LOL - and yet tears of sadness and rage
Kurt Buff
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Philip Elder
We had a partner have their accounts and lines of credit drained.
Me: Do you use the same password everywhere?
Them: Yes
Me: Did you enable the bank’s challenge questions (at that time before app 2FA)
Them: No
Me: Did you change the password?
Them: Yes
Me: Is it completely different?
Them: Um, not really
Me: Here’s KeePass let me train you on it.
Them: Okay
A couple months later, I asked them if they were updating all of their web site passwords using the KeePass generator and enabling 2FA across the board.
Nope.
The bank refunded their accounts though. I’m not sure that’s the prescription for fixing the PEBKAC issue.
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Wright, John M
PEBKAC, sure, but here’s the thing: People have a lot of accounts.
We have people in direct care who have a half-dozen accounts that presumably should have a half-dozen passwords, all of them suitably long and/or complex.
Then they have personal accounts. This morning, I downloaded to my phone the remote app for a TV (it doesn’t have a physical remote). It required me to sign on with an account. Why do I need an account to change channels or volume? Don’t know.
Anyway, I can tell people: Use password keeper. They say, OK, and sign up for Lastpass (or whatever). When that gets compromised, then what do I tell them?
I’m just saying that passwords are a problem, no matter what people do.
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Philip Elder
Yeah, we don’t do cloud for sensitive stuff just because of the big compromises therein but also because the RMMs have been too.
So, we stick with on-premises. That mitigates a bit of the exposure.
Either way one errant click and done.
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