Network Location Awareness Service
Joe Powers
Hi All
Today I came across something new to me. I had a workstation boot up and noticed the wired network getting assigned as a public network instead of a domain network with all the follow on connectivity problems due to the Defender Firewall. Ok, no problem, I’ve seen that happen from time to time. My usual solution is to restart the Network Location Awareness Service using the services GUI as administrator. This always prompts a dialog letting me know the Network List Service will also restart. I acknowledge that and the 2 services stop and then restart. The network is then assigned as a domain network and all is well.
Not Today.
Today, it fails and says it can’t stop the Network List Service due to a dependency. Trying again then fails with “Error 1061: The Service Cannot Accept Control Messages at This Time”.
Huh…….., so I go to 3 other workstations and try to restart the NLA service and experience the same issue at each one. This is new behavior to me.
As restarting the NLA is not usually destructive could someone else verify that they have the same issue and if anyone knows if there is a solution I’m all ears.
Thanks !!
Joe Powers
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Joe Powers
No recent changes to DHCP and all is good there anyway
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Philip Elder
Usually not a problem on a desktop machine.
We run the following on _all_ serves we deploy in an elevated CMD as part of our SOP setup routine:
# Delay the Network Location Awareness Service
sc config "NlaSvc" start= delayed-auto
The network stack can sometimes take too much time to get initialized before NLA does its poll.
On laptops, this could be because the WiFi NIC vendor has their management driver software setup running in there which can cause delays on getting the stack initialized. It can sometimes interfere with wired connections as well. Our setup images are driver only as a rule no management UI on top.
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Hi All
Today I came across something new to me. I had a workstation boot up and noticed the wired network getting assigned as a public network instead of a domain network with all the follow on connectivity problems due to the Defender Firewall. Ok, no problem, I’ve seen that happen from time to time. My usual solution is to restart the Network Location Awareness Service using the services GUI as administrator. This always prompts a dialog letting me know the Network List Service will also restart. I acknowledge that and the 2 services stop and then restart. The network is then assigned as a domain network and all is well.
Not Today.
Today, it fails and says it can’t stop the Network List Service due to a dependency. Trying again then fails with “Error 1061: The Service Cannot Accept Control Messages at This Time”.
Huh…….., so I go to 3 other workstations and try to restart the NLA service and experience the same issue at each one. This is new behavior to me.
As restarting the NLA is not usually destructive could someone else verify that they have the same issue and if anyone knows if there is a solution I’m all ears.
Thanks !!
Joe Powers
160 Elmview Avenue, Hamburg, NY 14075 │ USA
Office - 716.312.0088 ext. 135 │ Mobile - 716.698.2831 | Fax - 716.312.0028
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Joe Powers
Yes. I’m still able to restart NLA on 2012R2, just not on W10. I also do set all servers to delayed start. I am aware that it is also possible to add a dependency for DNS, but have not done that. The servers are not having an issue after setting delayed start.
I’m really interested in whether this is reproducible by others or is it unique to my domain.
Joe Powers
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Micheal Espinola
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Miller, Jon
Seeing it on 21H2 Enterprise. I also noticed that my machines that upgraded from Win10 to Win11 have NLA set to manual and not started.
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Rick McClure
So how does one uninstall NLA? This has been bugging some of us for too long.
TIA,
Rick.
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I can confirm this now happens on Microsoft Windows 10 Home (10.0.19044.1889)
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Roberts, James
We had this issue with our current VPN solution and it was random when it would not switch. Applying the registry fixed our issues completely. Before this we used a batch file to remove the dependencies, stop the services, add the dependencies back and start the service.
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So how does one uninstall NLA? This has been bugging some of us for too long.
TIA,
Rick.
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I can confirm this now happens on Microsoft Windows 10 Home (10.0.19044.1889)
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 9:28 AM Joe Powers <jppo...@khindustries.com> wrote:
Hi All
Today I came across something new to me. I had a workstation boot up and noticed the wired network getting assigned as a public network instead of a domain network with all the follow on connectivity problems due to the Defender Firewall. Ok, no problem, I’ve seen that happen from time to time. My usual solution is to restart the Network Location Awareness Service using the services GUI as administrator. This always prompts a dialog letting me know the Network List Service will also restart. I acknowledge that and the 2 services stop and then restart. The network is then assigned as a domain network and all is well.
Not Today.
Today, it fails and says it can’t stop the Network List Service due to a dependency. Trying again then fails with “Error 1061: The Service Cannot Accept Control Messages at This Time”.
Huh…….., so I go to 3 other workstations and try to restart the NLA service and experience the same issue at each one. This is new behavior to me.
As restarting the NLA is not usually destructive could someone else verify that they have the same issue and if anyone knows if there is a solution I’m all ears.
Thanks !!
Joe Powers
160 Elmview Avenue, Hamburg, NY 14075 │ USA
Office - 716.312.0088 ext. 135 │ Mobile - 716.698.2831 | Fax - 716.312.0028
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