Microsoft Really Doesn't Want You To Write Desktop Apps

[Rahul AG]

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/

Seems like an underhanded way of pushing Metro, IMO.

[Bach Le]

One less Microsoft fanboy

[James Yong]

don't worry, win7 can hold up for quite a while to go and possibly for the next 10 years.

full vs11 might be available for educational places, so that should be good.

still, unless you are a serious dev, you might not notice or use new vs11 features

[Hong Dai Thanh]

Do you need the tool chain to compile non Windows API program that can run on Windows 8?

[Laurence Putra Franslay]

aiya, there's always the 'friendly' version :)

[BlacKeNinG]

Maybe not :P

"Submitting applications to the store will cost money, even for free
applications; private developers will have to pay $49 a year,
corporations $99 a year."

On the other hand, i think this only applies to metro apps. I doubt
microsoft has the guts to tell adobe to sell on their marketplace. The
"professional" software (and games) is probably what keeps most
windows users so. If they really dared to, then my conclusion is even
more valid.

Historically, this exact move was what killed apple and gave microsoft
dominance of the PC market. Apple (then the dominating desktop OS)
wanted only approved software developers developing their software.
Windows stayed open. Its interesting that apple, google and microsoft
have agreement on this today. I understand their (valid) reason is
probably to keep the trolls off the marketplace.

Too bad linux doesn't pose a viable, unified alternative. Sometimes i
feel that the democracy which keeps linux the way it is also prevents
it from being a superpower. They don't, and can't do marketing or do
customer support (driver problems, have you will). Look at android.
Its a linux derivative. Its at the top of its market now. Probably
because there is a huge company backing it and marketing it. Platforms
need huge user traction to have economies of scale. The linux user
base is far below critical mass to go nuclear. If this weren't the
case, we could announce 2013 as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_Linux#Year_of_Desktop_Linux
because everyone else committed sepuku. Pity that isn't the case.

On May 26, 10:57 am, Laurence Putra Franslay <laurencepu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> aiya, there's always the 'friendly' version :)
>

> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Hong Dai Thanh <nhah...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Do you need the tool chain to compile non Windows API program that can run
> > on Windows 8?
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> > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:41 AM, James Yong <yongkiml...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> don't worry, win7 can hold up for quite a while to go and possibly for
> >> the next 10 years.
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> >> full vs11 might be available for educational places, so that should be
> >> good.
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> >> still, unless you are a serious dev, you might not notice or use new vs11
> >> features

> >> On May 25, 2012 9:23 AM, "Bach Le" <thebull...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>> One less Microsoft fanboy
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> >>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Rahul AG <r...@hul.im> wrote:
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> >>>>http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop...

[Eli]

I'm not sure, you know. I sometimes think that the weaknesses Linux has on desktop is bad, but then I'm reminded that those same weaknesses are its strengths in the server space. Those same strengths are things that keep Microsoft and Apple out of the loop. 

So ... you win some, you lose some, I guess.