Clover Valley Honey

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dar...@centurytel.net

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Jan 4, 2012, 5:40:22 PM1/4/12
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We recently bought a small container of thi honey and it has a very
strong "apple juice" taste.
They say it is "100% Happy Guaranteed".

Anyone tried this?

Dave Weakley

Dana a Mcdowell

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Jan 4, 2012, 7:23:06 PM1/4/12
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I went to dollargeneral.com and searched for pure honey, clover valley honey and got zero.  I checked the evap milk can and it also says 100% happy guaranteed, which tells me that is a trademark kind of, for $ gen like Wmart has.  Let me have the correct label name, i.e. 100% Pure Honey, size of jar, ID # of some sort and I'll ask if you don't want to.
I check things like this all the time because I am celiac/gluten intolerant and am a "gluten HUNTER" by reading the labels and searching online.  Most manufacturers have a FAQ section and most products are on it. 
And that's why I am a keeper of bees and organic as much as possible.  It works!!

Leigh W

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Jan 4, 2012, 9:57:17 PM1/4/12
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New on new bee parasite discovery that may be connected to CCD. (Horrifying though!) Leigh


Deadly fly parasite spotted for first time in honey bees

Jan. 4, 2012 -- Honey bees can become the unwitting hosts of a fly parasite that causes them to abandon their hives and die after a bout of disoriented, “zombie-like” behavior, San Francisco State University researchers have found.

The phenomenon, first observed on the SF State campus, may help scientists learn more about colony collapse disorder (CCD). This mysterious ailment has drastically increased honey bee colony losses across the United States since its discovery in 2006.

So far, the fly parasite has only been found in honey bee hives in California and South Dakota, said SF State Professor of Biology John Hafernik. But the possibility that it is an emerging parasite “underlines the danger that could threaten honey bee colonies throughout North America, especially given the number of states that commercial hives cross and are deployed in,” Hafernik and colleagues write in the January 3, 2012 issue of PLoS ONE.

John Hafernik, whose reseach team discovered the fly parasite in bees.

Professor of Biology John Hafernik, whose reseach team discovered the fly parasite in bees.

Hafernik, who also serves as president of the California Academy of Sciences, didn’t set out to study the parasitized bees. In 2008, he was just looking for some insects to feed the praying mantis that he had brought back to SF State’s Hensill Hall after an entomology field trip. He scrounged the bees from underneath the light fixtures outside the biology building.“But being an absent-minded professor,” Hafernik joked, “I left them in a vial on my desk and forgot about them. Then the next time I looked at the vial, there were all these fly pupae surrounding the bees.”

The fly, Apocephalus borealis, deposits its eggs into a bee’s abdomen. Usually about seven days after the bee dies, fly larvae push their way into the world from between the bee’s head and thorax. But it’s the middle part of this macabre story that may be the most scientifically interesting to those studying the dramatic and mysterious disappearance of honey bees.

After being parasitized by the fly, the bees abandon their hives in what is literally a flight of the living dead to congregate near lights. “When we observed the bees for some time—the ones that were alive—we found that they walked around in circles, often with no sense of direction,” said Andrew Core, an SF State graduate student from Hafernik’s lab who is the lead author on the study.

Core won first place at the 2011 California State University Research Competition and the Geraldine K. Lindsay Award for excellence in the natural sciences at the annual meeting of the Pacific Division of the American Association for the Advancement of Science for his presentation of the bee research.

Bees usually just sit in one place, sometimes curling up before they die, said Core. But the parasitized bees were still alive, unable to stand up on their legs. “They kept stretching them out and then falling over,” he said. “It really painted a picture of something like a zombie.”

Fly larvae emerge from a bee after being deposited in the bee's abdomen several days earlier.

Fly larvae emerge from a bee after being deposited in the bee's abdomen several days earlier.

Bees that left the hives at night were more likely to bear the parasite than those who foraged during the day, the researchers found. Genetic tests of parasitized hives also showed that both bees and flies were often infected with deformed wing virus and a fungus called Nosema ceranae.

Some researchers have pointed to the virus and fungus as potential culprits in colony collapse disorder, and hive abandonment is the primary characteristic of the disorder. It may be time, Hafernik said, to consider how the fly parasite fits into the CCD picture.

