Phase 1 Week 8 (The Outward Disciplines) SIMPLICITY
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Feb 28, 2012, 12:51:41 PM2/28/12
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Comment on the statement:
1. Simplicity is freedom. Duplicity is bondage. Simplicity brings joy
and balance. Duplicity brings anxiety and fear.
2. Simplicity knows contentment in both abasement and abounding (Phil.
4:12). Simplicity is the only thing that sufficiently reorients our
lives so that possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying
us.
3. Do you agree or disagree with any of Richard Foster’s ten
controlling principles for the outward expression of simplicity.
1. Simplicity is freedom. Duplicity is bondage. Simplicity brings joy
and balance. Duplicity brings anxiety and fear.
2. Simplicity knows contentment in both abasement and abounding (Phil.
4:12). Simplicity is the only thing that sufficiently reorients our
lives so that possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying
us.
3. Do you agree or disagree with any of Richard Foster’s ten
controlling principles for the outward expression of simplicity.
michael desire
Feb 28, 2012, 4:47:51 PM2/28/12
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i agree with the statement,
simplicity is freedom ,the apostle paul declares,count it all joy ,in diverse situations we should know how to abase and abounding.
duplicity is bondage, it causes a snare,wickedness,and fear on every side.
may God reachly bless you,keep up the good work.
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On Feb 28, 4:47 pm, michael desire <mchldes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i agree with the statement,
> simplicity is freedom ,the apostle paul declares,count it all joy ,in diverse situations we should know how to abase and abounding.
> duplicity is bondage, it causes a snare,wickedness,and fear on every side.
> may God reachly bless you,keep up the good work.
>
On Feb 28, 4:47 pm, michael desire <mchldes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i agree with the statement,
> simplicity is freedom ,the apostle paul declares,count it all joy ,in diverse situations we should know how to abase and abounding.
> duplicity is bondage, it causes a snare,wickedness,and fear on every side.
> may God reachly bless you,keep up the good work.
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:51 PM
> Subject: Phase 1 Week 8 (The Outward Disciplines) SIMPLICITY
>
> Comment on the statement:
>
> 1. Simplicity is freedom. Duplicity is bondage. Simplicity brings joy
> and balance. Duplicity brings anxiety and fear.
>
> 2. Simplicity knows contentment in both abasement and abounding (Phil.
> 4:12). Simplicity is the only thing that sufficiently reorients our
> lives so that possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying
> us.
>
> 3. Do you agree or disagree with any of Richard Foster’s ten
> controlling principles for the outward expression of simplicity.
>
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> Comment on the statement:
>
> 1. Simplicity is freedom. Duplicity is bondage. Simplicity brings joy
> and balance. Duplicity brings anxiety and fear.
>
> 2. Simplicity knows contentment in both abasement and abounding (Phil.
> 4:12). Simplicity is the only thing that sufficiently reorients our
> lives so that possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying
> us.
>
> 3. Do you agree or disagree with any of Richard Foster’s ten
> controlling principles for the outward expression of simplicity.
>
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Simplicity is freedom. It is the freedom of giving up or letting go of
the temporal things of this world, and seeking first the kingdom of
God. Simplicity is totally submitting our lives to God and allowing
him to lead our lives every moment of the day. If we seek God first
then he will chose what He wishes to finger loose from our lives and
we know God knows what’s best for us. Jesus told the rich man to sell
all he has and give to the poor. He knew the rich man’s heart was
where his earthly possessions were but Jesus wanted the rich man to
put Him first and trust him to supply his needs. When we begin to seek
God everything necessary will come in proper order.
Simplicity is, knowing God. We will only be free through knowing Him.
John 8: 32 states “and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set
you free. When God has total control of our lives we are not
controlled by the things this world. The things of this world are
only temporal but as servants of God we should crave for eternal
treasures. We become a slave to the things of this world because that
controls us. Romans 8:5 tell us “they that are after the flesh do mind
the things of the flesh but they are after the spirit the things of
the spirit.” When we fail to let go and let God we lose out on gaining
the necessary experience through knowledge to know He is sufficient.
If we do not have first hand knowledge then our trust and confidence
in Him is weak and if it is weak we are not willing to be his
apprentice.
One of the greatest weapons of anxiety is joy. There is joy and peace
in knowing that “the earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof the
world and they that dwell therein.” Simplicity builds our trust in
God knowing that even though we can’t see the way we are willing to
follow wherever he leads. The focus upon the Kingdom produces the
inward reality and without that our life results in an endless cycle
of duplicitous legalism.
Duplicity is bondage. Because of the lack of a Devine center our need
for security has led us into an insane attachment to things. Our
consumer culture with its persuasive power of advertising is designed
to make us always want something more or different. These are things
that will only last for a time and that will only satisfy our fleshy
desires. The word of God tells us not to be conformed to this world
but that we should be transformed by the renewing of our minds. When
we chose to live a life of duplicity, we wake in the mornings with
anxiety and go to bed at nights in fear always worrying about
tomorrow. Not believing that, “Our God shall supply all our need
according to His riches in glory.” Duplicity is the inner spirit of
slavery which is bondage and Jesus again told us that his yolk is easy
and His burden is light. It cultivates an idolatrous attachment to
wealth and the inner lust to have, which will lead to stealing,
depression and oppression.
