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Dennis Miller Live cancelled on HBO - boycott, anyone?

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arw

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Sep 1, 2002, 12:20:08 AM9/1/02
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From: Alan R. Weiss, newly-former HBO subscriber
To: The Idiots at Home Box Office
Subject: Cancellation of Dennis Miller Live

Why did you cancel Dennis Miller Live?

It was not only one of HBO's best, but quite possibly the best series on TV!
Certainly the best comedy series, DML made the not-lamented "Politically
Incorrect" look like the churlish epsilon-semi-moronic pablum it was.

Dennis Miller Live's cancellation leaves a HUGE gap the size of the grand
canyon right in the asscrack of television.

Considering your stupidity in cancelling DML and the greatly-abbreviated
"Sex in the City", I fail to see why I should buy HBO any longer. I have
been a relatively long-time subscriber in Austin, Texas - but no longer.

When you pull the nitrous oxide nosepiece away and realize that DML is the
SOUL of HBO and return Dennis Miller in SOME form to HBO, that is when I
will subscribe, again, to HBO.

Here's the bad part: I'm going to share this with MILLIONS of people on the
Internet via Newsgroups, websites, and other means.

Pissed Off,

Alan R. Weiss

P.S: Have the decency to give a copy of this to Dennis and head writer
Eddie Feldmann, too. I know Edd writes a lot of Dennis' schtick, and he
deserves better, too.

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Steve Wertz

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Sep 1, 2002, 2:47:27 AM9/1/02
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arw wrote:
>
> From: Alan R. Weiss, newly-former HBO subscriber
> To: The Idiots at Home Box Office
> Subject: Cancellation of Dennis Miller Live
>
> Why did you cancel Dennis Miller Live?

That was a nice Rant, But did you ever consider maybe DM didn't want
to do the show anymore? You need to watch more Entertainment Tonight,
and it doesn't come in the form of Newsgroups.

Carry on.

-sw

Tracey

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Sep 1, 2002, 3:00:00 AM9/1/02
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I would boycott them if they didnt cancel that goof.

THANK YOU FOR KICKING HIM WHERE IT HURTS!

Earl Cooley III

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Sep 1, 2002, 6:37:13 AM9/1/02
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On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 06:47:27 GMT, Steve Wertz <swe...@texas.net>
wrote:

In any case, he's not hurting much. HBO is giving him a nice big
one-shot special later on. He'll manage.
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e=sc^3 (sh...@io.com) Earl Cooley III

Ken (NY]

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Sep 1, 2002, 7:13:05 AM9/1/02
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On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 04:20:08 GMT, "arw" <al...@ebenchmarks.com> had the
unmitigated audacity to write:

>Dennis Miller Live's cancellation leaves a HUGE gap the size of the grand
>canyon right in the asscrack of television.

Miller's ratings were terrible, face it. That was the same
reason he lost his ABC gig on Monday Night Football. People were
tuning out and money talks in the private sector. When my saintly NY
Jets were on Monday Night Football, I turned down the sound and
listened on radio.
First, that silly half-giggle that acompanied every "joke"
made a lot of people tire of it all.
Second, most people in the country are not as politically
far-left as he is so that would keep many viewers away.
Third, his knowledge of professional football was very
limited. You don't kick home runs in football.
Fourth, many thought he was generally as dumb as a bowl of
mice and as queer as a football bat.
Maybe he will get a spot on some local taxpayer-supported
station where ratings don't matter and the people paying for it (the
taxpayers) can't fire him? If he can convince the government public
entertainment bureaucrats that his act is art, and that obscene
language is important to the people, he might just make it there.

Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________

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JLAudio

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Sep 1, 2002, 11:50:42 AM9/1/02
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I hear ya there. There's a link to a petition letter here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?savedml
We're up to 709 signatures so far.

JLAudio

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Sep 1, 2002, 11:53:22 AM9/1/02
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"Steve Wertz" <swe...@texas.net> wrote in message
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Dude, he was cancelled. He didn't just quit.


