Re: More Israeli Espionage against the U.S. - THE RUSSIANS are weking up - will we.

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"Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:09:12 -0800 (PST), Joe Bruno wrote:
>
>> So you think allies never spy on each other?LOL!
>>
>> During WWII, the USSR repeatedly spied on both the USA and Britain,
>> both it's allies.
>> During WWI, the British cut into the transatlantic cable to intercept
>> messages sent by Washington to Berlin.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JEWS AND ISRAEL HERE, NO COMPARISON IN THE RELATIONSHIP
AND THE DRAG THAT ISRAEL IS PLACING ON AMERICA.
This is something quite different from the street-level antisemitism of
the past For the first time the Russian people have realized what an awful
history they have had. It is no longer Solzhenitsyn saying there were 60
million victims of state terror; now conservative Soviet historians are
estimating 40 million. So the Russians have found that it was their regime
that destroyed all the cultural institutions, all the moral values, and
every day they see it discussed on television, and their historians tell
them, and new graves are discovered. And, of course, they remember who was
Karl Marx, and someone is saying that the grandfather of Lenin was Jewish...
It is mother nature that the scapegoat becomes the Jew.

What Shcharansky and other Jewish leaders find most disturbing about the new
antisemitism, "no longer just street- level," is the fact that it is to be
found in intellectual circles. Here, he says, it takes the form of a debate
around the question of Jewish responsibility for the years of Bolshevism.

Indeed, that was the charge levelled at the Soviet mathematician, Igor
Shafarevich, forcing Cambridge University to cancel a plan to award him an
honorary degree. In a manifesto entitled "Russophobia," Shafarevich claimed
that what he called "a very active Jewish component" was among those who
"slander the Russian nation." He also stated that in the revolutionary
movement, which he blamed for having destroyed Russian values, "Jewish
revolutionaries were motivated by a desire for revenge instilled by 2000
years of Jewish religious heritage," and that "a radical Jewish nationalism
was present in the Revolution and is still present."

So too, the letter signed by 77 leading Soviet intellectuals and published
in Literaturnaya Rossiya spoke harshly of the Jewish role.
>
> The United States routinely spies on Israel to try to gather information
> on
> its assumed atomic arsenal and secret government deliberations, according
> to "Masterpiece: An Inside Look at Sixty Years of Israeli Intelligence,"
> American spy agencies use technologies like electronic eavesdropping, and
> trained staff from the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv, for "methodical
> intelligence gathering."

than they use israelies whose reaction though not as dramatic as muslims yet
comes out as the guy who sold nukes secrets to israel said, "America ,
israel, give me israel every time"
>
> --
> ��Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man��s nature, there
> is
> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. �K If the Jews are rich [these
> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
> his own land, he is prevented from doing so.��
>
> Lloyd George

Nearly four years after Hitler had come to power, David Lloyd George �X
Britain��s prime minister during World War I �X made an extensive tour of
Germany. In an article published in a leading London newspaper in late 1936,
the British statesman recounted what he had seen and experienced. His
description, said Weber, is difficult to reconcile with the image to which
most Americans are accustomed.

��Whatever one may think of his [Hitler��s] methods,�� wrote Lloyd George,
��and they are certainly not those of a parliamentary country, there can be
no doubt that he has achieved a marvelous transformation in the spirit of
the people, in their attitude towards each other, and in their social and
economic outlook.

��He rightly claimed at Nuremberg that in four years his movement had made a
new Germany. It is not the Germany of the first decade that followed the
war �X broken, dejected and bowed down with a sense of apprehension and
impotence. It is now full of hope and confidence, and of a renewed sense of
determination to lead its own life without interference from any influence
outside its own frontiers.

��There is for the first time since the war a general sense of security. The
people are more cheerful. There is a greater sense of general gaiety of
spirit throughout the land. It is a happier Germany. I saw it everywhere,
and Englishmen I met during my trip and who knew Germany well were very
impressed with the change.