God has no problem with us living wealthy. He intends that we have
adequate material provision while we occupy this earth. Paul learned
to be contented through his experiences and situations while on his
Christian journey. He chose to seek first the kingdom of God and
along came the experiences. When we allow God to give us whatever He
would want us to have, we find contentment wherever we may be.
Contentment does not depend on the abundance of things we have, it is
learning to depend on God and to know the value of Christ. Paul knew
what it was to have little and what was to have plenty and in all
circumstances his love and commitment for Christ did not change. When
we know that we are love by God and that He controls our entire life
we can simply be ourselves and be satisfied with whatever comes to us,
whether it be gain or loss. We are destroyed when our thoughts, plans
and ambitions are centered around money, material or temporal things
and not on God. It is said that a contented person watches the world
closely, but does not stare it down. She enjoys things rather than
trying to own or possess them. So let us seek fist the kingdom of God
and His righteousness that when wealth, fame and others are added we
will genuinely enjoy without them destroying us.
I agree with almost all of Fosters ten controlling principles. I
believe and am practicing to buy things for its usefulness rather than
its status and strongly believe that as children of God we should
reject anything that has an addiction on us. I am learning to
appreciate and enjoy the park and not thinking that I need a big back
yard where I can play with my family instead of going to the park.
However, I do not believe that buying the cheapest furniture and
clothing are always a good choice. From my experience the cheapest
furniture and clothing are made from an inferior quality material and
are easily destroyed or worn out. And yes, we should shun anything
and everything that distracts us from seeking first the kingdom of
God. I crave for a deeper and a simpler life in God. God bless You
all.
the temporal things of this world, and seeking first the kingdom of
God. Simplicity is totally submitting our lives to God and allowing
him to lead our lives every moment of the day. If we seek God first
then he will chose what He wishes to finger loose from our lives and
we know God knows what’s best for us. Jesus told the rich man to sell
all he has and give to the poor. He knew the rich man’s heart was
where his earthly possessions were but Jesus wanted the rich man to
put Him first and trust him to supply his needs. When we begin to seek
God everything necessary will come in proper order.
Simplicity is, knowing God. We will only be free through knowing Him.
John 8: 32 states “and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set
you free. When God has total control of our lives we are not
controlled by the things this world. The things of this world are
only temporal but as servants of God we should crave for eternal
treasures. We become a slave to the things of this world because that
controls us. Romans 8:5 tell us “they that are after the flesh do mind
the things of the flesh but they are after the spirit the things of
the spirit.” When we fail to let go and let God we lose out on gaining
the necessary experience through knowledge to know He is sufficient.
If we do not have first hand knowledge then our trust and confidence
in Him is weak and if it is weak we are not willing to be his
apprentice.
One of the greatest weapons of anxiety is joy. There is joy and peace
in knowing that “the earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof the
world and they that dwell therein.” Simplicity builds our trust in
God knowing that even though we can’t see the way we are willing to
follow wherever he leads. The focus upon the Kingdom produces the
inward reality and without that our life results in an endless cycle
of duplicitous legalism.
Duplicity is bondage. Because of the lack of a Devine center our need
for security has led us into an insane attachment to things. Our
consumer culture with its persuasive power of advertising is designed
to make us always want something more or different. These are things
that will only last for a time and that will only satisfy our fleshy
desires. The word of God tells us not to be conformed to this world
but that we should be transformed by the renewing of our minds. When
we chose to live a life of duplicity, we wake in the mornings with
anxiety and go to bed at nights in fear always worrying about
tomorrow. Not believing that, “Our God shall supply all our need
according to His riches in glory.” Duplicity is the inner spirit of
slavery which is bondage and Jesus again told us that his yolk is easy
and His burden is light. It cultivates an idolatrous attachment to
wealth and the inner lust to have, which will lead to stealing,
depression and oppression.
God has no problem with us living wealthy. He intends that we have
adequate material provision while we occupy this earth. Paul learned
to be contented through his experiences and situations while on his
Christian journey. He chose to seek first the kingdom of God and
along came the experiences. When we allow God to give us whatever He
would want us to have, we find contentment wherever we may be.
Contentment does not depend on the abundance of things we have, it is
learning to depend on God and to know the value of Christ. Paul knew
what it was to have little and what was to have plenty and in all
circumstances his love and commitment for Christ did not change. When
we know that we are love by God and that He controls our entire life
we can simply be ourselves and be satisfied with whatever comes to us,
whether it be gain or loss. We are destroyed when our thoughts, plans
and ambitions are centered around money, material or temporal things
and not on God. It is said that a contented person watches the world
closely, but does not stare it down. She enjoys things rather than
trying to own or possess them. So let us seek fist the kingdom of God
and His righteousness that when wealth, fame and others are added we
will genuinely enjoy without them destroying us.
I agree with almost all of Fosters ten controlling principles. I
believe and am practicing to buy things for its usefulness rather than
its status and strongly believe that as children of God we should
reject anything that has an addiction on us. I am learning to
appreciate and enjoy the park and not thinking that I need a big back
yard where I can play with my family instead of going to the park.
