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Lucia Von Reusner

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Apr 6, 2011, 10:00:15 AM4/6/11
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strong feelings for institutions:
Although policies in place regarding hydrofracking do not adequately
protect the landscape (I3), the potential for drilling has brought the
community together to better understand the landscape and demand
policy that does support the landscape measures approach (I2, I1)
Conservation:
hydrofracking has effects both above and below ground, but to what
extend this affects the landscape is uncertain given the lack of
understanding as to how various chemicals and processes affect
organisms beyond simply human health.
production:
although hydrofracking has the potential to bring income into the
area, how sustainable this income is is unclear. We know that natural
gas is a finite resource, and that the absence of this resource post-
drilling will devalue the land. We also do not know how much revenue
will actually flow back into the community- how many jobs are
available, where will that gas be sold? However, if the revenue from
the hydrofracking is used to develop the community, it could be
beneficial to production. This is especially true if that revenue is
used as start up capital for more sustainable agricultural practices.

Joseph Weeks

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Apr 6, 2011, 4:03:24 PM4/6/11
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thanks. Does anybody have the final numbers we decided on? I thought
Jim was going to post them to blackboard, but he hasn't yet.

AMY NICHOLS

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Apr 6, 2011, 11:28:03 PM4/6/11
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Thoughts for Jay, 

Once again, we need to check our facts and look beyond the bold print and the emotional text. Who is getting the funding and who will benefit from Fracking? What has been the mistakes in the past that have caused underground water contamination and what is the likelihood of this occurring regularly? What have community's done to insure the safety of the local environment?

Playing devil's advocate, Fracking does allow less energy used in its execution, a reliable energy source as well as a simple execution. It could potentially aid the local economy in jobs  but we must not base our facts on whether the current workers are from the local community but from how many of the locals actually wanted a job working in the Fracking process.  I was also under the consideration that the Fracking takes place in deep bedrock which is below the underground water table.  Here is a great link that shows the picture of how Fracking works and also shows where the underground water table is located. I can understand the concern of contaminated water by complaining local citizens but was there documented evidence and valid proof proving their claim?  http://www.epa.gov/safewater/uic/pdfs/hfresearchstudyfs.pdf

Anyway, in regards to where we are obtaining our data, just make sure the producer of the article does not have some incentive for money. Then we can have greater confidence in their conclusions. 

-Amy

Sorry this is so late!! Thank you for talking for us Jay!! You are great!!

Laura Ciccone

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Apr 7, 2011, 1:54:23 AM4/7/11
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Jay:

Our final numbers were:

Goal 1: Conservation
Before: 3.5; After: 2.5

Goal 2: Production
Before: 3; After: 3

Goal 3: Livelihood
Before: 3; After: 3.5

Goal 4: Institutions
Before: 2; After 2.5

In order to avoid redundancy, I think Lucia and Amy really hit the
strong points in reference to what we should mention in our 90
seconds.

You'll kill 'em, Jay! Hope you read this before class... I'll try to
get there a bit early to make sure you have our numbers (we'll see
about that...).

See ya'll in 6 hours :)

-Laura

On Apr 6, 11:28 pm, AMY NICHOLS <amy.nicho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thoughts for Jay,
>
> Once again, we need to check our facts and look beyond the bold print and
> the emotional text. Who is getting the funding and who will benefit from
> Fracking? What has been the mistakes in the past that have caused
> underground water contamination and what is the likelihood of
> this occurring regularly? What have community's done to insure the safety of
> the local environment?
>
> Playing devil's advocate, Fracking does allow less energy used in its
> execution, a reliable energy source as well as a simple execution. It could
> potentially aid the local economy in jobs  but we must not base our facts on
> whether the current workers are from the local community but from how many
> of the locals actually wanted a job working in the Fracking process.  I was
> also under the consideration that the Fracking takes place in deep bedrock
> which is below the underground water table.  Here is a great link that shows
> the picture of how Fracking works and also shows where the underground water
> table is located. I can understand the concern of contaminated water by
> complaining local citizens but was there documented evidence and valid proof
> proving their claim?http://www.epa.gov/safewater/uic/pdfs/hfresearchstudyfs.pdf
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