Nominal9's Censorship Hall Of Shame

[nominal9]

http://www.lifeinitaly.com/heritage/superstition.asp

See.... Malocchio and Corno.... for reference


http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_thread/thread/b116...


Regrettably, I have to make a further entry in my "Nominal9
Censorship
Hall of Shame" and add at least one more name to my list of infamous,
Damned, Censors who are relegated to suffer an Eternity in Hell...
literally... with their Heads Stuck Up their Asses and with Shit for
Brains.


The new Lost Soul is the Moderator of the Political Forum on Google
Groups... screen-named... Cosmoraptor. I asked his true identity, but
his cowardice prevented him from even showing that modicum of courage
in the accepting responsibility of his moral fault.....


But he cannot hide from the truth of his Shame..... Damned For
Eternity to the Deep Pits of Hell... relegated to the Sixth Circle
to
suffer with the Heretics.... damned for his "presumption to parity
with God" also by the Devil Himself and through the Devil's own
means... the Malocchio of his own Envy and the downturned Corna del
malvaggio e del cornuto.....


http://web.eku.edu/flash/inferno/


So be it.... Cosmo.... brought it upon his (?) own head.....


nominal9

http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_thread/thread/8e3118db6e11ae82

NOMINAL9'S CENSORSHIP HALL OF "SHAME"


Censors are to Free speech and literature as Kapos are to Prison
Camps


Below is a list... to date... of pretty much the "mangy" censors and
the Neo-Nazi and Neo-Fascist internet sites where, yours truly,
nominal9 has been either censored out or downright "banned"..... And
I
bet y'all thought that the Stalinist / Maoist Communists or the Nazis
and Fascists were the only ones who stooped to such tactics of
ABRIDGING FREEDOM OF POLITICAL SPEECH AND EXPRESSION.... Well, think
again... The CENSORS ARE RIGHT HERE IN THE U.S. of A. ... AND ON THIS
INTERNET, TOO. Mostly they are on the Conservative right... I
submit
that even the "Political Correctness" crowd are actually Right-
Wingers.... they just lie about it.


CENSORING SYSOP......... BRAIN WASHING..........................
POLITICALLY
KAPOS..............................MESSAGE
BOARDS......................BOUGHT OFF ISPS


Dave Cunningham........................ Republican
Forum................ Compuserve


Richard Whaley............................Republican
Forum.................Compuserve


Jim Dellon....................................Political
Debate.....................Compuserve


?.................................................Democratic
Forum..................Compuserve


?.................................................Italian
Language.....................AOL


?.................................................Agnosticism
Board.................Yahoo


Alex Krislov..................................Books &
Writers ....................Compuserve
David Chiefetz..............................Books &
Writers......................Compuserve


curtisakelly..................................African
American.....................Compuserve
aka "Othello"


John Barreiro................................Language
Forum.....................Compuserve
Earle Robinson.............................Language
Forum.....................Compuserve


John Linendoll...............................World
Issues..........................Compuserve


I TELL YA... IF IT WERE UP TO ME..... THESE LOW-LIFE KAPOS AND THEIR
NEO-NAZI, NEO-FASCIST AUTOCRATIC 'SUPERIORS' AT THE 'CORPORATE'
LEVEL.... COME THE 'REVOLUTION'............ THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST
I' D PUT WITH THEIR BACKS TO THE WALL....


BUT, IN THE EVENT THAT THE "REVOLUTION" NEVER GETS HERE... IF ANY OF
Y'ALL HAPPEN TO BELIEVE IN AN "AFTERLIFE"... MAYBE THESE LOWLIFES
WILL
GET THEIR JUST DESERTS IN HELL... HOW ABOUT IF THEY WERE MADE TO
SUFFER ETERNITY "LITERALLY" IN THE SAME WAY THAT THEY "FIGURATIVELY"
WENT THROUGH LIFE.... WITH THEIR HEADS UP THEIR "ARSES" AND WITH
"FECES FOR BRAINS"????...... NOW THAT WOULD BE DIVINE
RETRIBUTION....IN MY OPINION..... WELL WORTH A PRAYER, EVEN FROM ME.


