Stupid little annoying thing

[Kurt Buff]

For *!years!* I've used 'shutdown -r -t 0' to reboot machines.

In the past couple of weeks it stopped working. Inside of a cmd/powershell session it would emit help and indicate I needed to enter a reason code, and wouldn't accept anything. If I used Win+r to issue the command, it just didn't work.

After a bit of experimentation, I found that 'shutdown -r -t 1' works, which is fine, but why the change?

Win10 22H2 mostly, but also seen on Server 2019.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Kurt

[Steve Stewart]

PowerShell

restart-computer “computer name”, “another name”, etc -force 

The -force is useful where a restart fails because someone is logged on etc

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[Gordon Pegue]

On a couple of my W10 22H2 boxes Kurt, shutdown -r -t 0 works just fine from a command prompt session…

 

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[Robert ECEO Townley]

Could it be that someone set the system to send feedback to Microsoft.  

ServiceQualityMonitor.SQM files in $ENV:TEMP may be in an indication. 

May want to look at "ServerManager.exe" --> "Local Server"  --> "Feedback & Diagnostics" 

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[Lee Wilbur]

I used to use that command until I realized that occasionally a system didn't shutdown.  Turned out some applications were holding up the reboot.  You could use the /f switch but if you use /t with a value greater than 0, the /f is implied.  As a result, I've used shutdown -r -t 1 for years.

I believe the shutdown command has always required a reason if you don't force it when restarting SERVERS.  Windows client PCs aren't finicky about it.  I remember being annoyed about it when the reason codes first debuted in 2003.  I thought Microsoft lightened up on requiring them, but maybe the /f (or implied /f) bypasses the reason code requirement and I stopped noticing.

In prior versions, you could disable the Shutdown event tracker and since windows is built on top of windows with each iteration, I would expect the disabling still works.  Reference:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/application-management/description-shutdown-event-tracker

-Lee

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[con...@cadzow.com.au]

In my contemporary scripts I use Shutdown.exe /r /t 1, but I have no recollection why I went to the trouble of using /t 1.

In my much older scripts, which aren't used any longer, I have -r -t 0

[Kurt Buff]

Yep - the PowerShell works, but it's not the first thing that comes to my fingers when doing light maintenance.

Kurt

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[Kurt Buff]

I'll take your word for that, but it's not my experience.

Kurt

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[Kurt Buff]

Perhaps I need to try it again...

Kurt

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[Kurt Buff]

That is worth checking.

Thanks,

Kurt

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[Kurt Buff]

Another thought worth pursuing.

Thanks,

Kurt

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[Michael B. Smith]

My standard build has “reboot” aliased in both PS and cmd.exe as “shutdown.exe /g /f /t 0” (in versions where /g is supported and /r otherwise).

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[Philip Elder]

The command is being run in an elevated CMD or PowerShell?

 

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