SCHOOL FEES...OUCH
Ng Farene @ Wu Wenli
I received the bill from NUS for Term 1 just the other day. I'm a
Singaporean in ARTS, so no sympathy for me.
= $2,450. Up $250. I anticipated that.
My friend also received his bill. He's non-singaporean, but not in
Science or Engineering, so not as much sympathy either.
= $1,000. Now *THAT* I did not anticipate. I hear those in Science and
Engineering are paying even less.
I know the whole fee hike thing is supposed to have blown over but a
difference of $1450?!?! Should there be a difference at all?!
I'm the Singaporean here, right?! $1,450 *MORE* than foreign students?
I don't know......somebody PLEASE tell me I'm wrong about this, COZ IT
REALLY REALLY GETS TO ME.
Farene
art6...@leonis.nus.sg
Gilbert Koh
Are you sure that your friend is not a scholar or
taking a bank loan
(so that his sponsor/bank gets a bill too, and the amount
reflected on your friend's bill are only the miscellaneous
fees eg hostel that your friend still has to pay)
Hon Shin Ming
Ng Farene @ Wu Wenli (art6...@leonis.nus.sg) wrote:
: I'm the Singaporean here, right?! $1,450 *MORE* than foreign students?
: I don't know......somebody PLEASE tell me I'm wrong about this, COZ IT
: REALLY REALLY GETS TO ME.
I heard from sci it seems likely as well...hmm...
--
Just me...
Ming
:)
Ho Tim Hou
Ng Farene @ Wu Wenli wrote in article
>I'm the Singaporean here, right?! $1,450 *MORE* than foreign students?
>I don't know......somebody PLEASE tell me I'm wrong about this, COZ IT
>REALLY REALLY GETS TO ME.
>
>
>art6...@leonis.nus.sg
Hi,
NO KIDDING?!?!?!? Now are we paying for those foreign students as
well?!?!?!?!?! Geez man! This is a rip-off!!!!!
t.h
John Suppiah
Kao Sze Chang wrote:
>
> : I'm the Singaporean here, right?! $1,450 *MORE* than foreign students?
> : I don't know......somebody PLEASE tell me I'm wrong about this, COZ IT
> : REALLY REALLY GETS TO ME.
>
> thats the proce to pay for your vote.
>
> the issue i think shouldnt be with foreign students, more of a huge admin
> policy problem.
>
> i am ..... a singaporean too, and i know who i will vote for next GE.
Why all the talk and complaint only, Bring this up to the ministry and
ask them for an explantaion.
Khor Tze-Hern
Ng Farene @ Wu Wenli (art6...@leonis.nus.sg) wrote:
: I received the bill from NUS for Term 1 just the other day. I'm a
: Singaporean in ARTS, so no sympathy for me.
: = $2,450. Up $250. I anticipated that.
: My friend also received his bill. He's non-singaporean, but not in
: Science or Engineering, so not as much sympathy either.
: = $1,000. Now *THAT* I did not anticipate. I hear those in Science and
: Engineering are paying even less.
The annual tuition fee structure for the 1997/98 school term are as
follows :
S'poreans Foreign students
Non-lab courses 4,900 6,150
Lab courses 5,450 6,800
Medic and Dentistry 14,650 18,300
Your friend is probably receiving a scholarship/loan of some kind.
Regards,
Khor Tze-Hern
Faculty of Engineering
NUS
Tan Teng Sern
????????
I don't know but for lab-based student, foreign students' tuition fee is
$3,400/semester , excluding of bankloan and other stuff like hostel fee.
For example if I take bank loan then my tuition fee will be
$3,400 X 20% = $ 680
adding to other crazy fees like hostel fee , nussu membership fee , sports
fee ....... then it become about $1500++.
Satisfied Mr. Singaporean?
--
Regards,
Teng Sern.
Kao Sze Chang
Gilbert Koh
On 15 Sep 1997, Khor Tze-Hern wrote:
> The annual tuition fee structure for the 1997/98 school term are as
> follows :
>
>
> S'poreans Foreign students
>
> Non-lab courses 4,900 6,150
> Lab courses 5,450 6,800
> Medic and Dentistry 14,650 18,300
>
>
> Your friend is probably receiving a scholarship/loan of some kind.
Trust Mr Khor on this one. He's a highly
reliable admin and numbers man.
