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Sharon Mack

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Dec 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/18/98
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Does anybody have opinions on current issue safety shoes for the TA?

Michael B. Justice

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Dec 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/18/98
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Sharon Mack wrote in message
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>Does anybody have opinions on current issue safety shoes for the TA?

To my knowledge (and that of a few Car Inspectors I spoke to), the TA
no longer issues safety shoes.

[ Should anyone know of any division that still receives TA-issued
shoes, please feel free to correct me. The guys I know in CED say
that the TA gives them about $50 (after tax) to purchase shoes, every
couple of years. ]

The ones that they did issue (they used to come around in a truck)
were very good, but they were hard on your feet. A lot of people in
CED would complain about how the instep would pinch your foot, and
then remedy the problem using an anvil and a hammer.

+Mike
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mjustice<at>nyct<dot>net
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Cap'n Bludd

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Dec 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/18/98
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"Michael B. Justice" <mjustice.*nospam*@nyct.net> wrote:

>Sharon Mack wrote in message
><01be2a88$b4d79a20$c19f4e0c@oemcomputer>...
>>Does anybody have opinions on current issue safety shoes for the TA?
>
>To my knowledge (and that of a few Car Inspectors I spoke to), the TA
>no longer issues safety shoes.
>
>[ Should anyone know of any division that still receives TA-issued
>shoes, please feel free to correct me. The guys I know in CED say
>that the TA gives them about $50 (after tax) to purchase shoes, every
>couple of years. ]
>
>The ones that they did issue (they used to come around in a truck)
>were very good, but they were hard on your feet. A lot of people in
>CED would complain about how the instep would pinch your foot, and
>then remedy the problem using an anvil and a hammer.
>
>+Mike
>

They were offering shoes this summer as part of a test. If you took
'em you had to wear 'em for 6 months. They looked uncomfortable, heel
seemed too low, and no insulation for the winter.
I don't know what other departments the offered them to, but they
offered 'em to us in RTO Flagging. I didn't take 'em.

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Peter Rosa

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Dec 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/19/98
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Michael B. Justice <mjustice.*nospam*@nyct.net> wrote in article
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> >Does anybody have opinions on current issue safety shoes for the TA?
>
> To my knowledge (and that of a few Car Inspectors I spoke to), the TA
> no longer issues safety shoes.
>
> [ Should anyone know of any division that still receives TA-issued
> shoes, please feel free to correct me. The guys I know in CED say
> that the TA gives them about $50 (after tax) to purchase shoes, every
> couple of years. ]

$50? You aren't going to find much for that. Maybe a cheap pair of
workboots that won't last long, and probably not with steel toes.


Michael B. Justice

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Dec 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/19/98
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>Michael B. Justice <mjustice.*nospam*@nyct.net> wrote in article
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>> [ Should anyone know of any division that still receives TA-issued
>> shoes, please feel free to correct me. The guys I know in CED say
>> that the TA gives them about $50 (after tax) to purchase shoes,
every
>> couple of years. ]
>
>$50? You aren't going to find much for that. Maybe a cheap pair of
>workboots that won't last long, and probably not with steel toes.


$50 can buy cheap steel-toe shoes, but not boots.

But the bigger problem is that, even with adequate care, most work
shoes or boots will not last more than a year or so (if you use them 5
days out of the week).

+Mike
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Brooklyn NY USA
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Joseph D. Korman

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Dec 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/19/98
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FWIW, the Bus Maitainers get an annual allowance of $50 for work
shoes. So If they last a year, I suppose it's OK.

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KRH1955

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Dec 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/19/98
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> Should anyone know of any division that still receives TA-issued
>> >> shoes, please feel free to correct me.

The track department issued shoes last I knew, and still do. I don't know how
the issue works, but my brother was in track a few years ago, and they issued
him work boots. He said they were good quality, but hurt the feet after long
work days. RTO is always testing things like "safety gloves" and the like.
They originally tested safety glasses, now they are the rule for conductors.
My guess is that sooner or later we in RTO will be issued uniform shoes. They
permit black or dark brown shoes now, and all you get is a tax deduction.
Kenny
NYCTA Motorman (Train Operator)
MTA = Moving Trash Around
= Moving Thugs Around
= More Trouble Ahead

Alexcomm

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Dec 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/20/98
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There were a few track workers riding to a work site with the public on a
regular revenue
train. They had work shoes with large flaps
over the instep. Are those steel toe safety shoes?

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Cap'n Bludd

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Dec 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/20/98
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alex...@aol.com (Alexcomm) wrote:

>There were a few track workers riding to a work site with the public on a
>regular revenue
>train. They had work shoes with large flaps
>over the instep. Are those steel toe safety shoes?
>

Actually steel toed shoes are prohibited. For a good reason if you
think about it. I don't know what the flaps on Track's shoes are but
so far as I know they are not steel.

Twinforks

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Dec 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/22/98
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Peter Rosa wrote:
>
> Michael B. Justice <mjustice.*nospam*@nyct.net> wrote in article
> <F46A...@news2.new-york.net>...
>
> > >Does anybody have opinions on current issue safety shoes for the TA?
> >
> > To my knowledge (and that of a few Car Inspectors I spoke to), the TA
> > no longer issues safety shoes.
> >
> > [ Should anyone know of any division that still receives TA-issued
> > shoes, please feel free to correct me. The guys I know in CED say
> > that the TA gives them about $50 (after tax) to purchase shoes, every
> > couple of years. ]
>
> $50? You aren't going to find much for that. Maybe a cheap pair of
> workboots that won't last long, and probably not with steel toes.

There's a flip side to steel toed boots. I work for a railroad, and
refuse to wear them for this simple reason:

If you're lifting something heavy, such as replacing a knuckle, and it
falls on your foot, the steel will bend and now be pressing into your
shoe. The non-steel toe will just hurt like hell, but won't cut me.

Jay Eichler
Twin...@mail.peconic.net

Twinforks

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Dec 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/22/98
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KRH1955 wrote:
>
> > Should anyone know of any division that still receives TA-issued
> >> >> shoes, please feel free to correct me.
>
> The track department issued shoes last I knew, and still do. I don't know how
> the issue works, but my brother was in track a few years ago, and they issued
> him work boots. He said they were good quality, but hurt the feet after long
> work days. RTO is always testing things like "safety gloves" and the like.
> They originally tested safety glasses, now they are the rule for conductors.
> My guess is that sooner or later we in RTO will be issued uniform shoes. They
> permit black or dark brown shoes now, and all you get is a tax deduction.
> Kenny
> NYCTA Motorman (Train Operator)
> MTA = Moving Trash Around
> = Moving Thugs Around
> = More Trouble Ahead

Don't forget:

MTA = Money Thrown Away

Jay

KRH1955

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Dec 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/23/98
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>They had work shoes with large flaps
>>over the instep. Are those steel toe safety shoes?

The flap is for protection when operating a jack hammer. It is there to
deflect a broken bit from penetrating the foot. I saw this happen once before,
without the proper protection and it was gruesome to say the least.
Steel toed shoes don't provide protection against the crushing force of rails
and other heavy items that the trackmen use, they basically reduce impact from
falling objects and tools. They are not allowed in Operations, but I'm not
sure about track. We are forbidden to wear steel toes due to the third rail
being close to foot level. Long key chains are also prohibited for the same
reason, as well as metal flashlights.

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