However, I do not believe that buying the cheapest furniture and
clothing are always a good choice. From my experience the cheapest
furniture and clothing are made from an inferior quality material and
are easily destroyed or worn out. And yes, we should shun anything
and everything that distracts us from seeking first the kingdom of
God. I crave for a deeper and a simpler life in God. God bless You
all.
> i agree with the statement,
> simplicity is freedom ,the apostle paul declares,count it all joy ,in diverse situations we should know how to abase and abounding.
> duplicity is bondage, it causes a snare,wickedness,and fear on every side.
> may God reachly bless you,keep up the good work.
>
> simplicity is freedom ,the apostle paul declares,count it all joy ,in diverse situations we should know how to abase and abounding.
> duplicity is bondage, it causes a snare,wickedness,and fear on every side.
> may God reachly bless you,keep up the good work.
>
> From: New York Youth Leaders Association <youthleaderstr...@gmail.com>
> To: NYYLA <ny...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:51 PM
> Subject: Phase 1 Week 8 (The Outward Disciplines) SIMPLICITY
>
> Comment on the statement:
>
> 1. Simplicity is freedom. Duplicity is bondage. Simplicity brings joy
> and balance. Duplicity brings anxiety and fear.
>
> 2. Simplicity knows contentment in both abasement and abounding (Phil.
> 4:12). Simplicity is the only thing that sufficiently reorients our
> lives so that possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying
> us.
>
> 3. Do you agree or disagree with any of Richard Foster’s ten
> controlling principles for the outward expression of simplicity.
>
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> Subject: Phase 1 Week 8 (The Outward Disciplines) SIMPLICITY
>
> Comment on the statement:
>
> 1. Simplicity is freedom. Duplicity is bondage. Simplicity brings joy
> and balance. Duplicity brings anxiety and fear.
>
> 2. Simplicity knows contentment in both abasement and abounding (Phil.
> 4:12). Simplicity is the only thing that sufficiently reorients our
> lives so that possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying
> us.
>
> 3. Do you agree or disagree with any of Richard Foster’s ten
> controlling principles for the outward expression of simplicity.
>
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Simplicity is freedom that brings joy and balance to an
otherwise chaotic life. It keeps us grounded so our lives will forever
be under God’s microscope, where we will keep things in perspective
knowing priority from junk. This means we will travel light, baggage
free, worry free, weight-less , with the ability to make conscious,
godly choices. The discipline of simplicity gives us the freedom to
enjoy material things without being addicted to them, also allowing us
to share our resources generously without the fear that we‘ll end up
with nothing. Our heart and mind focused on God and His righteousness
prevents us from being conformed to the things of this world. We can
be surrounded by material things daily, yet not be swayed by them as
we are “blinded to all other loyalties by the splendor of God.”
Simplicity brings joy that produces an energy that makes us strong and
bonds us with fellow believers., so we can enjoy a full and abundant
life in Christ.
Duplicity is bondage and brings anxiety and fear that clouds our
judgment, causing us to make one poor choice after another. It comes
with a double-mindedness and artificiality that prevents us from
having honest interaction with each other. There’s always the need to
“cover up” as the ever present worry is at the back of our minds,
reminding us that our true colors will shine through. To prevent being
found out, a continuous cycle of telling one lie to cover the other
becomes the norm. Unnecessary and self-induced stress is created by
the irresponsible use of resources and as the author states, “buying
things we can’t afford to impress people we do not even like.”
Hoarding and selfishness are also along this self-destructive path.
There is the thought that there’s never enough, so unholy alliances
are formed with inanimate objects made by hands, which will never
satisfy. Hidden agendas, manipulation, covetousness, causes people to
‘sell each other out’ to establish their ‘future’, having material
things and being possessed by them. Lack of trust in God causes
speculation on how their future will unfold instead of concentrating
on living in obedience to Him. After amputating the spirit and
executing the soul, what’s left is “as chaff before the wind”, not
having the ability to enjoy the fullness of God as their glass is
always half empty.
Simplicity and it’s accompanying freedom affords us the spirit of
celebration that permeates our entire being and is manifested in
everything we do.(1)We will be “anxious for nothing” as we’ve “cast
our cares upon Him.” (2)We will (as previously stated) enjoy our
possessions without being possessed by them. (3)We will have His peace
that will guard our hearts and minds because we know our manna and
quail God will see us through when we have not, and guide us to share
freely when we do have. It will be a great day when we can say like
Job “the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, blessed be the name of
the Lord.”
I’ve repeatedly read the points laid out by Mr. Foster and I
agree with him wholeheartedly. While they are not rules but merely
guidelines, they can be perfectly aligned with the Word of God and if
we take them to heart, we’ll definitely make the necessary changes to
grow spiritually. The more clutter-free we get, (both physically and
mentally) the easier it will become to surrender our body, mind and
spirit to God’s purpose. Keep sober, remain on task and always
remember,the Kingdom of God and His righteousness should be of
paramount importance. God bless you all and continue to enjoy the
freedom He provides for us His children.
On Feb 28, 12:51 pm, New York Youth Leaders Association
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1. I looked up the word duplicity and it means "deceitfulness, double-
dealing, or doubleness of thought, speech or actions; the belying of
one's true intentions by deceptive words or action". Functioning under
the power of duplicity will indeed foster anxious toils and fear. But
if you follow and enjoy the power of simplicity then you will live a
balance life full of joy and void of anxiety. I agree that duplicity
is bondage, it is like weaving a web of lies with deceit. The old tale
of a little child who produces a little lie and then when questioned
had to produce another lie to cover the initial lie is appropriate
when explaining the author's comment that: Duplicity is bondage.
