes, the FTP and P2P TRULY SUCK! You might
> as well go back to 56K if you do a lot of downloading, but I stick
> with them for a few months cause I cannot think of any ISP willing to
> give "unlimited" ADSL without traffic shaping. About 2 months after I
> joined them, they change the account to 12GB download limit. I thought
> fine, it's still 2GB more than what others would usually offer. But
> one would think that with the limit in place the traffic shaping would
> at least be loosen, not to mention there should be almost none.
> Maxnet, with all the wisdom, decided to keep the same damn thing in
> place and thus providing same crap connection for downloading.
Well actually as you say practically every ISP in NZ traffic shapes on
Jetstart(er) for the simple reason that upload bandwidth on this product
is restricted and has to be allocated fairly amongst all the users.
Nick
Umm... I'm talking about "download" traffic only. FTP or Kazaa with
Maxnet's Jetstart don't get more than 5kB/s 99.99% of the time. Most
of the time Kazaa will just sit there doing ~1kB/s. Pathetic.
Peter
> I have the following questions about Maxnet :
> 1) Is their news server running reliably now ? Looks like it used to
> be quite chaotic, didn't it ?
Yes, up to about April, it was quite unreliable. Since then it has been
very good. I use it most days.
The Jetstart scheme was unlimited MB, but they recently brought in a limit
of 12 GB/month on international traffic. Although I was a bit pissed off
at this, it hasn't been a problem at all. NZ traffic is unlimited. If you
need more than 12GB/month of international traffic, you need to look
elsewhere.
HTH
Peter
Peter
> Umm... I'm talking about "download" traffic only. FTP or Kazaa with
> Maxnet's Jetstart don't get more than 5kB/s 99.99% of the time. Most
> of the time Kazaa will just sit there doing ~1kB/s. Pathetic.
Yes, I think there is something in the T&Cs about limiting traffic for
people using P2P.
Looks like you need to move to another ISP.
Peter
Alastair Johnson
news:f425c3b9.03070...@posting.google.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have the following questions about Maxnet :
>
> 1) Is their news server running reliably now ? Looks like it used to
> be quite chaotic, didn't it ?
For the last 2 months I do believe this service has been running reliably.
There is further investment being made in it, due to a small but vocal
amount of users. We are also adding additional newspeers.
> 2) Does their news server give access to binary newsgroups ? If not,
> is there a freely accessible NZ-based read-only server from which I
> could read them ?
Yes, there is full access (well, limited by our newspeers can carry, etc.)
> 3) Does the web access go through a proxy ?
Yes, it does.
> 4) Is the dynamic IP directly accessible from the outside world - I
> mean, is the IP given by the Maxnet connection behind NAT/firewall or
> something else ? Sometimes I will definitely need direct access to my
> computer from the internet. NAT is big no-no for me.
Yes, the IP addresses are real, and are externally available.
Re some other comments about Jetstart and P2P - for the last few months we
have been weeding out the remainder of heavy users and securing additional
international capacity. In the next week we will be re-evaluating the
rate-limiting in place for P2P and FTP services, and gradually increasing
these as our new capacity comes on line.
While I am a Maxnet employee, I use Maxnet ADSL from home, shared amongst
myself, 2 flatmates, and my partner, and I find the performance to be
acceptable. Staff use the same service that customers do.
regards...
aj
(half wearing a Maxnet hat)
Nick
wrote:
Yes I have, right after they changed to 12GB limit AND still keep the
lid on FTP and P2P.
Nick
wrote:
>The Jetstart scheme was unlimited MB, but they recently brought in a limit
>of 12 GB/month on international traffic. Although I was a bit pissed off
>at this, it hasn't been a problem at all. NZ traffic is unlimited. If you
>need more than 12GB/month of international traffic, you need to look
>elsewhere.
Yes I was expecting (ever since I joined) a change to capped service
at some point, and 12GB is one of the best around. Let's face it,
unlimited traffic is simply not sustainable in the real world. I still
quit them simply because they woulnd't remove the lid on FTP and P2P
even with the traffic cap. Now compare to paradise or orcon at least,
that's crap. Oh, their account closure process is also worth noting
too, but enough have been said on this in one of the previous threads,
so I'll save my breath here (dig out from google if u like).
Matthew G Brown
Jetstart is the Achilles heal of most ISP's . Put it this way.
You go to Orcon or Telecom and buy Carrier grade bandwidth, its $200 per 64K
( Market average ) . So to give every JS customer 128K of international
bandwidth costs $400 + Gst , ISP gets $35 ... You do the Math .
Most ISP's operate a separate managed gateways for Jetstart customers. P2P
traffic is a killer. Kazza on port 80 requires some pretty cool hardware to
shape it down.
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Craig Whitmore
"Matthew G Brown" <Ma...@brh.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Seriously tho guys.
>
> Jetstart is the Achilles heal of most ISP's . Put it this way.
>
> You go to Orcon or Telecom and buy Carrier grade bandwidth, its $200 per
64K
> ( Market average ) . So to give every JS customer 128K of international
> bandwidth costs $400 + Gst , ISP gets $35 ... You do the Math .
>
> Most ISP's operate a separate managed gateways for Jetstart customers. P2P
> traffic is a killer. Kazza on port 80 requires some pretty cool hardware
to
> shape it down.
>
There is some layer7 QOS stuff out now (http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/)
which will do exactly that. I have not used it yet, but it looks promising.
Thanks
Craig
Peter
> "John Doe" <JohnD...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f425c3b9.03070...@posting.google.com...
>> Hi,
>> I have the following questions about Maxnet :
>> 1) Is their news server running reliably now ? Looks like it used to
>> be quite chaotic, didn't it ?
>
> For the last 2 months I do believe this service has been running reliably.
oops - spoke too soon
The Maxnet server went down about 2pm today (Saturday). The server now
(6pm) appears to be running, but is not updating any groups.
Peter :(
Alastair Johnson
news:3f0f...@news.maxnet.co.nz...
> > For the last 2 months I do believe this service has been running
reliably.
>
> oops - spoke too soon
> The Maxnet server went down about 2pm today (Saturday). The server now
> (6pm) appears to be running, but is not updating any groups.
It is, but the resync is done alphabetically, and alt.binaries.*, which
quite a few users seem to read, takes a few hours to sync up.
aj.
Peter
Yes, was running again Sat evening.
Ok, I didn't know about the alphabetical resync. I'm interested in
comp.os.linux.* and nz.* and soc.genealogy.* so these would be down the
list a bit.
cheers
Peter