But what can be done in the "here and now"?..... Well, just bide my
words and head my caution about these lowlifes.... don't waste your
time or your breath with such snakes in the grass.....fore-warned is
fore-armed.... maybe pass the word... and if any of y'all can add to
this list of..... CENSORSHIP HALL OF "SHAME"... you may be doing
others (and me definitely) a favor by giving the "heads-up"....


NOMINAL9"


I must add the "Moderators" of the Google Groups "Mind's Eye" Message
Board to Nominal9"s Censorship Hall Of Shame". They are:
Craig Atkinson.... Group Owner
Chris Jenkins.... Moderator
Ian Pollard.... Moderator
Now, I personally, was not Censored or banned from Mind's Eye,
myself. But my advocacy of Free Speech with regards to other posters
(who were banned) was "politely" rebuffed by Mind's Eye Group Owner
Craig Atkinson and "bitchily" rebuked by Moderator Chris
Jenkins...Chris has appeared in my own linked thread, above, and is a
"dogged" proponent of Censorship.... a real figurative Neo-Nazi Kapo
in the Abridging Freedom Of Speech Prison Camp. Ian Pollard was
pretty
much silent on the issue....he just apparently "mousily" went along
to
get along....
So, it may seem to some that I am a bit too eager to condemn
these
particular Mind's eye Moderators to the punishments of Nominal9's
Censorship Hall of Shame. My Condemnation that they literally live an
Eternity In Hell as they have figuratively lived in life.... With
their Heads truly stuck up their Asses and with Shit for Brains....
But, in all truth, it is the appearance of "politeness" and
reasoned sadness that these Mind's Eye moderators have "feigned" in
Abridging the Freedom of Speech of others that merits their especial
condemnation.... It is their Lying Hypocrisy that carries their
Offense to an even higher level.... that of being "traitors" to their
own seeming words....
Like the three traitors, Brutus, Cassius and Judas Iscariot, these
three Mind's eye moderators deserve to be condemned to the lowest pit
of Hell.... the Ninth Circle, Fourth Round... each of them further
agonized by being masticated in th gaping maws of the three-headed
Lucifer, himself....
But then, I'm an agnostic.... I can't "know " that this will actually
happen.... just my hope...
nominal9

[Mercury]

Cosmo likes to post photos on forums of women having sex with animals,
TRUTH. Did he take the photo himself?


He is a very sick man, who clearly isnt one to be trusted or
respected.


He lives on a farm, (Those poor animals) I have thought about calling
The Animal Protection Services to be sure he isnt abusing any animals.




Now, what kind of people could respect such a "man" as Cosmo the
DICTATOR!



People with like minds of course.

On Oct 14, 10:56 am, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.lifeinitaly.com/heritage/superstition.asp
>
> See.... Malocchio and Corno.... for reference
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_thread/thread/b116...
>
> Regrettably, I have to make a further entry in my "Nominal9
> Censorship
> Hall of Shame" and add at least one more name to my list of infamous,
> Damned, Censors who are relegated to suffer an Eternity in Hell...
> literally... with their Heads Stuck Up their Asses  and with Shit for
> Brains.
>
> The new Lost Soul is the Moderator of the Political Forum on Google
> Groups... screen-named... Cosmoraptor. I asked his true identity, but
> his cowardice prevented him from even showing that modicum of courage
> in the accepting responsibility of his moral fault.....
>
> But he cannot hide from the truth of his Shame..... Damned For
> Eternity to the Deep Pits of Hell...  relegated to the Sixth Circle
> to
> suffer with the Heretics.... damned for his "presumption to parity
> with God" also by the Devil Himself and through the Devil's own
> means... the Malocchio of his own Envy and the downturned Corna del
> malvaggio e del cornuto.....
>
>  http://web.eku.edu/flash/inferno/
>
> So be it.... Cosmo.... brought it upon his (?) own head.....
>
> nominal9
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_thread/thread/8e31...

[nominal9]

Once again....Stalking is not allowed here. See rule #4:
http://groups.google.com/group/abc_politics_forum/web/political-forum...