2. It's sad to say but a lot of people's possessions have destroyed
them and the author is correct in saying just because you have less
does not mean you are living in simplicity. The key word here is
balance. Apostle Paul in Phil. 4:12 (NLT) says, "I know how to live on
almost nothing or with everything. I have learned the secret of living
in every situation, whether it is a full stomach or empty, with plenty
or little". I believe the secret he was talking about was simplicity
and fully trusting that God will provide and God is still God and
still good in all situations.
Again the key word here is; balance of enjoying things but never
allowing things to have a stronghold on you.
3. Lastly, all the ten principles that the author expressed are things
that I believe we all can benefit from. At the turn of the year as I
was beginning to hear more and more from God about where He wants to
take me. I realized that even my clothes, my 'style' and the way I
dressed would have to change to match my purpose (Match is not the
word I want to use but I can't think of the right word). He was
showing me that I have to be comfortable in my clothing. As women, it
is an unspoken rule that "all women wear heels" and all heels are not
comfortable. It's kind of like dressing up in a fancy suit and tie to
go work in a construction site. It just doesn't fit. My purpose
requires that I am most comfortable in my clothing, to move about
without fear of my feet hurting or getting stains on my clothes. So
when reading the first principles of outward expression of simplicity
about buying clothes that are practical and not ornamental it struck a
chord again for me that God was indeed speaking to me. On the other
hand, as I look at God's wonder, nature and creativity, I see that God
loves variety and He has given people some incredible talents in
seeing, designing and creating clothes. I enjoy fashion. To me it is
like an art when I see a dress, or shoes, or accessories and am able
to use creativity to create a look.
On Feb 28, 9:51 am, New York Youth Leaders Association
dealing, or doubleness of thought, speech or actions; the belying of
one's true intentions by deceptive words or action". Functioning under
the power of duplicity will indeed foster anxious toils and fear. But
if you follow and enjoy the power of simplicity then you will live a
balance life full of joy and void of anxiety. I agree that duplicity
is bondage, it is like weaving a web of lies with deceit. The old tale
of a little child who produces a little lie and then when questioned
had to produce another lie to cover the initial lie is appropriate
when explaining the author's comment that: Duplicity is bondage.
2. It's sad to say but a lot of people's possessions have destroyed
them and the author is correct in saying just because you have less
does not mean you are living in simplicity. The key word here is
balance. Apostle Paul in Phil. 4:12 (NLT) says, "I know how to live on
almost nothing or with everything. I have learned the secret of living
in every situation, whether it is a full stomach or empty, with plenty
or little". I believe the secret he was talking about was simplicity
and fully trusting that God will provide and God is still God and
still good in all situations.
Again the key word here is; balance of enjoying things but never
allowing things to have a stronghold on you.
3. Lastly, all the ten principles that the author expressed are things
that I believe we all can benefit from. At the turn of the year as I
was beginning to hear more and more from God about where He wants to
take me. I realized that even my clothes, my 'style' and the way I
dressed would have to change to match my purpose (Match is not the
word I want to use but I can't think of the right word). He was
showing me that I have to be comfortable in my clothing. As women, it
is an unspoken rule that "all women wear heels" and all heels are not
comfortable. It's kind of like dressing up in a fancy suit and tie to
go work in a construction site. It just doesn't fit. My purpose
requires that I am most comfortable in my clothing, to move about
without fear of my feet hurting or getting stains on my clothes. So
when reading the first principles of outward expression of simplicity
about buying clothes that are practical and not ornamental it struck a
chord again for me that God was indeed speaking to me. On the other
hand, as I look at God's wonder, nature and creativity, I see that God
loves variety and He has given people some incredible talents in
seeing, designing and creating clothes. I enjoy fashion. To me it is
like an art when I see a dress, or shoes, or accessories and am able
to use creativity to create a look.
On Feb 28, 9:51 am, New York Youth Leaders Association
michael desire
Mar 3, 2012, 5:53:22 PM3/3/12
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i do agree with richard foster's ten controlling principles for the outward expression of simplicity.
1) the Author uses, francois fenelon 's statement.. when we are truly in this interior simplicity our whole appearence is franker,makes us conscious of a certain openness,gentleness,innocense,gaiety,and serenity,i do agree,because when you can see all that with a pure eyes and continually,this is true simplicity,it's amiable and charming.
2)Simplicty is freedom.Duplicity is bondage.
a) again ,i agree, because the Author uses ,the book of (eccle,7:30) God made man simple.and often time we deceived ourselves if we believe we can possess the inward reality with out having a profound effect on how we live.
b) meanings... Simplicity begins in inward focus and unity, also calls a Divine center by Author kelly thomas.
