Epson I think is playing Dirty Tricks..
Nigel
>
>
> This New Printer R310 uses different Ink Tanks, And ONLY USED IN OZZ &
> NZ..
>
>
> So no third party tanks or Refills it will seem.
You are going to get a recent photo ink jet printer & use 3rd party
tanks & refills ?????. I would not consider that smart, though if you
are really worried the EU are riding to your rescue soon.
>
> The US/UK Version R300 uses Different Ink Tanks..
Possible, though I doubt it's actually true.
>
> The US Ink is some $12us but here about $31nz
12US = 18NZD + 12.5%GST ( the US price did not include sales tax ) =
$21NZD, ascent have them for $32, seems steep I agree.
> So how come the Ink is so dear here..?
Freight would be a good start.
>
> Or is it they think we are used to being ripped off and now take it as
> normal..?
Chill out, if you are that worried buy the refills in the US, there is
not alot you can do in a country as small as NZ, I'd look at aussie
online places, but in the end it is a niche product in NZ, you will pay
more, it's economics so enjoy your new toy please & send us a link of a
nice photo instead of whining.
Nigel
P.S. I suspect you really want the R210 ( in aussie not here yet ), I'm
pretty sure it's the R300 US model.
colinco
says...
>
>
>
> This New Printer R310 uses different Ink Tanks, And ONLY USED IN OZZ &
> NZ..
>
>
> So no third party tanks or Refills it will seem.
>
Singapore and Hong Kong web pages so 3rd party ink seems almost certain.
Nigel
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:40:07 +1300, Nigel <sgidude_@_yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
>>Tick Tock wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>This New Printer R310 uses different Ink Tanks, And ONLY USED IN OZZ &
>>>NZ..
>>>
>>>
>>>So no third party tanks or Refills it will seem.
> Yes Confirmed from Epson yesterday.
>
> Also they have different Part Numbers for the ink tanks.
I wonder why they are different, very odd.
>
> So they get to the US for Free..? they still have to freight them to the US.
Come on, quantity does come into it, not to mention storage, combine
that with a new product & you are paying RRP in NZ or close, whereas in
the US it has been around for a bit.
>
>
> You can't this is my Point they are Chipped and use Different Chips than the
> one here, confirmed by Epson here, plus you can't refill a chipped cartridge.
I don't see the refill as an issue, the whole point of the R310 is the
pigment inks & the durability, why go to the expense if you won't use
the inks from Epson.
>
>
>
> The R210 is the low end bottom model of the UK R200 and is not listed here..
>
> Plus the R200/210 looks nothing like the R300/310.
You might want to verify that, there is nothing in the spec's I have
read that suggests a difference, same dpi, same cartridges, same nozzle
config, both are 3 picolitre ink droplets. Those sure look like the same
printers to me ( where it counts in how they print & what they print
onto ), it's not sold in NZ, so what import it from aussie, get a dealer
there who will let you ship back if there is a problem. The pdf's show
the R210 with a epson nz address anyway, so you are just jumping the gun.
I'm thinking canon, I'm pretty keen on A3 & to be honest Epson prices
for the 2100 here are diabolical ( not to mention S9000 prices 200USD vs
968 NZD ).
Nigel
colinco
> I don't see the refill as an issue, the whole point of the R310 is the
> pigment inks & the durability, why go to the expense if you won't use
> the inks from Epson.
>
Nigel
than that the R series is not a huge improvement on earlier epson
printers, is my understanding anyway.
Nigel
Nigel
> Its not possible as its a chipped Tank..
http://www.firstink.com.hk/LGE_Epson.htm
They are 3rd party cartridges ( with chips ), not sure how you get them
mind you :).
> They are NOT THE SAME Printer the R300/310 has lots of Buttons a LCD Display
> and a added LCD Monitor, the R200/210 does not have those things at all, Plus
> I have confirmed it from Epson..
Ok,
The R300 is the same as the R210 as far as I can tell, but a different body.
The R300M is the same as the R310.
Personally I didn't think the LCD added any value, but that is dependant
on your application.
Nigel
P.S. It's a shame they are 20yr inks.
colinco
says...