On Oct 14, 9:52 am, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:


It appears that I have been officially Banned From Political Forum, by
Magcrest.....
Another of the Hell-Damned Souls in "Nominal9's Censorship Hall of
Shame"....She too refused to identify herself.... and more cowardly
still, sought even to conceal her status as a "manager underling" to
Cosmoraptor....
An Eternity in Hell for her, with her Head up her Ass and with Shit
for Brains... relegated to the Eight Circle ... Malebolge... of the
Fraudulent ... Eighth Round... the Deceivers...

http://web.eku.edu/flash/inferno/

nominal9

On Oct 14, 10:56 am, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.lifeinitaly.com/heritage/superstition.asp
>
> See.... Malocchio and Corno.... for reference
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_thread/thread/b116...
>
> Regrettably, I have to make a further entry in my "Nominal9
> Censorship
> Hall of Shame" and add at least one more name to my list of infamous,
> Damned, Censors who are relegated to suffer an Eternity in Hell...
> literally... with their Heads Stuck Up their Asses  and with Shit for
> Brains.
>
> The new Lost Soul is the Moderator of the Political Forum on Google
> Groups... screen-named... Cosmoraptor. I asked his true identity, but
> his cowardice prevented him from even showing that modicum of courage
> in the accepting responsibility of his moral fault.....
>
> But he cannot hide from the truth of his Shame..... Damned For
> Eternity to the Deep Pits of Hell...  relegated to the Sixth Circle
> to
> suffer with the Heretics.... damned for his "presumption to parity
> with God" also by the Devil Himself and through the Devil's own
> means... the Malocchio of his own Envy and the downturned Corna del
> malvaggio e del cornuto.....
>
>  http://web.eku.edu/flash/inferno/
>
> So be it.... Cosmo.... brought it upon his (?) own head.....
>
> nominal9
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_thread/thread/8e31...

[LESLIE DOYLE]

we all know you have to sell your souls to MAKE IT TO THE TOP

[Mercury]

we all know you have to sell your souls to MAKE IT TO THE TOP

 

 

 

 

I will always be on the bottom and proud of where I stand!

[nominal9]

Hello Mercury....
Nice to make your acquaintance.... Interesting things that you post
about Cosmoraptor.... I can't say whether or not they're true, but I
can't and won't call you a liar, either.... They come in all shapes
and disguises, these pieces of shit, don't they? Anyway, glad to be
among the "censored".... badge of honor... as I like to say. Maybe we
can have some fairly good discussions here...
nominal9

> > nominal9- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[LESLIE DOYLE]

we all know you have to sell your souls to MAKE IT TO THE TOP

I will always be on the bottom and proud of where I stand!

"the world will hate you as it hated Me"

[Mercury]

Hello Mercury....
Nice to make your acquaintance.... Interesting things that you post
about Cosmoraptor.... I can't say whether or not they're true, but I
can't  and won't call you a liar, either.... They come in all shapes
and disguises, these pieces of shit, don't they? Anyway, glad to be
among the "censored".... badge of honor... as I like to say. Maybe we
can have some fairly good discussions here...
nominal9

 

 

 

 

Hello Nominal,

 

 

Nice to meet you as well.

 

About Cosmo "the doggy porn king", unfortunately its true. Somethings you just cant make up.

 

 

Why dont you tell us a little bit about yourself? Where are you from?

 

 

 

 

[LESLIE DOYLE]

Nominal,

And your number one belief, what makes you, YOU

[Saint BEZARK]

Nice to make your acquaintance
=========

MadMerc can be vile but not as vile as her soulsister Perp.  She's a step up there, I am forced to admit reluctantly.

[Mercury]

Bez, Instead of hitting on Turtle and Richie, why don't you make a move on Perp?

