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This has also impacted my Oncologist site and even though it was working fine 2-3 hrs ago, now it’s not working at all.
I thought there was a benefit using the cloud?
Rick.
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Enough of these and maybe people will realize that the cloud isn’t the end-all-be-all of computing existence.
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Yes, we’re affected by it. Some emails are going through, others not, and some come through but with a weirdly long lag between when they show up in message trace and when they hit Outlook. Your email to this list showed in my inbox (per message trace) 10-15 minutes before it appeared in my Outlook client, despite hitting F9 or restarting the app entirely.
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The Cloud First/Cloud Native push started in 2008 with BPOS.
The horrible service in the public cloud was “justified” because “we’re just setting this up so there’s be a few issues to begin with”.
Heh … it’s 2025 and those issues have only gotten worse.
Me thinks the AI Revolution isn’t what the marketing folks want us to believe it means. :P
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Before then.
We called it “ASP” (Application Service Providers) back in the day. 😊
I offered hosted Exchange with an admin console based on Exchange 2003. We also offered hosted web sites (IIS and Linux) and hosted VPS’ (virtual private servers). And of course, we would co-lo servers all day long. Great profit margin on that.
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We started into hosting with SPLA, IIRC, using Virtual Server 2005 R2 Enterprise Edition. It may have been an earlier version.
That’s way back and the grey matter has had a continual snowstorm. 😉
And yes, hosting was, and still is very profitable when done right.
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Not having any Proofpoint issues.
I’ve also got lots of clients on Mimecast and no one has complained to me (but that doesn’t mean it’s up).
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Evidently it’s not resolved yet. My message below took nearly an hour from the time I sent it to appear in this list.
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I heard on CNN that it was resolved but the sites I need to chat with are not up….yet. Maybe later today as buffers empty.
Rick
We’re not having any issues nor clients complaining here either. Proofpoint
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And that was in 2021….redundancy…? Who needs stinking redundancy….?....it’s the internet….it’ll never go down. Right after we update it to 256meg of RAM. And what year was that?
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They’re saying it was triggered by DNS issues: AWS outage cause: It’s always DNS, but sometimes it’s...
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“Someone else’s” computer can crash just like your on-prem computer.
But since thousands/millions/billions(?) depend upon it, it’s a lot worse.
I remember our experiment in using DHCP failover along with the multiple DCs with DNS that had static IPs assigned.
It turned out that the DHCP service didn’t behave they way I expected it do when the service locked up on one of the partners. The other would just sit there doe eyed and we’d lose our clusters.
After troubleshooting things we ditched DHCP and went back to static IPs for everything and nary an issue since.
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“Sorry we deleted the HOSTS file everybody”
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Holy smokes that brought out some PTSD! :D
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I’ve been around so long that I remember when the “all Internet hosts file” was distributed daily by UUCP.
“rm /etc/hosts” could cause many many screams.
Woah, really?
The HOSTS file was DNS?
Yeah, I could see that being a single point of failure but don’t tell Amazon that!
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Yeah, DNS wasn’t released until 1983 and it took a while for it to be widespread. And back then the Internet was a whole bunch of networks that weren’t all interconnected very well or very often.
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I thought the hosts file was needed (as a last resort) for the machines to operate and that the file was always “in use” and couldn’t easily be removed?
But what do I know….
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In my experience, that was true later.
At least in the early 80’s the hosts file was read by a statically linked “resolv.lib” for each program that needed IP resolution.
When shared libraries came around and the hosts file was cached – what you say was absolutely true. And resolv.lib gained DNS capabilities and the hosts file was accessed only as a last resort.
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Yikes! I can imagine! Modern technology allows the same interruption but in new, more novel ways! I took a network routing class waaay back when and it mainly taught me to
be amazed the Internet even works.
A dizzying number of ways to kill propagation.
Dave
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