MS in cyber law and security

[amey dandekar]

Hello nulls,

 

This is my first post. I wanted to enquire about the MS course IMT Ghaziabad offering in cyber security. Is it worth doing it?

 

here is the website of the same www.imtcdl.ac.in/

 

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[Vinit Patil]

hi
just checked ur said link.personally i think u should be cautious joining any program where fadia is involved.

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[sandeep...@gmail.com]

The Cyber Law part covered by NLU Jodhpur is nice and worth doing but ...

Security part covered by IMT which is prepared by Fadia is useless...

You can do it if you are looking for a nice Degree only as the MS Degree is given by NLU Jodhpur

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[Rohit Salecha]

@vinit

I am new to security community. But I have observed people are quite prejudiced about fadia. Any specific reason ?

Rohit R. Salecha
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On Dec 30, 2012 12:16 PM, "Ajin Abraham" <aji...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

    Have a look at MTech in Cyber Security from Amrita University : http://targetstudy.com/courses/mtech-cyber-security.html

Regards,

Ajin Abraham,
Information Security Enthusiast,
www.ajinabraham.com
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Check M.Tech CSIS : http://www.iiit.ac.in/academics/programmes/postgraduate/mtechcsis

http://cstar.iiit.ac.in/prog.html

 

The program is top notch.

 

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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Ajin Abraham <aji...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

    Have a look at MTech in Cyber Security from Amrita University : http://targetstudy.com/courses/mtech-cyber-security.html

Regards,

Ajin Abraham,
Information Security Enthusiast,
www.ajinabraham.com
www.keralacyberforce.in

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:56:43 UTC-8, ameya wrote:

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[nithin kumar]

check this,

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[Ritesh Agrawal]

Fadia .... LoL ... Dont want to waste valuable time to discuss about him 

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@rohit see http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ankit_fadia/

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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Rohit Salecha <salech...@gmail.com> wrote:

[hemant mittal]

Hello Folks,

 

let me put some lights about IMT Course

 #1. Apart from Ankit there are few tremendous adjunct faculties into this IMT Program like Prince Komal and Manu,.

#2. The course material is not having any worth. Better material you can be get from CEH in case of technical framework. for legal perspective - is quite good.

#3. As matter of worth, mine understanding is how your opinion towards programs, what is your understanding towards program and how your approach in making it usable.

 

But in case of investing 1,00,000 lac money, I would better say to invest the money to approach technical level certification from E-Council, SANS, ISACA, ISC2 Programs. Which help & worth for you in your career parth.

 

Regards,

Hemant

[Deepak Rathore]

I have completed MTech in Information Security & Ethical Hacking.

I wasted 2+ yr to complete that silly degree and I didn't get any useful info by this degree.

I learned everything in my job.

I got my job from exatra preparation and activities.

Information Security depends on knowledge and you can learn actual knowledge in a good company environment with a good team.

So do not waste your time.

you can do any 2-3 months short team course and join any info sec company and learn there alot about info sec and ethical hacking.

After 2 yr you will learn more than a ms or mtech person and you can earn also.

Regards-----

Deepak Rathore

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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Harry <harish...@gmail.com> wrote:

Check MS Cyber Laws and Information Security program offered at IIITA. It isn't the best, but compared to the other institutes specified here it's better. Also do check the MTECH Information Security program offered at IIIT Hyderabad.

Thanks,

Harish

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[santosh kumar]

I agree with Deepak Rathore comments.

I have completed B.Tech and having 2yrs of experience in Web-app pentest. Currently I am guiding few interns who completed their M.Tech [infosec & cyber forensics].

All the time those students complain about their college. They have state of the art labs in their college. but there is no apt faculty to teach them. Its the case with most of the colleges.

If any one interested in doing infosec courses through distance then you can consider IGNOU's PG diploma in information security. Course content is very good. covering all the aspects of security. [ Web-app security, network security,ISO-27K,BCP/DR,CYBER laws]. Course fee is also less - 16K per year. you can do this while you are working. Even as part of the course we need to submit a dissertation during the second semister.

Most of the M.Tech [infosec] course are filled up with cryptography.protocols. None of the course is giving the best employability chances. If you have interest towards research then you can opt. Even subjects like "Virus Writing" is completely all about automata theory. in fact you would not be writing any viruses after the completion of the course.

options for regular masters are

1) M.S [cyber law and infosec] - IIIT-A
2) M.TECH [info sec] - IIT-G
3) M.TECH [IS]- IIIT-H
4) M.TECH [IS] - IIIT-D
5) M.TECH [IS] - NIT-W
6) M.S [Cyber law and infosec] -NLUT,Bhopal
7) M.Tech[IT] with specialization in Banking Technology & Information Security - HCU,hyd
8) M.Tech[IS& forensics]-SRM
9) M.Tech[Cyber Security] - Amirta

But don't get cheated by program names like cyber security, forensics. Ultimately the knowledge matters rather than the degree.

