Adobe Premiere Pro Prores Raw
Manric Hock
Exporting to pro res proxy was an essential step for me when uploading files to vimeo. It preserved grain and a bunch of other details. Since I have moved to a windows based platform I have either lost or simply cant find the option to export to prores from my adobe premiere pro cc timeline ! Does anyone know how or a reasonable alternative to prores exporting ? Thank you.
On a Mac, on the export popup, under format: select quicktime. Ignore the presets because it's not there. Below, under the Video tab, is Video Codec, ProRes is under there. I think it's the same on Windows but it's been a while since I used a Windows machine.
No it isn't available in any Adobe product on Windows. Apple hasn't approved its use on Windows which is why it is not. Any software on windows that does offer it is doing so via a custom coded unapproved version of ProRes. Also the whole downscale to 10bit is an internet myth but there are gains in chroma sampling from downscaling.
DNxHD or DNxHR are one of the closest Prores equivalent export codecs in windows Adobe Premiere. If you are exporting for broadcast/ for a mac system, these .MXF formats are usually the most compatible. It's an AVID codec so any decent editor set up on a mac (or Linux) should have these installed on their machine already (if they are not already installed with edit software).
Third party encoders to wrap file in prores format can work - but take extra time to encode. IMHO Makes much more sense to use .MXF format if on windows machine for delivery format...and .h264 for offline proxies/ viewing copies etc.
i'll try out the cineform, I really REALLY appreciate the tip. I once heard on the net that cineform is about to be the new standard for mastering footage. Something about it being close to how they scan film ? Not sure but I hear its really really good ! Will report back with results
if you have the storage space, you could use whatever format you want to master in. But since you are on PC - you could export uncompressed .Avi as a master format as aaronchicago mentioned, this is how I used to do it- then spit out any compressed flavour of file from that file using AME. Find the best balance of file size vs quality for uploading or sharing. This may be Cineform, DNxHD whatever...but you will quickly find what works (regarding file size limits for upload).
I can personally recommend 10 or 8bit DNxHD masters for cross platform compatibility (Mac/pc playback) - as well as being compatible for uploading to Vimeo (as also previously stated in .mov wrapper). File sizes can be reduced to impressive amounts for the visual quality of the file. It is fair to say it is one of the closest formats to Prores on a PC...as it is so easy to select different quality settings (that are very similar to the prores presets) and without the ball ache of installing additional codecs if you ever needed the deliverable master file to be sent to a Mac based editor or broadcaster.
The .dpx offshoot format is still fairly commonly used for bringing in film scans, especially for visual effects and restoration work. Then those digital files can be outputted back to film or (more commonly now) kept in the digital realm for post production.
I have many old .dpx Cineon files of 35mm scans - from effects footage taken from the early 2000's. These .dpx files were usually 2k scans open gate - and considered the 'digital negative' or 'Master' (because they contain log data comparable to raw, but from film scan acquisition).
Cineform is now the new open standard for video acquisition and post production. Its not restricted by resolution, accepts multiple wrappers and supports 3D and RAW. It is much better supported across platforms (windows specifically) and it offers very efficient compressions.
took you guys advice and played with the cineform codec and WOW. I've never seen filmconvert grain render soooo...naturally ! Do you guys have recommended export settings for cineform ? I see a yuv 10 bit option and an rgb 12 bit with alpha channel option
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