JLAudio

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Sep 1, 2002, 11:59:12 AM9/1/02
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You know Dennis Miller does talk a lot of good stuff, but he sure isn't a
libertarian.

On his last show, he was all for attacking Iraq, and he's often been for gun
control, which of course libertarians are not for.

He pisses me off because he has done 2 rants on the War on Drugs. The one
in 1998 where Bill Maher was the guest, he pisses all over it. But the one
he did this year, in which he had current head of the DEAssholes Asa
Hutchinson on, he almost sold out to it.

The good thing about Denny is he's full of common sense and he gotten mad
recently at the fat ass who wants to sue the fast food restaurants because
of his health. (Then again, who hasn't?)

Denny is a great person. I wish he hadn't lost both his show, or his job on
Monday Night Football.

JLAudio

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Sep 1, 2002, 12:08:06 PM9/1/02
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> Miller's ratings were terrible, face it. That was the same
> reason he lost his ABC gig on Monday Night Football. People were
> tuning out and money talks in the private sector. When my saintly NY
> Jets were on Monday Night Football, I turned down the sound and
> listened on radio.
> First, that silly half-giggle that acompanied every "joke"
> made a lot of people tire of it all.
> Second, most people in the country are not as politically
> far-left as he is so that would keep many viewers away.

First off, the ratings of MNF have NOTHING to do with the announcers, ok?
They kind of have to do with the matchups on TV. In 1999, the Atlanta/SF
game that capped off MNF's season, was pretty much the lowest rated MNF
ever. Why? Well they were both high hopes going into the season, then they
both had won 8 games combined by the time their MNF game aired.

MNF lost a lot of viewership mainly because football is completely
unpredictable nowadays. I will bet that MNF won't get much higher ratings
with Michaels and Madden.

Remember, it's the GAME, not the announcers.

gregorio cortez

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Sep 1, 2002, 12:48:13 PM9/1/02
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His stint on Monday Night Football ended up ruining things for him.

Once he was featured to a really large broadcast audience, everyone
discovered he was simply a vocabularily-pretentious, talent-bereft shitsack
that hates, not only himself but, everyone and everything around him.

He has to be one of the most painfully insecure people that I've ever
watched on television and, for that reason alone, I won't miss him one bit.


Clucking Grass Mole

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Sep 1, 2002, 3:47:27 PM9/1/02
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In article <gxrc9.223920$Aw4.9...@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
sherif...@vivalaraza.net says...
You didn't get his jokes huh?
BT
--
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. The real tragedy
of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato

Bert Hyman

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Sep 1, 2002, 3:52:43 PM9/1/02
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In news:Yzgc9.146778$eK6.4...@twister.austin.rr.com "arw"
<al...@ebenchmarks.com> wrote:

> From: Alan R. Weiss, newly-former HBO subscriber
> To: The Idiots at Home Box Office
> Subject: Cancellation of Dennis Miller Live
>
> Why did you cancel Dennis Miller Live?

Any particular reason why you waited 'til AFTER his show went off the air
to mention this?

It's been pretty widely known that his show was going off the air for
quite some time.

And, what's with the bizarre selection of newsgroups for your cross-post?

FollowUps set.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@visi.com

Taster

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Sep 1, 2002, 4:02:16 PM9/1/02
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Dennis Miller is cancelled???? And here I thought HBO's management was
good!


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Slartibartfast

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Sep 1, 2002, 4:11:33 PM9/1/02
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Travidiot, as usual stepping on his penis as David the boy Blunder, must not
realize that Dennis Miller is more conservative/libertarian than liberal.

Travidiot, obtain a real job and buy on the free market a CLUE!

Alan


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Slartibartfast

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Sep 1, 2002, 4:18:13 PM9/1/02
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"Ken (NY]" <em...@below.text> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 04:20:08 GMT, "arw" <al...@ebenchmarks.com> had the
> unmitigated audacity to write:
>
> >Dennis Miller Live's cancellation leaves a HUGE gap the size of the grand
> >canyon right in the asscrack of television.
>
> Miller's ratings were terrible, face it. That was the same
> reason he lost his ABC gig on Monday Night Football.