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B.Tech.,(PGPFSST-LIBA).

 

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On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:46 AM, santosh kumar <santo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree with Deepak Rathore comments.

I have completed B.Tech and having 2yrs of experience in Web-app pentest. Currently I am guiding few interns who completed their M.Tech [infosec & cyber forensics].

All the time those students complain about their college. They have state of the art labs in their college. but there is no apt faculty to teach them.

Well, its not really the college/curriculum's fault now, is it? If spoon-feeding-based-learning is expected they might want to consider something else to do.

Please don't get me wrong -- I'm not an advocate of college-oriented-learning either, but the purpose of the curriculum in colleges is based on different goals. Try out the online courses offered by Stanford on cryptography, functional programming or anything else and you can notice the difference -- its the rigorous way in which something is dissected that imparts learning at a deeper level.

Of course, different people have different interests and different ways of learning and while I would personally never go for an MS(as I'm mostly self-taught and prefer it to stay that way) I wouldn't make a generic statement such as "MS/MTech courses are useless for pentesting jobs". Its not the course that makes a difference but what you do with it.

I was lucky to be at a college where we had awesome labs -- a bunch of us took the opportunity to use those labs to take part in CTFs and host them too while majority among us did not. Its about what you do with the resources that you have. I really dont know how far a person can progress in this field expecting to be taught.

On the other hand I have strong opinions against certain certifications that are commonly taken -- I would personally never judge a person based on the certifications they possess.

 

But don't get cheated by program names like cyber security, forensics. Ultimately the knowledge matters rather than the degree.

+1.

[maanav]

Before I bore the mailing list with my rant/rave, let me put myself in proper perspective here:-

 

I am a compliance professional, don’t have a degree (rather a diploma), have a certification, have around 7 years of experience (a combination of dev+infosec+SSDLC process), and am learning technical ropes now (webappsec, for example).

 

My 2 cents:-

 

1.       I agree that PG degrees would not matter much on the face of experience;

2.       However, keeping the education institutions in mind, the time is not far away when a PG in information security is going to be a criteria for promotion and perks; case in exception being security researchers; my hunch, however, is that they are going to be in minority and the rest of us will have to push ourselves as security implementers/auditors in one form or the other (e.g., firewall administrator, ISMS implementer, Auditor, network security administrator, etc.)

a.       Even security researchers / penetration testers will have to prove themselves by proper certifications (OSCP, for example)

3.       There are courses (both in India and abroad, e.g., IGNOU Diploma & Royal Holloway, University of London being some examples).

4.       I think, the best bet for professionals is

a.       Not to ignore certifications or PG courses as they will have an impact if you want to move further up

b.      Pursue distance education as they offer the blend of experience and advanced education.

 

In short - till academicians didn’t come up with infosec related courses, it was ONLY experience and NILL degree that was the norm. Now, experience WITH degree is going to be the norm because we have academic inputs (read courses).

 

Regards

Sripati

www.sripati.info

[Anupam T]

Try doing courses frm gfsu..gujrat forensics...offers similar courses

On Dec 30, 2012 12:15 PM, "Vinit Patil" <patil.sw...@gmail.com> wrote:

hi
just checked ur said link.personally i think u should be cautious joining any program where fadia is involved.

On Dec 30, 2012 11:28 AM, "amey dandekar" <ameya...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello nulls,
>  

> Thi...

[Aditya Vignesh Ram K]

Hello all,

I too am planning to do an MS , I want to do in US or UK. But US is too expensive, and UK is ok for me. Royal Holloway Univ in UK is offering a course in Information Security. Is it good . But UK is having only one year courses.

And India is my last resort, SRM, VIT and Amirta Univ are offering same courses.
As i'm from south i prefer those.

Please put in your suggestions for me.

(P.S. I work in the field of Information security industry now ( Trainer ) :P )

[Fehinto fedora]

In my own word, having a career part in the fields on Security you need a good mentor. Online materials cant really help a beginning, after a good foundation has been made by your instructor and the professional aspect of the training then you are fit to work and able to do more research. Google is our friend we can get as much as we want from it, learning all could take alot of time, but learning from experience professional is a good starting point with limited time. There are several places which offer the courses, i did mine from IIS institute of Information Security Mumbai. There i was groomed to be a professional, i had a good training , not only information security but was taught some ethics too.I learnt from real world scenarios, we did live projects. I had love to further for masters in information security , having gone through some schools brochure is just a repetition of what i have done. Just make good findings about where to do the training cause once the foundation is faulty there is nothing you will build on.