2) Duplicity: if i may answer;
a) yes i agree,once again.by understanding the Author Richard foster's ten contolling priciples on outward simplicity. .Duplicity causes a lack of Divine center,it led us into an insane attachment to things,and also cause us to trapped in to amaze competing attachments.such as:buying things we do not want to impress people we do not like, craving things we do not need ,nor enjoy,these psychotic actions cause us to lose complete touch with reality.
b) as a result,we can use few bible verses,ps,62:10, prov,11: 28,and luke 16:13, we can not serve two masters. we need to get rid of every thing that is not of the fruit of the Spirit..
c) One author in the text, by the name of Kierke-gaard,wrote, in the profound of his book Title:
The nucleus of Christian simplicity:
"Purity of heart is to will one thing.
3) i agree,simplicity knows contentement in both to abasement and abounding. Richard foster use in his text: Jesus declares war in materialism of his day, and Richard suggest that Jesus also declares war on the materialism of our day as well". abase and abound," i can agree, when Richard foster uses the text, when Jesus exhorted the young ruler to detach from his possessions if he wanted the Kingdom of God.
Simplicity sets us free to receive the provisions of God as a Gift that is not ours to keep,and can be freely shares with others.
to abound we can use ,deut,8:7, to abase we can use aposle paul statement:" count it all joy, thru diverse tribulations.
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1. According to Thomas Kelly, Simplicity is to live out of what is
called the "Divine Center." It moves us from showy extravagance to a
more inwardly focus center bringing about unity with our inner and
outer reality. You are not cumbered with the need to please or to
have. Life becomes more grounded and balance. You are better able to
see the beauty of life while find joy and contentment within.
2. As Mr. Foster noted, Simplicity liberates us outwardly and set us
free to receive the provisions of God as a gift that is not ours to
keep but it is to be shared with others. I believe when the
principles of Christ becomes more important than our desires and
needs, simplicity will become our normal way of living. We are no
longer driven by the need to have the best... For when we start to
ackowledge what we have as a gift from God, we will accept our state
more readily finding contentment and peace about our surrounding.
This principle is supported in the words Paul penned in Philippians 4:
12-13 when he said ...."I don't have a sense of needing anything
personally. I've learned by now to be quite content whatever my
circumstances. I'm just as happy with little as with much, with much
as with little. I've found the recipe for being happy whether full or
hungry, hands full or hands empty. Whatever I have, wherever I am, I
can make it through anything in the One who makes me who I am."
Again, I close with the thought that Simplicity will cause us to enjoy
God provision - however small or large.
3.I agree with these ten principles of Mr. Foster noted as outward
expression of simplicity:
1. Buying things for their usefulness than for their status
2. Rejecting anything that produce an addiction in you
3. Develop the habit of giving things away
4. Refused to be propagandized by the custodian of modern gadgetry
5. Learn to enjoy things without owning them.
6. Develop an deeper appreciation for creation
7. Look with a healthy skepticism at all buy now, pay later schemes.
8. Obey Jesus instruction about a plain, honest speech.
9. Reject anything that breeds the oppression of others
10. Shun anything that distracts you from seeking.
Although he reminded us that this list is not to be used in a
legalistic manner, I believe it sums up some of the outward behaviors
that shows how we are really honing in on this principle. Mind you,
they are not something that you can list in a book and check off if
you did them today. Rather, it's just the way of being.
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called the "Divine Center." It moves us from showy extravagance to a
more inwardly focus center bringing about unity with our inner and
outer reality. You are not cumbered with the need to please or to
have. Life becomes more grounded and balance. You are better able to
see the beauty of life while find joy and contentment within.
2. As Mr. Foster noted, Simplicity liberates us outwardly and set us
free to receive the provisions of God as a gift that is not ours to
keep but it is to be shared with others. I believe when the
principles of Christ becomes more important than our desires and
needs, simplicity will become our normal way of living. We are no
longer driven by the need to have the best... For when we start to
ackowledge what we have as a gift from God, we will accept our state
more readily finding contentment and peace about our surrounding.
This principle is supported in the words Paul penned in Philippians 4:
12-13 when he said ...."I don't have a sense of needing anything
personally. I've learned by now to be quite content whatever my
circumstances. I'm just as happy with little as with much, with much
as with little. I've found the recipe for being happy whether full or
hungry, hands full or hands empty. Whatever I have, wherever I am, I
can make it through anything in the One who makes me who I am."
Again, I close with the thought that Simplicity will cause us to enjoy
God provision - however small or large.
3.I agree with these ten principles of Mr. Foster noted as outward
expression of simplicity:
1. Buying things for their usefulness than for their status
2. Rejecting anything that produce an addiction in you
3. Develop the habit of giving things away
4. Refused to be propagandized by the custodian of modern gadgetry
5. Learn to enjoy things without owning them.
6. Develop an deeper appreciation for creation
7. Look with a healthy skepticism at all buy now, pay later schemes.
8. Obey Jesus instruction about a plain, honest speech.
9. Reject anything that breeds the oppression of others
10. Shun anything that distracts you from seeking.
Although he reminded us that this list is not to be used in a
legalistic manner, I believe it sums up some of the outward behaviors
that shows how we are really honing in on this principle. Mind you,
they are not something that you can list in a book and check off if
you did them today. Rather, it's just the way of being.