[plainolamerican]

nominal9

fwiw - cosmofuckhead and magcunt are lying about only banning 3 people

perp, plainol, lew and many others have been banned
they think everyone forgets about their partisan injustices

furthermore - you'll find that if you prove them wrong or embarrass
them you will be banned

in general, they, like ABC's mods, will do anything to protect flaming
liberal socialists

be warned - mentioning my name is against their rules also

On Oct 14, 9:56 am, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.lifeinitaly.com/heritage/superstition.asp
>
> See.... Malocchio and Corno.... for reference
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_thread/thread/b116...
>
> Regrettably, I have to make a further entry in my "Nominal9
> Censorship
> Hall of Shame" and add at least one more name to my list of infamous,
> Damned, Censors who are relegated to suffer an Eternity in Hell...
> literally... with their Heads Stuck Up their Asses  and with Shit for
> Brains.
>
> The new Lost Soul is the Moderator of the Political Forum on Google
> Groups... screen-named... Cosmoraptor. I asked his true identity, but
> his cowardice prevented him from even showing that modicum of courage
> in the accepting responsibility of his moral fault.....
>
> But he cannot hide from the truth of his Shame..... Damned For
> Eternity to the Deep Pits of Hell...  relegated to the Sixth Circle
> to
> suffer with the Heretics.... damned for his "presumption to parity
> with God" also by the Devil Himself and through the Devil's own
> means... the Malocchio of his own Envy and the downturned Corna del
> malvaggio e del cornuto.....
>
>  http://web.eku.edu/flash/inferno/
>
> So be it.... Cosmo.... brought it upon his (?) own head.....
>
> nominal9
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_thread/thread/8e31...

[Mercury]

Do you ever wonder if Cosmo and CrustyOldHag are married?

[plainolamerican]

na - just knowing that they are owned by Bezturd is enough justice

[nominal9]

Nominal,

And your number one belief, what makes you, YOU / Leslie Doyle.....

It has to be "nominalism".... that's where the screen-name comes
from..... It's a fairly accepted... classic sort of philosophical or
epistemonological set of beliefs or notions... usually distinguished
from Idealism, Realism and Phenomenology... I can get into it in
greater depth, but don't want to bore you with it...
The one Nominalist Thinker that I like the most... my perhaps main
influence.... is William of Ockham, an English medieval "scholastic"
Franciscan monk....But my appreciation for "nominalism" isn't about
any actual individual ideas or beliefs that they hold....Instead it's
about the "way" that they think..... W.of Ockham, in particular, came
up with the distinction between Signs (or Vox=Words) of First
Intention and Signs (ditto) of Second Intention... for example Me, (or
you or anyone) as a single individual is the "thing" that can be
studied and experienced through the senses and through experiment as
Nominal9 ( (or Leslie or Mercury.. etc). The interaction of the
"Experiencer" with each individual "thing" is in the manner of an
interaction between the Experiencer's own "subjective" mind
(Conceptus /concept) and the actual outside thing ( Res / reference).
That is the Sign of First Intention... But then you can put all your
(thought) notions of similar but not completely identical individual
"experienced" people together and come up with the idea of "Man" or
"Woman" or simply "Homo Sapien"... Mankind.... Now there is no actual
single "thing" in particular that corresponds to any of those "Man" or
"Woman" or simply "Homo Sapien"... Mankind, but just a word that
represents a bunch of ideas (concepts) or even of generally shared
physical features (references) common to most or all particular
individuals Nominal9 ( (or Leslie or Mercury.. etc).... things.That is
the Sign of Second Intention....
In biology these Sign separations (First and Second) of W.of Ockham
pretty much resulted in the distinctions in "classification" between
the Individual , the Species and the Genus.....for example...
But if you want to "think" about it these sorts of "classification"
distinctions.... the First intention experienced Individual "thing" as
distinguished from the Second Intention mind abstracted generalized...
so-called... Universal can be used to apply to most of everything....

There, have you had enough?
nominal9

On Oct 14, 1:08 pm, LESLIE DOYLE <lesju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nominal,
>
> And your number one belief, what makes you, YOU
>

> On 10/14/09, Mercury <kevys...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Hello Mercury....
> >> Nice to make your acquaintance.... Interesting things that you post
> >> about Cosmoraptor.... I can't say whether or not they're true, but I
> >> can't  and won't call you a liar, either.... They come in all shapes
> >> and disguises, these pieces of shit, don't they? Anyway, glad to be
> >> among the "censored".... badge of honor... as I like to say. Maybe we
> >> can have some fairly good discussions here...
> >> nominal9
>
> > Hello Nominal,
>
> > Nice to meet you as well.
>
> > About Cosmo "the doggy porn king", unfortunately its true. Somethings you
> > just cant make up.
>

