Fw: Microsoft MTC Presentation (17 Sep) & Interview

[Laurence Putra]

Hey guys,

Microsoft is hiring. If you are interested in getting a free surface through working in MS =P

[Raymond Tay]

not that i'm bias, but really?

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 9:51 PM, mces89 <shya...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey, has any guy received the interview information for the full time job, I submitted my resume, but don't get any information then...

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[Ryan Dao]

I would say this is the best time to work at Microsoft, so do submit your resume if you think you're qualified. I've been talking/making friends with a lot of Microsoft folks lately and can say that working environment is relatively good compared to other major companies. The only downside (in my opinion) is that you have to use PC and Visual Studio...

[Bach Le]

What crime has Visual Studio committed?

[Divyanshu Arora]

It's not emacs.</troll>

To be honest, it's the nicest IDE that I've used.

[Laurence Putra]

dude, you should code using grep | > >>

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[Bach Le]

It has:
-A vim plugin (because I can't reprogram my muscle memory to use anything else)
-Customizable debugger which can display your own template types nicely
-Edit and continue debugging

-Conditional breakpoint.

-Trace point which is much better than spraying printf everywhere.

-A good debugger that can switches between assembly and source

-Flexible builder with customizable code/resource compiler, pre-post build steps

I seriously don't get all the hates.

[Rahul AG]

It also runs exclusively on Windows, so us hipsters stick to vim+make+gdb+valgrind+strace/dtrace.

— Rahul

[Bach Le]

But hating VS seems to be pretty mainstream.

[Rahul AG]

Only within certain communities, though. A huge number of devs swear by VS and IntelliSense, and are completely crippled without it.

<troll> They are also incapable of coding on anything that isn't Windows. </troll>

— Rahul

[Raymond Tay]

I used to work with a codebase that has about 300 - 400K lines of C++ code in it and that kind of scale is where VS value adds...and
building that codebase often means i need to plan a 1.5hr break ahead of time; don't try it of course since there is Incredibuild distributed parallel build systems....

debugging on VS is of course still a royal pain in the ass...

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