On Feb 28, 12:51 pm, New York Youth Leaders Association
lol
Mar 3, 2012, 8:37:31 PM3/3/12
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Two thumbs up to you,I really like your spirit. It is the norm for
women to wear fancy heels even if it means we have to take them off
and go barefooted. Not practical, but as we grow from strength to
strength, we will eliminate the "baggage" from our lives and do what's
really us,as opposed to what will impress others most. Our Sovereign
God and variety in the same sentence..yes..just look around at the
birds, the trees in springtime, the flowers..His grand design.We will
all come out of this course knowing more and feeling better than when
we started.(P.S..don't be too concerned with the choice of words. Last
time I checked this is neither spelling bee or grammar course.)Just
keep thinking good thoughts as you build your strength in the Lord.
God bless you.
women to wear fancy heels even if it means we have to take them off
and go barefooted. Not practical, but as we grow from strength to
strength, we will eliminate the "baggage" from our lives and do what's
really us,as opposed to what will impress others most. Our Sovereign
God and variety in the same sentence..yes..just look around at the
birds, the trees in springtime, the flowers..His grand design.We will
all come out of this course knowing more and feeling better than when
we started.(P.S..don't be too concerned with the choice of words. Last
time I checked this is neither spelling bee or grammar course.)Just
keep thinking good thoughts as you build your strength in the Lord.
God bless you.
Pat Blackwood
Mar 3, 2012, 9:35:20 PM3/3/12
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1.Freedom vs Bondage, Joy vs Anxiety, Balance vs Fear...Freedom, Joy,
and Balance, outweighs
bondage, anxiety, and fear through our Discipline of Simplicity.
Simplicity is exciting, freeing, and essential for our daily living
with intention.
Amidst all the clutter, beyond all the obstacles, aside from all the
static, and hinderances, there
is simplicity with balance.
2. '..Possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying us..' if
we focus on things that are most
important, and disregard or avoid things that are of competing,
complex, least important,
and being satisfied with what we need, rather than what we want. The
balance domain, however
must be a part of our chosen assignment in Christ, as we include
others globally and share our wealth with them.
Christians are rich people, trust me...no christian in America is
poor, so let us share what we have, seek out the
less fortunate globally and share, we cannot sent the shoes, suits,
dresses, and stuff we have so we have to just
be delibrate and focus, skip 'black friday shopping,' and the sale,
and give to Mission instead so the love of God
can be in the form of feeding the poor, and not just talking. I am
talking to me also, I am trying....so help me God!
3.I agree with the ten principles...(I love the newspaper story, lol)I
will us that to identify my addictions
and go cold turkey! However, for me I believe I can go cold turkey on
addictions, and be balanced in my daily
choices as I share my stuff, my time, and my money with others as we
'...enjoy the goodness of the Lord in the
land of the living,' and live to advanced God's Kingdom upon he earth.
Our Father is rich, we are princes, and
princesses, heaven is decked out, the book of Revelation told us...all
we have to do is be wise, have compassion,
and be obedient to the 'give' command in God's word for the outward
expression of simplicity.
Thanks.
On Feb 28, 12:51 pm, New York Youth Leaders Association
and Balance, outweighs
bondage, anxiety, and fear through our Discipline of Simplicity.
Simplicity is exciting, freeing, and essential for our daily living
with intention.
Amidst all the clutter, beyond all the obstacles, aside from all the
static, and hinderances, there
is simplicity with balance.
2. '..Possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying us..' if
we focus on things that are most
important, and disregard or avoid things that are of competing,
complex, least important,
and being satisfied with what we need, rather than what we want. The
balance domain, however
must be a part of our chosen assignment in Christ, as we include
others globally and share our wealth with them.
Christians are rich people, trust me...no christian in America is
poor, so let us share what we have, seek out the
less fortunate globally and share, we cannot sent the shoes, suits,
dresses, and stuff we have so we have to just
be delibrate and focus, skip 'black friday shopping,' and the sale,
and give to Mission instead so the love of God
can be in the form of feeding the poor, and not just talking. I am
talking to me also, I am trying....so help me God!
3.I agree with the ten principles...(I love the newspaper story, lol)I
will us that to identify my addictions
and go cold turkey! However, for me I believe I can go cold turkey on
addictions, and be balanced in my daily
choices as I share my stuff, my time, and my money with others as we
'...enjoy the goodness of the Lord in the
land of the living,' and live to advanced God's Kingdom upon he earth.
Our Father is rich, we are princes, and
princesses, heaven is decked out, the book of Revelation told us...all
we have to do is be wise, have compassion,
and be obedient to the 'give' command in God's word for the outward
expression of simplicity.
Thanks.
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Pat Blackwood
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Well said, grace and peace to you!
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Pat Blackwood
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Awesome insights, we are grateful to our God, and when we are not able
to enjoy
these stuffs...we will be ok also, as Paul said in Phillipians.
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to enjoy
these stuffs...we will be ok also, as Paul said in Phillipians.
PATRICIA R. BLACKWOOD
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Ava,
Great response, I am lifted up by your post, as usual.
God bless your Ministry!
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Ava
Mar 3, 2012, 9:55:59 PM3/3/12
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Great post Michca,
I'm glad simplicity roots for us to be wise with our money.. I
support you 100 percent with the idea that about cheap furniture and
cheap clothing. In writing about this matter the author implied that
we should look into our money matters with keen eyes... Further, he
states that we should buy out of need or on the ground of principle
and to wear clothes that are lasting (or until they are worn).