He said the next step is to find out exactly how the parasite is affecting the bees’ behavior. It is possible, he said, that the parasite is somehow interfering with the bees’ “clock genes” that help them keep a normal day-night rhythm.

The researchers also don’t know if the infected bees are leaving the hive of their own accord, or whether they give off some sort of chemical signal that provokes their hive mates into throwing them out. “A lot of touching and tasting goes on in a hive,” Hafernik said, “and it’s certainly possible that their co-workers are finding them and can tell that there’s something wrong with them.”

The scientists will deploy a range of tools -- from tiny radio tags to video monitoring -- to help them answer these questions and discover ways to protect the hives.

“We don’t know the best way to stop parasitization, because one of the big things we’re missing is where the flies are parasitizing the bees,” Hafernik noted. “We assume it’s while the bees are out foraging, because we don’t see the flies hanging around the bee hives. But it’s still a bit of a black hole in terms of where it’s actually happening.”

Genetic analysis of the parasites confirmed that they are the same flies that have been infecting bumblebees, raising the possibility that the fly is an emerging and potentially costly new threat to honey bees.

“Honey bees are among the best-studied insects in the world,” Hafernik noted. “So at one level, we would expect that if this has been a long-term parasite of honey bees, we would have noticed.”

Colleagues in this study, “A new threat to honey bees, the parasitic phorid fly Apocephalus borealis.” include SF State students Jonathan Ivers, Christopher Quock, Travis Siapno and Seraphina DeNault; SF State Assistant Professor of Biology Christopher D. Smith; graduate student Charles Runckel and Professor of Biology Joseph DeRisi from the University of California, San Francisco; and phorid expert Brian Brown from the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County.

-- University Communications

Nancy Kahanak

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Jan 4, 2012, 10:42:23 PM1/4/12
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Thank you for sharing this!
Nancy

Al Lemke

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Jan 5, 2012, 7:29:20 AM1/5/12
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Dana;

I am gluten intolerant and would like to discuss this with you. My email is al...@centurytel.net . Thanks

tom

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Jan 5, 2012, 11:44:23 AM1/5/12
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Is this the same Al Lemke that worked at Delco Mfg for Bob Smith back in the early 80’s that was a pilot for them?

 

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Darvin Weakley

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Jan 6, 2012, 1:09:53 PM1/6/12
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The name is, "Clover Valley Honey".  U.S. Grade A.  Bought at Dollar General.  12 oz.

Has a definite "apple" taste.  I have had honey of several kinds and never tasted one like this.

Dave

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Jan 6, 2012, 8:21:44 PM1/6/12
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"Clover Valley" is the dollar general store brand for everything.  I have bought Clover Valley Coffee, etc., etc..  I'm sure their honey is from whatever source is the cheapest at the time.  It is most likely blended from several sources, as most all store honey is.  I would be very skeptical of any such honey with a strange flavor.  Bees that visit apple blossoms don't produce honey that taste like apples.  It would have to be some other factor.

Mark



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Leigh W

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Jan 6, 2012, 8:56:38 PM1/6/12
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From this article....looks like there's a 75% chance what you are tasting isn't pure honey.  This is just one of many articles I've read recently about 'honey laundering" so that chinese and indian honey (some banned from import due to antibiotic and banned chemical use) can be snuck onto the US market...  All the more reason to buy locally produced honey from a beekeeper you know is selling pure honey! 
Leigh


Link to full article: http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey/

Tests Show Most Store Honey Isn't Honey

Ultra-filtering Removes Pollen, Hides Honey Origins

BY ANDREW SCHNEIDER | NOV 07, 2011

More than three-fourths of the honey sold in U.S. grocery stores isn't exactly what the bees produce, according to testing done exclusively for Food Safety News.

The results show that the pollen frequently has been filtered out of products labeled "honey."
The removal of these microscopic particles from deep within a flower would make the nectar flunk the quality standards set by most of the world's food safety agencies.

The food safety divisions of the  World Health Organization, the European Commission and dozens of others also have ruled that without pollen there is no way to determine whether the honey came from legitimate and safe sources.
 
honey-without-pollen-food-safety-news1.jpgIn the U.S., the Food and Drug Administration says that any product that's been ultra-filtered and no longer contains pollen isn't honey. However, the FDA isn't checking honey sold here to see if it contains pollen. <snipped> (click link below to read rest of article)

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