>
> They are NOT THE SAME Printer the R300/310 has lots of Buttons a LCD Display
> and a added LCD Monitor
>
optional extra - you've gone down that road before :-)
pete
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:21:14 +1300, Nigel <sgidude_@_yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>colinco wrote:
>>> In article <c3ad60$fla$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>, sgidude_@_yahoo.co.nz says...
>>>
>>>>I don't see the refill as an issue, the whole point of the R310 is the
>>>>pigment inks & the durability, why go to the expense if you won't use
>>>>the inks from Epson.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're missing the point that the R310 is still dye based.
>>Yes, but they are supposed to be incredibly long lasting ones
>
> Only 20 years the R800 is 100 Years.
How much longer do you think you're going to live anyway?
John
wrote:
>
>Don't you pass on photos to your family..?
>
Do you have family?
Nigel
> R300.
>
> THE R300M IS THE ONE WITH THE ADD COLOUR LCD MONITOR, BUT WITH THE R310 ITS
> A EXTRA OPTION.
>
> THE R200/210 IS NOT EVEN THE SAME PRINTER AT ALL FULL STOP.
>
> CONTACT EPSON IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME..
Go ahead pay the extra money for the card reader, I hope you use it.
But unless you can prove otherwise & nothing in the spec's I have read
say so they use exactly the same print technology, but the R310 has a
card reader ( ok the LCD is an optional extra, bloody misleading
advertising if you ask me ) & the R210 does not, oh a different body
blah blah.
If you don't believe me <grin> try this from asia.cnet.com
"Similitude
The Epson Stylus R210 looks pretty much like its fuller brother, the
R310. Apart from the missing LCD, card slots and control panel, you'll
be hard-pressed to find any other discernible differences. Still, while
the Stylus R310 is perfectly capable of running as a standalone, the
Stylus R210 needs to be tethered to a PC.
Delving deeper, you'll find that the innards of both printers are
identical, each touting similar print speed claims of 15.6 pages per
minute (ppm) for text and a timing of 39 seconds for 4R photos.
Likewise, both Epsons sport the same mechanism to allow users to print
straight onto blank CDs or DVDs. Using the included Epson Print CD
software, users can create a design easily, insert a blank CD or DVD
disc, and just click print.
"
So you can stop shouting now, yeah I got some bits wrong, but they are
the same print mechanism ( which for me is all that counts ), just the
R310 has some added bits & yes I accept it is not the R300M ok.
Nigel
Nigel
>
> But the R210 is not listed here or being sold..
>
> Pointless in even referring to it...
Your call, personally as I said earlier I would not worry about that &
buy it from Aussie. On the theory that as the pdf has NZ contact details
it will be released in NZ soon enough & before then the cartridges are
shared with the R310.
But hey it's your money to do with as you wish, it sounds a lovely
printer & I'm sure you'll love it.
Nigel
Craig Sutton
"Tick Tock" <t...@clock.com> wrote in message
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>
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> But the R210 is not listed here or being sold..
>
>
> Pointless in even referring to it...
>
Who cares you got the 310 yet Roger? bought one tonight works great
Craig Sutton
"Nigel" <sgidude_@_yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:c3ej6k$cfv$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
cable
Nigel
> does it..?
You tell me, the R310 has been out in aussie for 1.5 months, the R210 2
weeks, not long for them to release the R210 in NZ, the R310 was not
released until March in NZ.
My maths goes like this
NZD 462 approx for the R310, it's significant cash.
AUD 219 ( not sure if there is GST in there ) or NZD 246 for the R210
The diff is 200 bucks ( less freight ), it's your call, 462 get's you
local support, 246 get's you mail it back to aussie, but probably it
will be in NZ anyway ( check with Epson, if they'll tell you ).
It's your call, personally I'd go for the i9100 canon :).
Nigel
Nigel
How are the prints ?, it looks a nice printer, I got a C63 interim after
my C80 blew up, thinking I'd get a R800, but I dunno, the i9100 looks
awefully inviting :), damn photography it's a money hole.