Simplicity does move us away from showy extravagance but moves us into
a wiser and modest way of living. Be bless
michca...@yahoo.com
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Well said Ava. if the principles of Christ is our goal, then our steps
will be
ordered by Him, therefore there will have not time to focus on the
this of this world
which so easily beset us. God bless you.
will be
ordered by Him, therefore there will have not time to focus on the
this of this world
which so easily beset us. God bless you.
michca...@yahoo.com
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Hi Pat, I too agree in sharing what God has blesssed us with, with
others.
The more we bless others is the more we are blessed no mainly
materally but spiritually.
I look forward to seeing you at Junior Talent.
others.
The more we bless others is the more we are blessed no mainly
materally but spiritually.
I look forward to seeing you at Junior Talent.
Darell
Mar 5, 2012, 1:21:38 AM3/5/12
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Simplicity is definitely freedom, being comfortable with who we are
and what we have, living within our means, not trying to satisfy ego
or evil desires which is idolatry but submitting our needs to our
Heavenly Father creator God who is able to supply all of our needs
according to his riches and glory, for He is the Good Shepherd.
Resting in God's care and love brings joy and a balance life, but
duplicity is enslavement by the lust of the eyes and the pride of
life, being deceived into think material things can bring happiness
which is quite the contrary. It only bring dissatisfaction, headaches
and unfulfilled needs.
Yes, I do agree with the ten controlling principles for the outward
expression of simplicity, I pray that God help us practice them to His
Glory so that our lives may be fulfilled.
and what we have, living within our means, not trying to satisfy ego
or evil desires which is idolatry but submitting our needs to our
Heavenly Father creator God who is able to supply all of our needs
according to his riches and glory, for He is the Good Shepherd.
Resting in God's care and love brings joy and a balance life, but
duplicity is enslavement by the lust of the eyes and the pride of
life, being deceived into think material things can bring happiness
which is quite the contrary. It only bring dissatisfaction, headaches
and unfulfilled needs.
Yes, I do agree with the ten controlling principles for the outward
expression of simplicity, I pray that God help us practice them to His
Glory so that our lives may be fulfilled.
kourtney baines romero
Mar 5, 2012, 6:21:07 PM3/5/12
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1. Interesting enough people including myself are always trying to
find some type of balance, and here is the answer Simplicity which
brings joy and balance. Duplicity, according to the dictionary is
deceitfulness in speech or conduct, as by speaking or acting in two
different ways to different people concerning the same matter; double-
dealing. “No one can serve two masters …” Matthew 6:24 Simplicity is
just to follow God’s word trust in him, walk in the steps he has
ordered. When you try to live in both worlds the anxiety and fear of
the world seep into your life. I am encouraged strive toward
simplicity in my life.
2. Through the Grace of God Simplicity brings to us joy and balance;
possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying us. When
gaining possessions without the balance which is achieved through
simplicity your possessions will be all you have therefore resulting
in your destruction.
3. Yes I agree with all of Richard Foster’s ten controlling
principles, Its useful to have these written out on a post it near my
desk, it will assist in myself reflection. Definitely areas I need to
improve, I appreciate Richard Foster for breaking them down like this,
I can’t wait to share with others.
1. Buy things for their usefulness rather than their status
2. Reject anything that is producing an addiction in you
3. Develop a habit of giving things away
4. Refuse to be propagandized by the custodians of modern gadgetry
7. Look with a healthy skepticism at all “buy now, pay later “schemes
8. Obey Jesus’ instructions about plain, honest speech
God
find some type of balance, and here is the answer Simplicity which
brings joy and balance. Duplicity, according to the dictionary is
deceitfulness in speech or conduct, as by speaking or acting in two
different ways to different people concerning the same matter; double-
dealing. “No one can serve two masters …” Matthew 6:24 Simplicity is
just to follow God’s word trust in him, walk in the steps he has
ordered. When you try to live in both worlds the anxiety and fear of
the world seep into your life. I am encouraged strive toward
simplicity in my life.
2. Through the Grace of God Simplicity brings to us joy and balance;
possessions can be genuinely enjoyed without destroying us. When
gaining possessions without the balance which is achieved through
simplicity your possessions will be all you have therefore resulting
in your destruction.
3. Yes I agree with all of Richard Foster’s ten controlling
principles, Its useful to have these written out on a post it near my
desk, it will assist in myself reflection. Definitely areas I need to
improve, I appreciate Richard Foster for breaking them down like this,
I can’t wait to share with others.
1. Buy things for their usefulness rather than their status
2. Reject anything that is producing an addiction in you
3. Develop a habit of giving things away
4. Refuse to be propagandized by the custodians of modern gadgetry
5. Learn to enjoy things without owning them
6. Develop a deeper appreciation for the creation
7. Look with a healthy skepticism at all “buy now, pay later “schemes
8. Obey Jesus’ instructions about plain, honest speech
9. Reject anything that breeds the oppression of others
10. Shun anything that distracts you from seeking first the kingdom of
God
PATRICIA R. BLACKWOOD
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Hey dearest Michca, your posts restoreth my soul.
Thanks for your agreement! Blessings to you....see you there ;-)
Pat
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Darell,
I love your post, it has an impact on me!