> > Why dont you tell us a little bit about yourself? Where are you from?- Hide quoted text -

[nominal9]

Nice to meet you, plainolamerican,
"perp, plainol, lew and many others have been banned"..."be warned -
mentioning my name is against their rules also" / plainolamerican.
Well, for what it may be worth, as a heads up if nothing else... I
tend to lean to the "left" myself... and I was banned as well. I do
have to say, though, that I tend to hold to fairly conventional
"moral" of "ethical" values, so maybe in that sense I can definitely
see how I could have rubbed a so-called True Liberals the wrong
way....which I most definitely did. What upsets me a bit about that
whole experience over there is the way that many of them just straight
out "lied" about my positions... Saint Stronzo with TIG, there, got
right-wing reactionary and started lying and seeking to haze me about
being "gay"... which I'm not.... and almost in the same breath.. along
comes the left-wing reactionaries ... foremost California Luis... and
he starts lying and bashing me from the other side by calling me an
anti-gay homophobe... when I had just posted and bashed Tig and Saint
Strozo as Homophobes and Bigots, themselves....
Saint Stronzo, there, is apparently just a buffoon, who lives to rile
and antagonize, as an amusement.... I feel a bit "betrayed" by
California Luis, though..... I had thought he was a "serious"
person..... Ah well, people are people, beyond their "politics"....
Ethics and Morals don't follow with political affiliation, I've come
to find, plainolamerican....
So, if we do get to discuss things on this or other boards....we
probably will disagree on the "issues", but maybe we can agree on some
of the "manners" (?).
nominal9

On Oct 15, 1:18 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Mercury]

Cosmo banned you? lol

 

 

Cosmo is a power hungry pig, He is a communist and if you dont stay within his "thinking" he bans you. His "concubine" Magcrest has the same shallow mind, I think who ever stays in that hell hole becomes one of the same. Its good that you were banned, It means you are THINKER as you clearly have demonstrated.

 

 

I should be surprised with California Luis, But Im not really, He is weak and needs to follow the laws of Cosmo in order to feel accepted as a person.  Isnt that sad, The NEED for acceptance is so great, That  you feel a need to give up your own soul. 

[nominal9]

Yes Mercury...
Actually Magcrest did the actual banning. It was a matter of time,
when I saw the "Banned Members" entry on their HomePage, though... I
really Despise Censors and Censorship ... don't want to be associated
with them....As for Cosmo and Magcrest.... don't know that much about
them personally... just that they're "willing" Censors... and that's
more than enough for me to relegate them to Hell (I'm an Agnostic,
don't say for a fact that there is a Hell or God or other... but the
depth of my judgment and aversion to Censors and Censorship is
stronger than even the Hell metaphor conveys).

Anyway, like I said before, nice to met you. I agree with your
evaluation.... certain people don't have much to offer or "share" in
conversation or mutual interchange....no loss in discarding the ones
who already "think" they know more or enough to keep others from even
"talking"... Let them Live in Ignorance, I say... Not much you can do
with a Jackass .. except maybe hit him (or her) off the side of the
head with a Two-By-Four and send them on their way.... Just another
metaphor, by the way, I'm not into animal cruelty.... Maybe Censor
"Punishment" I can abide, though, Censors should be able to "know
better" than the poor dumb animals....
nominal9

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[plainolamerican]

don't know that much about
them personally... just that they're "willing" Censors... and that's
more than enough for me to relegate them to Hell

---
very good!

they're lying scum that only mindless flaming liberals are attracted
to

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[magcrest]

LIAR...I wish I had.

On Oct 15, 2:42 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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[Mercury]

LIAR...I wish I had.

 

 

 

 

Says the NAZI queen that cant even vote yet dictates free speech on a Political Message board!

 

 

 

 

[Mercury]

Heres a question for you..


Why does your mind work the way it does, is it genes, knowledge,
environmental factors, experience all the above?


What makes you, YOU(Deep thinker) and Cosmo, Cosmo(Shallow thinker)?
Why cant everyone be a free thinker? I think its fear that holds
people back from breaking out of the box, Fear of being labeled as
different.