Nigel
Craig Sutton
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:32:48 +1300, "Craig Sutton"
<suzXt...@ihug.co.nz>
>
Quality costs, actually my Mum bought it for the pc i bought for her at
Christmas
Craig Sutton
> Craig Sutton wrote:
> > "Tick Tock" <t...@clock.com> wrote in message
> > news:kc1l5012spd799itu...@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>But the R210 is not listed here or being sold..
> >>
> >>
> >>Pointless in even referring to it...
> >>
> >
> >
> > Who cares you got the 310 yet Roger? bought one tonight works great
> You're not telling me tick tock is roger ????.
>
> How are the prints ?, it looks a nice printer, I got a C63 interim after
> my C80 blew up, thinking I'd get a R800, but I dunno, the i9100 looks
> awefully inviting :), damn photography it's a money hole.
>
Only done one lot of prints one copy on plain paper the next on photo paper
to compare....came out great..
Nigel
<snip>
>
>>How are the prints ?, it looks a nice printer, I got a C63 interim after
>>my C80 blew up, thinking I'd get a R800, but I dunno, the i9100 looks
>>awefully inviting :), damn photography it's a money hole.
>>
>
> Only done one lot of prints one copy on plain paper the next on photo paper
> to compare....came out great..
Nigel
Nigel
<snip>
>
> Only the Epson does long life prints and the Print head does not ware out like
> Canon ones do.
Aye, but NZD$1200 is a helluva lot less that NZD$2400 ( i9100 vs epson
2100/2200 ), Epson at the mid-top end are price gouging something fearful.
Besides Canon i9100 is 20-25 year, the same as the R310/R210, it's only
the R800/2100/2000P/C63/C8[0-3] that are 80+ years ( I thought the R310
was, thanks for pointing out it wasn't ) & it's not that expensive to
replace the head, which at least you can do.
>
>
> The R800 is not sold in this part of the world..
For the last time, I don't care. As long as the power module works in
NZ, I would be happy to import it. But it's only A4, so dubiously worth
the effort.
Nigel
P.S. Yes I do have a reasonable amount of kit not NZ sourced.
Craig Sutton
Nigel
The same place I got the printer, get it in advance, it would be a bit
more expensive, but not hard to get.
In reality the best option would be the Warehouse getting real fancy
Fuji printers like WalMart in the US, you can print real cheap over
there & you actually have to print alot to justify a > $300 printer,
certainly my first C80 never justified it's price.
Yeah I know there are cool online places, but it is cheaper to submit
via the net & pickup in person & freight adds up fast, not to mention
takes time.
Nigel
Nigel
>
>
> Nigel
>
>
> Here is what I got back today..
>
> The EPSON Stylus Photo R210 is expected to arrive in New Zealand within the
> next few weeks.
>
> Kind regards
> Anjna Patel
> EPSON NZ Ltd
Sweet, that makes sense & should be a saving of about $150, maybe more,
if you go that way over the R310 ( though the R310 has the coolness
factor of printing off your friends CF cards :) )
Nigel
Nigel
> I bought a cheap card reader from DSE about $60, may be that is a
> option..?
>
> http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/405ec40d07aa0d04273fc0a87f990685/Product/View/XG1377
>
>
> Now on special..
The card reader is there only if you are not attaching the Printer to a
computer.
I've got a portable hard drive for my digital camera so never
use a card reader, but they are definitely the way to go instead of
attaching your camera to the computer directly.
Nigel
Mouse Anony
> I got one tonight 1st one sold in Nelson, they even threw in a free USB
> cable
Is the printer USB2 and does your computer have a USB2 port (or are
you willing to get a USB2 card)? If not, stick with parallel for now.
Patrick Dunford
<ho1m505cn8567m5fj...@4ax.com>, Tick Tock <t...@clock.com>
didst uttereth...
> Only the Epson does long life prints and the Print head does not ware out like
> Canon ones do.
Latest canons have permanent heads
colinco
patrick...@nz.invalid says...
> Latest canons have permanent heads
>
Patrick Dunford
<MPG.1acadb86c...@news.xtra.co.nz>, colinco
<colin...@yawhoo.com> didst uttereth...
As in don't need to be replaced. In many cases it can be replaced by the
user
Canon S200SPx
Canon i550
Canon S530D
as examples