Do you have PROOF that the ratings on Dennis Miller Live were "terrible?"

Or are you just spouting off?


> People were
> tuning out and money talks in the private sector. When my saintly NY
> Jets were on Monday Night Football, I turned down the sound and
> listened on radio.

Saintly New York Jets? What a laugh.


> First, that silly half-giggle that acompanied every "joke"
> made a lot of people tire of it all.
> Second, most people in the country are not as politically
> far-left as he is so that would keep many viewers away.

You're a buffoon. DML was mostly conservative, occasionally libertarian.
He constantly SKEWERED liberals.


> Third, his knowledge of professional football was very
> limited. You don't kick home runs in football.

But we're not talking about him being cancelled from Monday Night Football,
moron. Read the post next time.


> Fourth, many thought he was generally as dumb as a bowl of
> mice and as queer as a football bat.

Odd, since he's married, with kids, and if you've read his books they are
brilliant satirical pieces. Dumb? I doubt it. Nobody culturally
subreferences like DML.

...


>
> Ken (NY)
> Chairman,
> Department Of Redundancy Department


Ken, an enormous jagoff


Slartibartfast

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Sep 1, 2002, 4:19:00 PM9/1/02
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"Clucking Grass Mole" <brook...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.17dc2b421...@news-server.austin.rr.com...

> In article <gxrc9.223920$Aw4.9...@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
> sherif...@vivalaraza.net says...
> > His stint on Monday Night Football ended up ruining things for him.
> >
> > Once he was featured to a really large broadcast audience, everyone
> > discovered he was simply a vocabularily-pretentious, talent-bereft
shitsack
> > that hates, not only himself but, everyone and everything around him.
> >
> > He has to be one of the most painfully insecure people that I've ever
> > watched on television and, for that reason alone, I won't miss him one
bit.
> >
> >
> >
> You didn't get his jokes huh?
> BT


Its doubtful that this clown could understand a thing Dennis said.


gregorio cortez

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Sep 1, 2002, 5:05:21 PM9/1/02
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> Its doubtful that this clown could understand a thing Dennis said.


Maybe I should have phrased my response in a manner that even a moron like
you could understand...

"He be gone, and I likes it!"


Clucking Grass Mole

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Sep 1, 2002, 5:57:24 PM9/1/02
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In article <livc9.80030$On.38...@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
sherif...@vivalaraza.net says...
Actually I'm not sure your father would get it no matter how you phrase
it...

alpha beta

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Sep 1, 2002, 8:53:48 PM9/1/02
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O&A LIVES!!!!

alpha beta

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Sep 1, 2002, 8:57:25 PM9/1/02
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Clucking Grass Mole wrote:
>
> In article <gxrc9.223920$Aw4.9...@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
> sherif...@vivalaraza.net says...
> > His stint on Monday Night Football ended up ruining things for him.
> >
> > Once he was featured to a really large broadcast audience, everyone
> > discovered he was simply a vocabularily-pretentious, talent-bereft shitsack
> > that hates, not only himself but, everyone and everything around him.
> >
> > He has to be one of the most painfully insecure people that I've ever
> > watched on television and, for that reason alone, I won't miss him one bit.
> >
> >
> >
> You didn't get his jokes huh?

"Getting" his jokes did not make the fact that the whole MNF experiment
with him was a BUST.

Barbara

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Sep 2, 2002, 9:37:00 AM9/2/02
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He sicked any way.

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JLAudio

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Sep 2, 2002, 10:12:46 AM9/2/02
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"Barbara" <wb5...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> He sicked any way.

Oh really. Most people like u think he sucked. lol

And why? Because you didn't get his jokes?!

Earl Cooley III

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On Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:37:00 GMT, "Barbara" <wb5...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>He sicked any way.

Dennis Miller threw up on camera? Awesome! I expect that he could do a
good bushu-rushu Jr. skit.