I studied mind control for over a year(I was intrigued by how weak the
mind is) My brother had just retired from the Marine Corp, and he was
like a Marine zombie that couldn't think straight(I wanted to help him
or maybe I wanted to understand him)...I know the Marine Corp uses
brainwashing techniques, They have to, its not normal to kill another
person, we aren't animals(most of us aren't anyways, But the Marine
Corp "trains" a man to be a killing machine)



How did we land up in Iraq? FEAR, The government used the media to put
FEAR into peoples minds, It works. Look at how fearful people are over
the swine flu! My God, the damn swine flu is milder than the seasonal
flu, But Pharma needs to make some money and they have a product to
sell....Last year it was the bird flu, this year the swine flu, next
year it will be the duck flu! People DIE from adverse reactions to
drugs every minute. 100,000 die just in the US from adverse reactions
to drugs this doesnt include drug errors.....How do we know the deaths
are not from the Tamiflu. Doctors here in the US are not good at
reporting ADR's, they are actually very poor at reporting ADR's, The
FDA reported that less than 10% of ADR's ever get reported.



Alarming deaths of Tamiflu patients - FDA to investigate
20. November 2005 15:44


The U.S. Food and Drug Administration are investigating the deaths of
12 children in Japan who took Roche's flu-fighting drug Tamiflu.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/11/20/14541.aspx

[plainolamerican]

he was
like a Marine zombie that couldn't think straight

---
he had a choice
some people ...

> ...
>
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[Mercury]

he was
like a Marine zombie that couldn't think straight

---
he had a choice
some people ...

 

 

Yes, it was his choice

 

But he was still brainwashed

[nominal9]

LIAR...I wish I had / magcrest

Are you saying that you did not "ban" me from the DAMNED FOR ETERNITY
WITH THEIR HEADS UP THEIR ASSES AND WITH SHIT FOR BRAINS politics
forum board? Below is your "post', magcrest, that appeared just before
I was locked out....

Once again....Stalking is not allowed here. See rule #4:
http://groups.google.com/group/abc_politics_forum/web/political-forum...

/magcrest.

It seems obvious to me that if you did not "ban" me personally
(magcrest) then you very likely knew about it or even participated in
that decision process. And where the Hell did YOU and/or your SHIT-
BRAINED, TWO-BY FOUR WHACKED OUT JACKASS fellow censor come up with
that "stalking" charge rationale?... Nah.. you're both in Hell, like
you deserve to be, in my book....
nominal9

[LESLIE DOYLE]

magcrest why don't i meet up with your standards

what is my main character flaw

[nominal9]

That's a very involved and thought-provoking post, Mercury....
I won't even presume to suggest to you that I have any of the
answers.... here's something that I can suggest to you that I do
believe I know.... when it comes to interchanges between People, in
"doing", through suggested courses of action, there are different
"roles" that the various "participants" in those interchanges
assume....
I call those "roles"the following

Agent = the person(s) who suggests that a specific course of action be
performed or carried out, for given motive or reason.

Patient= the person(s) who actually performs or carries out the course
of action, for given reason or motive.

Recipient= the person(s) who receive the effect of the performed or
carried out course of action, for given motive or reason.

Prompter= the person who, although not a participant at first, feels
obliged to somehow intervene in a performed or carried out course of
action.

In the case of you and your brother's Marine Corps "experiences"....
the Corps was the "Agent" that told your brother what course of
action to perform or carry out (under their own motive or
reason)....your brother was the "Patient" who carried out his course
of action directions, probably under "order" (accepting also the given
motive or reason). The "Recipient(s)" of those courses of action
performed by your brother as a Marine are the people that he may have
been ordered to act against in his capacity as a soldier. You,
Mercury, I say are coming into this situation in the role of a
"Prompter"... there's something about your brother's Marine
experiences that you don't like or agree with and that you would like
to change or remedy. even though you actually aren't or weren't
directly involved in any of yourMrine brother's "ordered" courses of
action (or the motives and reasons therefor).