Submicron
Ng Farene @ Wu Wenli (art6...@leonis.nus.sg) wrote:
: I received the bill from NUS for Term 1 just the other day. I'm a
: Singaporean in ARTS, so no sympathy for me.
: = $2,450. Up $250. I anticipated that.
: My friend also received his bill. He's non-singaporean, but not in
: Science or Engineering, so not as much sympathy either.
: = $1,000. Now *THAT* I did not anticipate. I hear those in Science and
: Engineering are paying even less.
: I know the whole fee hike thing is supposed to have blown over but a
: difference of $1450?!?! Should there be a difference at all?!
: I'm the Singaporean here, right?! $1,450 *MORE* than foreign students?
: I don't know......somebody PLEASE tell me I'm wrong about this, COZ IT
: REALLY REALLY GETS TO ME.
: Farene
: art6...@leonis.nus.sg
i guess after all the fuss about fees, you STILL don't get the picture!
what are you doing in NUS ?
I am SBAGLK. Understand?
John Suppiah <succe...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>Kao Sze Chang wrote:
>>
>> : I'm the Singaporean here, right?! $1,450 *MORE* than foreign students?
>> : I don't know......somebody PLEASE tell me I'm wrong about this, COZ IT
>> : REALLY REALLY GETS TO ME.
>>
>> but but but but you can VOTE!
>> thats the proce to pay for your vote.
>>
>> the issue i think shouldnt be with foreign students, more of a huge admin
>> policy problem.
>>
>> i am ..... a singaporean too, and i know who i will vote for next GE.
>
>
>Why all the talk and complaint only, Bring this up to the ministry and
>ask them for an explantaion.
Yah right. You'll be lucky if they listen, strike Toto if they answer.
In the meantime also ask for why Power Supply charges $8.45 monthly to
maintain HDB refuse chute, hor. I asked before but no reply leh :)
Alamak. Wrong Ministry.
There must be a simpler explanation to the originator's post. I think
that foreign student is probably getting some kind of study loan
that's offsetting his tuition fee.
Ben Looi
See where apathy gets us? I too sympathise with you and many many other
fellow "non-lab" students. Now that the debates and letters to RADM Teo
and DPM Tony are over and done with, what else can we do but beat our
chests and cry?
What everyone, and not JUST students like you and me, should do is to
question ourselves and the Government on our status as SIngaporeans. So
what if I am a citizen? Does that penalise me in every sphere of my
everyday life? As a male citizen who served National Service for 2 and 1/2
years(and many more to come) , I ask myself "What Am I Defending?". I now
understand the army's maxim, Duty , Honour , Country... My Duty, Your
Honour, Their Country.
All we can do is suck our thumbs and await the next elections...or we can
be more pro-active in things that we do. One thing about the fee hike that
no one has questioned is whether it is constitutional. Whatever happened
to "BASED ON JUSTICE AND EQUALITY"? If we get unequal subsidies, then it
VIOLATES the CONSTITUTION. As Dr Kevin Tan puts it, "When good men fail,
the constitution is all we have."(Or something like that.)
What I'm trying to say is that we (read SINGAPOREANS) should start to take
stock on our own citizenship...our responsibilities, our rights, our
duties, our privileges..... if we are short changed, what are we going to
do? The ball's in our court, Farene. What do you want to do about it?
On 14 Sep 1997, Ng Farene @ Wu Wenli wrote:
> I received the bill from NUS for Term 1 just the other day. I'm a
> Singaporean in ARTS, so no sympathy for me.
>
> = $2,450. Up $250. I anticipated that.
>
> My friend also received his bill. He's non-singaporean, but not in
> Science or Engineering, so not as much sympathy either.
>
> = $1,000. Now *THAT* I did not anticipate. I hear those in Science and
> Engineering are paying even less.
>
> I know the whole fee hike thing is supposed to have blown over but a
> difference of $1450?!?! Should there be a difference at all?!
>
> I'm the Singaporean here, right?! $1,450 *MORE* than foreign students?
> I don't know......somebody PLEASE tell me I'm wrong about this, COZ IT
> REALLY REALLY GETS TO ME.
>
>
> Farene
> art6...@leonis.nus.sg
>
>
>
Jean Angus
substantial than posting your complaint on nus.announce?