David Kaye

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Sep 2, 2002, 4:09:04 PM9/2/02
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"arw" <al...@ebenchmarks.com> wrote:

> To: The Idiots at Home Box Office

Oh, this is not going to impress them. Rule #1: If you want attention
from someone, don't start by insulting them.

> Why did you cancel Dennis Miller Live?
>

Rule #2: Think first. Why did HBO cancel Dennis Miller? Why does any
TV network cancel a program? They didn't get the ratings they wanted.

> It was not only one of HBO's best, but quite possibly the best series on TV!
> Certainly the best comedy series, DML made the not-lamented "Politically
> Incorrect" look like the churlish epsilon-semi-moronic pablum it was.

Rule #3: Clever turns of phrase serve only to portray the writer as
self-important. They do not impress the reader of a complaint letter.

> Dennis Miller Live's cancellation leaves a HUGE gap the size of the grand
> canyon right in the asscrack of television.

Rule #4: Gutter language does not impress a business executive who
might be apt to reconsider a decision based on feedback. If anything,
it confirms the executive's belief that s/he was right in the first
place.

> Considering your stupidity in cancelling DML and the greatly-abbreviated
> "Sex in the City", I fail to see why I should buy HBO any longer.

See Rule #1. Rule #5: Threats of boycott do not impress executives.
They know that most threats are empty. The classic is the newspaper
cancellation. By month's end, the irate subscriber has quietly
re-subscribed. Numbers don't lie. And even if the threat to cancel
is made good, so what? From reading the letter, the executive is
going to be more convinced s/he made the right decision because they
don't consider such a letter writer to be the kind of audience they
want anyway.

> Here's the bad part: I'm going to share this with MILLIONS of people on the
> Internet via Newsgroups, websites, and other means.

Rule #6: Bravado doesn't get anybody anywhere. "I'm going to pull
rank on you and then YOU'LL see!" is bogus. An executive just doesn't
react to this kind of response because it means nothing. So what if
some people see the post? Are they going to base their decision on
the rant of someone they don't even know?

> P.S: Have the decency to give a copy of this to Dennis and head writer
> Eddie Feldmann, too. I know Edd writes a lot of Dennis' schtick, and he
> deserves better, too.

Rule #7: Don't challenge someone to do something after you've already
insulted them. They're not going to want to do it.

Maybe it's time you learned some of the rules of the game.

Ken (NY]

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On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 15:50:42 GMT, "JLAudio" <len...@earthlink.net> had

the unmitigated audacity to write:

709 fans vs. tens of millions of bored viewers. My
money is on the viewers.

Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department

Ken (NY]

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Sep 2, 2002, 9:13:09 PM9/2/02
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On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 20:18:13 GMT, "Slartibartfast"
<no...@nonesuch.orgasm> had the unmitigated audacity to write:

>> Miller's ratings were terrible, face it. That was the same
>> reason he lost his ABC gig on Monday Night Football.
>
>Do you have PROOF that the ratings on Dennis Miller Live were "terrible?"
>
>Or are you just spouting off?

Los Angeles, CA - There’s going to be yet another change in the
broadcast booth of Monday Night Football. Long time sportscaster John
Madden has agreed to leave Fox to become the new co-anchor on ABC with
incumbent Al Michaels for a reported five million dollars per year.
Unfortunately, that leaves little room for comedian Dennis Miller.

According to Miller, he assumed the worst when he saw the recent
Nielson ratings. "I could see this coming more clearly than Fiver the
Rabbit with reading glasses. Mr. Joe P. American apparently can’t
understand what I’m saying, and they’ve been complaining about it.
What do you expect from a bunch of modern-day, Jurgus Rudkuses whose
heads are so far up into their nether-regions that they need to use a
proctosigmoidoscopy for a reading light?"
http://www.bobfromaccounting.com/2_25_02/dennismiller.html

So apparently, it's the fault of the viewers who don't
understand what Miller was saying. Get it? Miller is cool and the
public are idiots.

>
>> People were
>> tuning out and money talks in the private sector. When my saintly NY
>> Jets were on Monday Night Football, I turned down the sound and
>> listened on radio.
>
>Saintly New York Jets? What a laugh.