Now, this is not a question of Psychology... I won't try to say which
course of action (or motive or reason, therefor) was "right" or
"proper"... that's for every single person to decide... But just as a
matter of possible choice... each "role" has possible alternatives or
decisions that it can take... and sometimes those choices or decisions
are restricted or outside of one's own control, depending on the
"role".

Here's what you said in your post... Mercury...

)...I know the Marine Corp uses
brainwashing techniques, They have to, its not normal to kill another
person, we aren't animals(most of us aren't anyways, But the Marine

Corp "trains" a man to be a killing machine) / Mercury

The thing is, soldiers are definitely "trained" to be killing
machines... but maybe that isn't always the wrong thing to do?... a
little discrimination... differentiation... may apply. Let me suggest
some possible alternatives for you....
MOTIVE..............................COURSE OF ACTION
A. National Defense / Kill Aggressor Enemy.
B. National Defense / Kill Innocent Inhabitant.
C. Invasion or Expansion for Profit / Kill Aggresor Enemy
D. Invasion or Expansion for Profit / Kill Innocent Inhabitant
Now, I just made those alternatives up, myself, if you think thast
there are other motives or courses of action applicable to the case
that you have in mind... please identify them yourself, but also try
to think of their "contraries or contradictories", too, to balance out
the question. Now, in those course of action (and motive) "choices"
that I suggested above would you say that some are more "right" than
others?... and which do you think applied to the case of the U.S
Marine Corps in general (without getting to the particular case of
your brother) in these recent years, what with 9/11, Afghanistan,
Iraq, etc.?

There's something called Artistotle's Square of Logical
opposition....Where you can place these Motives and Courses of Action
in relation to each other. either as "diametrically opposed" or as on
partly opposed through contradiction...Here's how I believe the four
"choices" above would align up....

A.______________________D.



B.______________________C.


Anyway... depending on what you judged to be important in the
situation under consideration... you could say..... The Marine Corps
as Agents suggested a "wrong" course of action concerning the Motive
or the Course of Action or Both... My Marine brother As Patient did
the "wrong" thing in agreeing to do as the Marine Corps "ordered"...
he either should not have joined or he should have disobeyed orders
for reasons of (illegality,conscience or whatever). The Marine Corps
or my brother did something "wrong" in carrying out the "motivated
course of action" in that he or they "victimized" a recipent either
by action or by motivated reason.
As Prompter, I heard about what my brother or the Marine Corps in
general did in certain motivated courses of action and, although I had
not direct part in it, I think some action was definitely "wrong"
and should be changed there.
Here's the restrictions. As Recipient, the party has no choice
whatsoever in the received action, and can only speak to the
motivation underlying it... As Prompter, the party has no choice
whatsoever in the motivation of the course of action but can only
speak to the course of action itself... of course, the roles can
change almost instantaneously (even for the same person or
character)... up until the course of action is actually carried out.


I doubt that All of this makes sense to you... there's a lot of
"stuff"... but if you want to continue this discussion.... maybe you
can specify one piece of the whole at a time.... bit by bit....

By the way, I haven't even broached the "lies" problem.... where
people are not actually honest in relaying their true motivations or
actual courses of action.... That gets into a whole other level of
complication... doable, though.
nominal9

[Cosmoraptor]

Retard babble. How charming.

[LESLIE DOYLE]

You are THE MAN



On 10/16/09, Cosmoraptor <cosmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Retard babble. How charming.
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> >
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[nominal9]

You ain't got cover here... you Shit-headed, born out the wrong hole
(as out the Ass-hole) son of a bitch dog. Now go back to Hell, you and
your "crew" of like-minded Psycophant Cronies.... And A' fa'n culo....
which means... "go take it up the ass"... ( preferably wioth a sharp
object... like a broken bottle or the like) and that's not a
"homophobic comment".... just a generally, culturally accepted epithet
directed at the worst of the worst... in some circles.
nominal9

[nominal9]

Psycophant ? I guess I was trying to combine Psycho and and
Sycophant... I like it.
nominal9

> > Retard babble. How charming.- Hide quoted text -

[Cosmoraptor]

Who's this crazed faerie?

[LESLIE DOYLE]

It is UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[LESLIE DOYLE]

Cosmo how did you become gay, it just comes natural doesn't it

we accept you