Silent partner

[warrierbalram]

--- In nanga...@yahoogroups.com, "Benjamin Desouza"
<benji_india@h...> wrote:

Hi Nova
Thanks for the info on the device. I had never heard of this one. I
think I am getting outdated. although the cost of the device of
USD225/- is verrrry steep

I am however a little confused, when u solo (LEAD), after you have
anchored one end of the rope (at base anchor), then the balance rope
will have to be carried coiled around your shoulder, CORRECT??,
Adding to the weight, also you will have to be sure that your rope is
enough for the climb or else, you will actually run out of rope. So
this system (soloing with Silent partner) doesnt seem to be realistic
for long routes, as the standard rope lenght is again just 60metrs.

I feel this system of using Silent partner will work well if you are
soloing with top rope.
Benji
--- In nanga...@yahoogroups.com, "nuwazish nariman patel"
<Nuwazish_Patel@r...> wrote:
>
> Hey benji,
>
> about my mail on simul climbing... that was my opinion considering
my climbing skills... anyways ya it was just to say that we need to
understand the pro's and con's as well as the safety factors before
trying any new style of climbing..
>
> and about soloing... soloing does not mean to climb without
protection.. in this i will have a rope , will place protections ,
but no belayer ,,, only me .. thats why it is called soloing...
atleast thats what i understand..
> In this the clmber ties one end of the rope to a solid anchor and
uses a device like Silent partner... the device is tied to climbers
harness and connected to the rope.. as the climber moves up the
device allows the rope to pass through.. but in case of a sudden fall
it locks...
>
> For details of this device see the following link:
> http://www.wrenindustries.com/silentpart.html
> It is costly but a cool device... it is almost as if climbing when
someone is belaying you.
> This is the same mechanism used in seatbelts of cars... when you
pull the seatbelt slowly it will move but a sudden jerk will stop it..
>
> There are other traditional methods like tying fig 8 knots on the
entire rope and as you move up remove the fig 8 knot and replace it
by another,,, but rather primitive and difficult to use..
>
> Hey i suppose the bolts might have been removed by someone feeling
that it was unsafe ... i remember that the rock at Kanheri is very
soft .. was able to drill a hole in 5 mins ... so maybe the bolt
might have become loose and someone might have removed it for
safety.. thats Ok. We should put up 2-3 inches 10 mm bolts there ...
i will surely get some good bolts like Petzl center pin(2 inch 10 mm)
for setting up top rope routes which we use very often.
>
> and by the way how did you think i was talking of climbing 120
without rope ... he he he ...
>
> Hey , read about Yana going to Rajmachi and Aarya going to the
climbing wall with Raj,,,, thats great..
>
>
> So thats it ,,
> I will get back to some work..
>
>
>
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[warrierbalram]

--- In nanga...@yahoogroups.com, "nuwazish nariman patel"
<Nuwazish_Patel@r...> wrote:

Hi Benji,
You are right,, the rope will have to be carried with you in a rope
bag or on the shoulders ... and definately it is not recommended for
routes where you don't know the rope length required..

Definately it can work great for top ropes and leads (which you have
done and are confident about the pitch length).

And the device is too costly..

So thats it.
Bye

[warrierbalram]

--- In nanga...@yahoogroups.com, kavita shah <kavita12shah@y...> wrote:
Hi Benji,
there is a belay device called soloist which can be used for
solo climbs,top roping and rappling.It locks well in a fall.it's
being used widely now.it's considerably cheaper compared to silent
partner.it costs about us$100.But it's not for novice climbers.it
requires strong understanding and use of the chest harness is insisted
upon.