MADCOW
My my, undergrads, wake up! Most of you didn't stand up for your very own
interests when the policy was announced, and now, you cry foul when you got
hurt? This is a typical Singaporean attitude; as long as it doesn't hurt my
pockets, who cares?
I have been an undergrad like you, and I know how you feel whenever you got
shut out of every policies they made; right from the burmuda's policies to
fee hike. You should blame yourself; though some of us fought hard, but we
were really disheartened by the pathetic and apathetic attitudes that our
fellow undergrads held; it was devastating. We protested, but no support
and worst, got lapdogs kowtowing to Adminstration pressures.
I shouldn't blame you, it is our fault, our seniors' fault and everyone's
fault that situation had become as such. The truth is, nobody cares
anymore. This is Singapore, and we are supposed to breed leaders and future
talents from this very instituition! As far as I am concerned, we are
heading for doom if we were to believe that the graduates are of better
genes and leaders will emerge from this; by the way, it happens that most
of our present leaders in politics had either foreign degree or doctorates.
Jean Angus <art7...@leonis.nus.sg> wrote in article
Laurens Chua
On 13 Oct 1997 11:19:35 GMT, sci5...@leonis.nus.sg (mikhael ewe)
wrote:
>To Farene, the reason u are paying so much more is because u did not took
>up the Tuition Fee Loan which amounted to about 80% of the total fee
>payable. For u're info, the foreign students' fee is 50% more than the
>Singaporeans'.
Not any more. If you are from NUS, you should know that the
government plans to reduce the difference to 20%. Tuition loan is up
till 70%, and not 80%. And that is at 2% interest _above_ bank prime
rates.
................... Laurens Chua <lau...@post1.com> ...................
................... http://www.post1.com/~laurens ...................
mikhael ewe
To Farene, the reason u are paying so much more is because u did not took
up the Tuition Fee Loan which amounted to about 80% of the total fee
payable. For u're info, the foreign students' fee is 50% more than the
Singaporeans'.
The Great Pretender
On 13 Oct 1997, MADCOW wrote:
> I have been an undergrad like you, and I know how you feel whenever you got
> shut out of every policies they made; right from the bermuda's policies
> to fee hike.
Hahahaah. Bermuda policy? Attire rules? Sure it exists on paper.
And yes, I still go to YIH for lunch, wearing shorts and slippers.
W.S. Leon
But a rule is a rule and a policy is a policy. Whether you choose to
ignore it or not, the "bermuda" policy still exists. Apart from
enjoying lunch in beach wear at Yusof Ishak Hall, have you ever dressed
in the same manner while attending lectures or working in the library?
Toh Hwee Meng Michael
W.S. Leon wrote:
>
>
> But a rule is a rule and a policy is a policy. Whether you choose to
> ignore it or not, the "bermuda" policy still exists. Apart from
> enjoying lunch in beach wear at Yusof Ishak Hall, have you ever dressed
> in the same manner while attending lectures or working in the library?
Aiyo... you people hor really dun appreciate all the efforts put in by the
admin to think up rules for undergrads to break. Actually they have good
intentions. As undergrads, we cannot afford to commit crinimal offences, so the
admin labors day and nite to think up venues for undergrads to commit offences and
thus relieve the stress of studying.
Over here at NTU, we have the same rule about attire. I am extremely thankful
to whoever think up this rule. I make it a point to attend every tutorials in
slippers and bermudas to try to evoke some emotions from my tutors but so far none
have said anything. You can't imagine how disappointed I am.
^_^ Ling
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Laurens Chua wrote:
> On 13 Oct 1997 11:19:35 GMT, sci5...@leonis.nus.sg (mikhael ewe)
> wrote:
>
> >To Farene, the reason u are paying so much more is because u did not took
> >up the Tuition Fee Loan which amounted to about 80% of the total fee
> >payable. For u're info, the foreign students' fee is 50% more than the
> >Singaporeans'.
>
> Not any more. If you are from NUS, you should know that the
> government plans to reduce the difference to 20%. Tuition loan is up
> till 70%, and not 80%. And that is at 2% interest _above_ bank prime
> rates.
I think you're wrong about the loan. It is up to 80% and *not subj to the
condition that states it cannot exceed the loan obtained by the previous
batch. Not sure abt the rate though. Thought it's still average of the
prime rates.
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(o.o) Ling :)
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