"Kinetic Theory"

[Roger Munday]

You continue to argue about the hypothetical interactions of your subatomic particles, e.g. electrons, aietherons, etc. etc. as if you have experimental evidence that these exist as actual particles.

But the facts are that no theoretical physicist has such a proof of an actual physical existence of any hypothetical subatomic particle.

The supposition, of the existence of interatomic particles, was and still is due to the ancient hypothetical belief that a nonmaterial “vacuous” space exists between atoms to allow for their individual “kinetic” motions.

And also that the atoms of any element all remain at the same masses and volumes in the solid, liquid and gaseous states.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Now the latest topic  - double slit exp on wave particle duality - dark photons

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2477695-dark-photon-theory-of-light-aims-to-tear-up-a-century-of-physics/

I have completed the work and presented at SIPS Panama 2023. Dark photons are aitheron f2 measurements.

The equation below in part is used in spectroscopy to study photons emitted by distant stars.

 

F V Fernandes

On.Target Molecules Biotech Inc

Website: O.TM Biotech Inc. 

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Research Work 

 

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Website: Aither 186

Book: The Ether Model

 

 

[Roger Munday]

"And also it is stated that the atoms of any element all remain at the same masses and volumes in the solid, liquid and gaseous states."

If the "wire" of gold atoms shown is progressively heated, the component atoms absorb this heat and progressively increase in mass and volume, and the wire increases laterally and longitudinally in volume.

And, if heating of progressively greater temperatures is applied, this process continues and eventually the gold atoms continuously expand to the liquid state.

Eventually the gold atoms expand collectively, individually and volumetrically to the gaseous state.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

This paper, which has been posted on a number of occasions, details the process of the universal transmission of magnetic fields.

https://romunpress.co.nz/romunnose/?s=Continuous+Magnetic+Atoms

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

The paper is not scientific nor natural philosophy.

You have pulled information in small bits and placed them in one paper.

There is not one empirical equation nor any philosophical yardstick to understand the relevance of the conclusions arrived at.

Solid liquid and gas are grade 4 level. Barometer grade 9. 

The world has moved on.

Photons baryons hadrons leptons are being manipulated to make devices that are of utility.

Check with mainstream and report back on their comments. In this forum I like to look at the questions. I do not bother with answers that have an absence of metrology.

Try doing bank work without numbers. Or grocery shopping.

 

F V Fernandes

On.Target Molecules Biotech Inc

Website: O.TM Biotech Inc. 

Linkedin / Facebook / Instagram

Research Work 

 

World Science Database

 

Website: Aither 186

Book: The Ether Model

 

 

[Roger Munday]

Franklin,

So you have an “aetherial” atmosphere which is hypothetically filled with “photons, baryons, hadrons and/or leptons” - and are these in “kinetic” motions?

Unfortunately your “particles” are not experimentally examinable, and so if you believe that they “exist” and also that these “particles” can interact somehow to explain how observed forces (or your “gravity”) can interact physically between celestial bodies (as magnetic fields are observed to do).

Let me know how you “know” these exist and propagate.

Bear in mind that such a particulate structure no doubt must have an interceding sub-particulate “space” so that your “particles” could move about and exist as entities in such a “sub-aetherial space”.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

Apologies - To Frank Fernandes - not "Franklin"

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger

The predicted particles have all been observed and my papers peer reviewed by mainstream and published

You are not a science major. However 

You understand within the visible spectrum. 120plus decimal places is outside your understanding. We close this.

[Franklin Hu]

Frank

All of the links on your web site have 404 errors so I can’t read your papers.

However, I don’t think mainstream has discovered your aether particle since you don’t refer to it in terms that they use such as positron or quarks.

It is also clearly wrong that Hydrogen doesn’t contain an electron since we can experimentally detect the difference between a bare proton and a neutral hydrogen atom.

-Franklin Hu and don’t mix up Frank F with me

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On May 14, 2025, at 10:47 PM, Frank Fernandes <aith...@gmail.com> wrote:



[Frank Fernandes]

Franklin,

Look at SIPS Panama 2023. There are 3 papers. It may cost 200 Euros I think.

Look at Hadronic Journal Dec 2024. One Kg and one mol volume.

There are patents too.

So it is not just papers rather products. And funded patents. Series A against milestones.

Regards

[Roger Munday]

Frank,

Your “observations” of “subatomic particles” are generated streaks on a photographic plate, which could well be structurally collective atomic particles.

You all collectively accept the current paradym of the “existence’ of un-isolateable vacuum, i.e. an experimentally, and totally unexaminable, non-material “vacuous” empty space.

And so you collectively are unable to explain how the Moon maintains its orbital motion around Earth.

Again, for your information, the observed magnetic fields of both bodies are observed to act continuously within the separating spaces between these celestial objects.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

You are not from a science background and in no position to discuss metrology.

