[nsbasic-ce] Compiling for MIPS processor

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ouragreat1

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Feb 20, 2006, 10:28:44 PM2/20/06
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I have sent emails to sup...@nsbasic.com and haven't received any
responses. I purchased the upgrade for the latest version of NSBasic
in the hopes that I would be able to use NS Basic for developing an
applicaiton on an AMD Alchemy [read MIPS] based WINCE development
board. One of the other problems that I have is that the current
environment only supports a serial link. I want to be able to create
the file on the desktop and drop it on to a PC Card. Two questions:

1) Does NS Basic support the MIPS based AMD Alchemy?

2) Is it possible to compile on the desktop, drop onto a PC Card and
run from the WINCE based unit?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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Bob Katayama

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Are you referring to an embedded Windows CE PC like a desktop PC motherboard?
These are not the same as what NS Basic supports.
Here is a list of all the supported systems.
These are handheld and Pocket PC versions of Windows CE devices.
 
Hope this helps
 
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From: ouragreat1
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:28 PM
Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Compiling for MIPS processor

I have sent emails to sup...@nsbasic.com and haven't received any
responses.  I purchased the upgrade for the latest version of NSBasic
in the hopes that I would be able to use NS Basic for developing an
applicaiton on an AMD Alchemy [read MIPS] based WINCE development
board.  One of the other problems that I have is that the current
environment only supports a serial link.  I want to be able to create
the file on the desktop and drop it on to a PC Card.  Two questions:

1) Does NS Basic support the MIPS based AMD Alchemy?

2) Is it possible to compile on the desktop, drop onto a PC Card and
run from the WINCE based unit?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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ouragreat1

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Feb 21, 2006, 12:47:26 AM2/21/06
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THis unit is a device as shown here...
(http://www.dspdesign.com/products/product_detail?product_id=110).
It is about 2x3 inches in size. The unit ships with WINCE 4.2
installed. They ship it with a C++ 4.0 environment but I prefer
BASIC myself.

Here is what I have attempted so far.
1) Install it on my desktop. [The unit won't sync up to my desktop
so a standard install is out of the question. :( ]
2) Grab the files from the ActiveSync directory and copy them to the
PC Card.
3) Insert PC Card into development board and double click on files.
4) INstall script appears to execute and files are deleted from PC
Card.
5) Go to Start Menu and attempt to run NSBasic.
6) Device comes back stating that it 'Cannot find 'basic' or one of
its components. Make sure the path and filename are correct and
that all the required libraries are available.'
The path and file name are correct and the dll are in the Windows
directory.

Thoughts?

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>
> Are you referring to an embedded Windows CE PC like a desktop PC
motherboard?
> These are not the same as what NS Basic supports.
> Here is a list of all the supported systems.
> http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/faq.html
> These are handheld and Pocket PC versions of Windows CE devices.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Bob Katayama MVP Windows Mobile Devices
> Executive Editor www.technobrains.com
> Smartphone and Pocket PC Magazine Forum Administrator
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:28 PM
> Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Compiling for MIPS processor
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> I have sent emails to support@... and haven't received any

> responses. I purchased the upgrade for the latest version of
NSBasic
> in the hopes that I would be able to use NS Basic for developing
an
> applicaiton on an AMD Alchemy [read MIPS] based WINCE
development
> board. One of the other problems that I have is that the
current
> environment only supports a serial link. I want to be able to
create
> the file on the desktop and drop it on to a PC Card. Two
questions:
>
> 1) Does NS Basic support the MIPS based AMD Alchemy?
>
> 2) Is it possible to compile on the desktop, drop onto a PC Card
and
> run from the WINCE based unit?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Bob Katayama

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Feb 21, 2006, 3:35:09 AM2/21/06
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These units are similar to PC motherboards and not the same as a PDA which NS Basic is designed for.
These boards you are referring to are PC -104 embedded motherboards. These do not run the Pocket PC or equivalent  mobile versions of Windows CE but the full blown Windows CE.
In these cases you need Visual Studio from MS.
 
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    Bob Katayama

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    In addition:
     
    The PC-104 boards you use must be ARM based since Windows CE supported through Visual Studio is for CE V40+ to Wm 5.0.
    No MIPS processor support anymore.

    Bob Katayama

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    Feb 21, 2006, 3:45:08 AM2/21/06
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    One last comment.
    If you can find a suitable PC-104 board running an X86 compatible processor then you should be able to run regular Windows XP on the system. Then NS Basic for Desktop can be used.

    George Henne

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    Feb 21, 2006, 6:31:36 AM2/21/06
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    We haven't tested this device. The lack of ActiveSync will certainly
    make things more complex!

    We do support MIPS processors on Windows CE 3.0 devices. We have not yet
    encountered a 4.2 device running MIPS, so we the installers and
    compilers do not have this option. Do you want to do this as a one off
    project, or are you planning a large scale deployment?

    (I'm sorry we haven't gotten the messages you sent directly. We respond
    to all messages we receive, but something the spam filters capture good
    messages)

    ouragreat1

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    Feb 21, 2006, 8:21:43 AM2/21/06
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    Well shoot. I was hoping to use NS Basic. I am not a C++
    programmer and thought that this would support this board. Any
    thoughts or ideas of how I can still use NSB? This was going to be
    a large scale deployment.

    > >wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Are you referring to an embedded Windows CE PC like a desktop
    PC
    > >motherboard?
    > >> These are not the same as what NS Basic supports.
    > >> Here is a list of all the supported systems.
    > >> http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/faq.html
    > >> These are handheld and Pocket PC versions of Windows CE devices.
    > >>
    > >> Hope this helps
    > >>
    > >> Bob Katayama MVP Windows Mobile Devices
    > >> Executive Editor www.technobrains.com
    > >> Smartphone and Pocket PC Magazine Forum Administrator
    > >> ----- Original Message -----
    > >> From: ouragreat1
    > >> To: nsbas...@yahoogroups.com
    > >> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:28 PM
    > >> Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Compiling for MIPS processor
    > >>
    > >>

    > >> I have sent emails to support@ and haven't received any

    George Henne

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    Feb 21, 2006, 8:48:21 AM2/21/06
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    Have a look at this document. We do special builds for cases like this...
    <http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/embeddedDeviceSupport.html>

    Mark and Lisa Collins

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    Mar 21, 2006, 10:57:23 PM3/21/06
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    George,

    The development environment for this device is embedded Visual C++ 4.0 and quite honestly I hate C++ any more.  However, I have been able to obtain a copy of Visual Studio .NET to attempt to write code for this device but the hoops to jump through are a little irritating.  Do you think that you guys can support this device?

    all the best...
    Mark Collins
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        George Henne

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        Mar 22, 2006, 10:13:24 AM3/22/06
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        This is the first request we've had for this, so it doesn't look like
        the market is a big one. However, you could sign up for the Embedded
        Device Support Program and get it done that way:

        <http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/embeddedDeviceSupport.html>

        >George,
        >
        >
        >The development environment for this device is embedded Visual C++ 4.0
        >and quite honestly I hate C++ any more.  However, I have been able to
        >obtain a copy of Visual Studio .NET to attempt to write code for this
        >device but the hoops to jump through are a little irritating.  Do you
        >think that you guys can support this device?
        >
        >all the best...
        >Mark Collins

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