God bless you,
Pat
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1. When I read this statement, I thought about Matt 6:24 "No one can
serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or
he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve
both God and Money." Simplicity is what Matt 6:33 states. "Seek ye
first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things
shall be added onto you". We can't want God and the things of the
world, it has to be one or the other. When we put God first, we get to
experience joy, peace and be well-balanced.
Living a life filled with duplicity on the other hand is doing things
your own way. This way is extremely dangerous mainly because you can
attach yourself to things that can hold you bondage for years and
bring out various emotions that will tear down or away at your
character and our destiny/purpose.
2. There is a phrase that I learned over the years and it goes like
this ( it maybe considered a little vulgar) K.I.S.S. It is an acronym
that stands for Keep It Simple Stupid (we can change it to "saints").
It means keep your lives simple. In other words, don't clutter your
lives with material possessions, popularity, or any other means that
cannot fill the divine void that is within us. Reread 1John 2:15-17.
God created us with only a void that He can fill, things won't.
Simplicity is the key to live a life with God.
3. I agree with Richard Foster's controlling principles. You have to
do extremes things for God. In America , we live life in "fast-
forward". We often expect things to happen immediately, forgetting
that we are not the ones in charge. We serve a God whom author and
Pastor Jentezen Franklin refers to as a "Crock Pot God", slowly.
This is sometimes difficult to remember during our day to day
routines. To help make our busy lives "easier" we sometimes allow
various things to hinder the most important thing-->our relationship
with God. I believe when that is on the line or you feel like you view
something more important than God, it is imperative that we take a
step back and apply one of the ten controlling principles in our
lives.
serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or
he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve
both God and Money." Simplicity is what Matt 6:33 states. "Seek ye
first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things
shall be added onto you". We can't want God and the things of the
world, it has to be one or the other. When we put God first, we get to
experience joy, peace and be well-balanced.
Living a life filled with duplicity on the other hand is doing things
your own way. This way is extremely dangerous mainly because you can
attach yourself to things that can hold you bondage for years and
bring out various emotions that will tear down or away at your
character and our destiny/purpose.
2. There is a phrase that I learned over the years and it goes like
this ( it maybe considered a little vulgar) K.I.S.S. It is an acronym
that stands for Keep It Simple Stupid (we can change it to "saints").
It means keep your lives simple. In other words, don't clutter your
lives with material possessions, popularity, or any other means that
cannot fill the divine void that is within us. Reread 1John 2:15-17.
God created us with only a void that He can fill, things won't.
Simplicity is the key to live a life with God.
3. I agree with Richard Foster's controlling principles. You have to
do extremes things for God. In America , we live life in "fast-
forward". We often expect things to happen immediately, forgetting
that we are not the ones in charge. We serve a God whom author and
Pastor Jentezen Franklin refers to as a "Crock Pot God", slowly.
This is sometimes difficult to remember during our day to day
routines. To help make our busy lives "easier" we sometimes allow
various things to hinder the most important thing-->our relationship
with God. I believe when that is on the line or you feel like you view
something more important than God, it is imperative that we take a
step back and apply one of the ten controlling principles in our
lives.
Mary.V
Mar 6, 2012, 12:55:37 PM3/6/12
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1. In today’s society to judge people by their possessions has become the norm. Aware of this, many people have become slaves of reaching the ultimate goal, which is to accumulate as much as they can to make sure they are portraying an image of success, happiness, and prosperity. The reality is that “the mission” brings anxiety due to the emptiness of the outcome itself. This is when the freedom that simplicity brings makes total sense. By living a life of simplicity we are leaving behind a mindset that makes us believe that what we have is the fruit of all our effort and depend totally in God’s providence.
2. I completely agree with this statement. I absolutely love Phil. 4:12. Many of the emotional crises human beings go through, crises such as depression, anxiety attacks, etc… are due to a change of “status”. When we live a life of simplicity those changes will not affect us as much, we will still have joy because we would know that the joy comes from seeking God and living a life full of His presence and not from where we live, what kind of car we drive and what position we hold in a company. In other words, simplicity is what’s going to help us enjoy what we do have but to keep that joy when we do have it anymore or even if never had it to start with.
3. I want to be very honest in my answer to this question. I completely agree with Foster when he states that simplicity brings balance to our life. Do I agree with all ten statements? No I do not. Out of the ten statements my favorite is #10, which I agree 100% with. I strongly believe that seeking first the Kingdom of God should always be our priority, what we live for and everything that distracts us from it should be removed. There are some other statements which, in my opinion, I found drastic. For example statement #4 when he talks about the modern gadgets, if we are to simplify our lives to that point we would not have the opportunity to participate in a course like this, which is fully online. I think Foster touches very good points and I do agree with many of them. I definitely need to work very hard to fully grasp this concept in order to completely apply it to my life, although I have learned to be content just because I have Jesus in my life, everything else is secondary.
Mary Vazquez
Mary.V
Mar 6, 2012, 1:01:21 PM3/6/12
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Darell,
Very good post. It impacted me that you used the phrase “Resting in God’s care” which is to depend on him. By using the word resting and to think of the action itself it gives some peace in my heart and that is exactly what it is to depend on God, it’s to have peace! Love it!
God bless you,
Mary V
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