Super bowl in 2003. Get your tickets early.

>> First, that silly half-giggle that acompanied every "joke"
>> made a lot of people tire of it all.
>> Second, most people in the country are not as politically
>> far-left as he is so that would keep many viewers away.
>
>You're a buffoon. DML was mostly conservative, occasionally libertarian.
>He constantly SKEWERED liberals.

by Jonathan Lowe:
Listen, I don’t wanna get off on a rant, here, but I think it’s about
time someone takes Dennis Miller by the hand and leads him out of
L.A.’s smog to a place where he’ll be able to see things more clearly.
. . like the slapping of his hand with the back scratcher Dick
Gephardt gave him years ago. Every time I hear Dennis, it’s the same
old Republican weenie roast, whether on Letterman, Leno, or in those
amusing but denigrating books he’s written and recorded. First there
was Ranting, then Ranting Again, then Rants Redux. . . I suppose next
time I’ll be reviewing RANTS IV: TOP TEN CONSERVATIVES IMPALED ON A
SHTICK. Certainly not as predictable as the Chicken Soup For The
{Fill-in-the-Blank} books, but the biased cloak Dennis wears like a
kevlar vest could be discarded for an even wider audience.
http://www.eyepiece.com/living/9906/990624jl.asp

>
>> Third, his knowledge of professional football was very
>> limited. You don't kick home runs in football.
>
>But we're not talking about him being cancelled from Monday Night Football,
>moron. Read the post next time.

I mentioned it because it seems that Mr. Miller has had a long
history of bombing on television. HBO is only his latest flop.

>> Fourth, many thought he was generally as dumb as a bowl of
>> mice and as queer as a football bat.
>
>Odd, since he's married, with kids, and if you've read his books they are
>brilliant satirical pieces. Dumb? I doubt it. Nobody culturally
>subreferences like DML.

I don't know for a fact that he is heterosexual, but others
seem to be convinced that he is a bit light in the loafers. And does
being married with children guarantee that a man is straight?

>Ken, an enormous jagoff

Whatever floats your boat, young fellow.
Cordially,


Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department

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Tracey

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Sep 3, 2002, 5:59:58 AM9/3/02
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Miller's a kind of icon to the commie left, isn't he?

Slartibartfast

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Sep 3, 2002, 12:12:02 PM9/3/02
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> So apparently, it's the fault of the viewers who don't
> understand what Miller was saying. Get it? Miller is cool and the
> public are idiots.


I'll go along with that.

Yes.

Alan


gary

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Sep 3, 2002, 12:34:08 PM9/3/02
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Actually, Miller is all over the place politically. Libertarian-Liberal
with some conservative law-and-order views -- such as pro dealth penalty --
in there for spice. Not far left. Never Corporate Republican.
gary
austin


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Ken (NY]

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On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:59:58 GMT, Tracey <trace...@yahoo.com> had

the unmitigated audacity to write:

>Miller's a kind of icon to the commie left, isn't he?

Sure is. Was.


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alpha beta

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Sep 3, 2002, 3:01:21 PM9/3/02
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"Ken (NY]" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:59:58 GMT, Tracey <trace...@yahoo.com> had
> the unmitigated audacity to write:
>
> >Miller's a kind of icon to the commie left, isn't he?
>
> Sure is. Was.

Proof? Cite?

alpha beta

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Sep 3, 2002, 10:32:34 PM9/3/02
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Cyphe...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

> KKKen musta been hurt by one of Miller's rants,
> or he wouldn't be carrying on so.
>

Yeah, baby! ;-)

Tracey

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Sep 4, 2002, 4:26:21 AM9/4/02
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Maybe so, but here is what seperates the herd: I'll bet ol Dennis is 100% pro
abortion.

You can call yourself all kinds of pretty names, but if you support killing
little unborn children except for moments when a mothers life will be taken
unless the baby is removed, and want to call yourself a Conservative, you are
throughly mixed up, confused, and wrong.

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