��One man has accomplished this miracle. He is a born leader of men. A
magnetic and dynamic personality with a single-minded purpose, a resolute
will and a dauntless heart. He is not merely in name but in fact the
national Leader. He has made them safe against potential enemies by whom
they were surrounded. He is also securing them against the constant dread of
starvation which is one of the most poignant memories of the last years of
the [First World] War and the first years of the Peace.

��As to his popularity, especially among the youth of Germany, there can be
no manner of doubt. The old trust him; the young idolise him. It is not the
admiration accorded to a popular leader. It is the worship of a national
hero who has saved his country from utter despondence and degradation. To
those who have actually seen and sensed the way Hitler reigns over the heart
and mind of Germany, this description may appear extravagant. All the same
it is the bare truth.��

In today��s America, said Weber, outright lies about Hitler and Third Reich
Germany are widespread and unchallenged. One of the most often repeated of
these is that Hitler tried to ��conquer the world.�� In fact, said Weber,
Hitler put great effort into cultivating friendship with other countries,
above all with Britain. At the same time that he was earnestly striving to
avoid clashes with the United States, President Roosevelt was doing
everything in his power to push the US into war against Germany, including
broadcasting fantastic lies about Hitler and his supposed ambition to take
over the world. Weber cited President Roosevelt��s radio address of October
27, 1941, in which he claimed that Hitler threatened the nominally neutral
United States, was plotting to take over all of South America, and was
determined to abolish all existing world religions, including Christianity,
and replace them with ��an international Nazi church.��

To support their distorted portrayals of Hitler and the Third Reich,
prominent historians rely upon and cite fraudulent source materials. A good
example, said Weber, is the supposed memoir of Hermann Rauschning, an
official in the German city-state of Danzig who broke with the National
Socialist movement in 1934-35, and then moved to France and later to the
United States. In his book, published in the US under the title The Voice of
Destruction, he presents page after page of what are purported to be
Hitler's most intimate views and secret plans for the future, allegedly
based on many private conversations between 1932 and 1934.

In fact, Weber said, Rauschning never had even a single private talk with
Hitler. All the same, lurid but fake quotes attributed to him by Rauschning
have found their way into numerous history books.

Weber held up copies of a few of the many books that rely on Rauschning��s
fraudulent ��revelations,�� including The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,
by William L. Shirer, Hitler: A Study in Tyranny, by Alan Bullock, and
Hitler, by Joachim Fest.

While it��s true that winners write history, that alone does not entirely
explain why Hitler and the Third Reich continue to be portrayed in such a
distorted and prejudiced way in our society. This widespread and enduring
bias with regard to Hitler and his regime, concluded Weber, is a reflection
of the Jewish-Zionist grip on American cultural and political life.

Irving on 'Faking�� History

Weber introduced David Irving by noting that even his adversaries concede
that his knowledge of Hitler and wartime Germany is unrivaled. The British
historian is the author of numerous books on this era, many of them
best-sellers, including his monumental work, Hitler��s War. Before and after
his 45-minute address, entitled ��The Faking of Adolf Hitler for History,��
Irving autographed copies of his books.

Among the many fraudulent historical documents that have been cited over the
years by ��conformist�� historians of the Third Reich era, Irving said, have
been the fake wartime diaries of Gerhard Engel, Hitler��s army adjutant, and
of Felix Kersten, masseur and confidant of Himmler. Similarly unreliable is
the diary of Mussolini��s foreign minister Galeazzo Ciano, which American
officials doctored after the war. Completely fake are Hitler��s supposed
��table talk�� remarks from February and April 1945. Irving related that the
Swiss lawyer Francois Genoud, now dead, admitted privately that he had
fabricated them.

Irving related that many valuable documents and research materials seized
during the course of his drawn-out legal battle with Jewish academic Deborah
Lipstadt have been destroyed or ��lost.��

He spoke contemptuously of the ��historian incest�� of his establishment
rivals, many of whom write new books about Hitler based on earlier and
equally derivative works by others who share similar prejudices. Irving, by
contrast, is known for his reliance on original documents dug out of major
archives, as well as diaries and letters obtained through great effort from
private individuals.