Same with Franklin.

Franklin was present at Storrs.

Only when we see the papers and the presentations do we know the absence of knowledge on the pure sciences.

Readers are well aware of which empirical math is correct and what is conjecture.

The Philosophical questions are great as posed by you. However, you will never understand because there is metrology involved that is beyond your ability.

Simon in American Idol brings this out clearly - which is every choir master's nightmare. He says - you are tone deaf. The audience laughs. The family remarks - how rude.

Regards

[Roger Munday]

Frank,

I am not discussing metrology.

i.e. "the comparison of an unknown quantity, referred to as the measurand, with a standard of a known quantity".

And you have no idea of what my "background" is.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

I have a suggestion - get funded for your ideas and perform your own experiments with patent designs.

Also the highest level of Philosophy is to spend time in the field. the time in the field in acts of charity should be twice the time in these discussions. Else it becomes armchair talk.

Pascal spent his time in acts of mercy and stated that these acts are the highest realm of Philosophy in action.

Pascal did phenomenal work on Pressure close to your barometer.

So cheers to that.

There are technology skips happening at an unprecedented level. Ease of doing work is unbelievable in some cities of the world while in other cities people are still in the coal and oil phase. And talking about health care when these have been solved elsewhere to better efficiency. Absence of Pharma- Insurance - Doctor nexus.

It is not the background of a person rather telos.

That is the highest philosophy. Telos.

To project background is ego.

To project fruitful benefits in terms of significant qualia is the evidence.

[Roger Munday]

Frank,

You say that I am "not in a position to discuss metrology".

Metrology - "The comparison of an unknown quantity, referred to as the measurand, with a standard of a known quantity"

What is there to discuss?

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

Let's take an example. For a start -

Can you explain the metrology of speed of light c, t and t', and 1Kg and 1 mol volume. And the masses associated with the variables.

Since none of your papers have data nor equations you may explain in text by yardstick why though Trump's tariffs are the right reasons the metrology is wrong.

[Roger Munday]

Frank,

"Can you explain the metrology of speed of light c"

Why should I try to compare an “unknown quantity” with 

an “assumed quantity” ????

Do bear in mind that the speed of light is NOT a constant, i.e. "c",

it is observed to be dependent on the density of the transitional medium.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

Your education has suffered. It is pointless discussing with someone who is not of a science background as is evident from your papers. 

I will answer just this one and not waste further time.

The speed of light c is derived from the radius of an ether toroid r. The radius r pulsates by a factor of 137.036.

The source of wavelength lambda is thus 2Pi r x 137.036.

The frequency of light is f and that of an aitheron.

And so empirically c = f x 2Pi r x137.036.

Speed of light squared = 25812.807 x 3.481818 x 10e12 meter per second squared.

Refraction of light is when lightspeed is v and not c.

The speed of light changes with density - grade 5 middle school.

And the real reason for the decline of society in general is discussions on aspects that are true of a paradigm on a lower level of understanding with no data nor equations. With very good arguments in the domain of futility.

You have skipped Ether in your statement by Aristotle. Knowingly.

You have skipped discussing which mass is moving at c or v. Knowingly.

And then jumped to an argument on assumptions and 5th grade textbook stuff.

Trump is right on his philosophy - Here are the solutions in metrology -

EX.  Take every biologic in the market and perform omics especially for autoimmune disorders. let the data speak. Then prove RFK jr right or wrong. Test it by 3 labs with codes so that there is no bias.

EX.  Deal with the nexus between Pharma - Insurance - Doctor and not drug prices.

EX.  Blanket stop on all weapons manufacture. Especially nuclear power plants. It is possible with technology to deter with Lasers.

Weapons sales as is happening with every foreign trip has no outcome except revenge toward the seller. This is stupidity.

EX. Closing of departments of education. Good. The poor standards are due to poor teaching. Playdough instead of Plato.

Visual learners and kinetic learners are a good mix, However they should not pull down an entire class to their level.

This is what is going on in the CNPS/NPA.

And there are good Mathematicians who are not familiar with data booklets/NIST/CODATA.

And there are good engineers who are fitters and so incapable of pure sciences yet invaluable toward making things for the pure scientists.

And there are good Philosophers who are lost with the pseudo Philosophers and Theologians. As evidenced by 33 thousand churches each with their own Theology. The Holy Spirit does not change the mind of a person nor a church against one another.

Pope Leo 14 is a Math major - a similar situation to the time of Galileo when the Pope was his friend and a Mathematician.

Copernicus was a Catholic priest. However, the lower level folks plunge everyone into darkness by pushing error.

The speed of light c is due to a measurable aitheron.

The MM experiment is the greatest experiment of all time and very soon the world will reach the empirical outcomes I have which can be summarized by bringing all scientists on one line. Ohm's law is Newton's law. Only Fernandes 186-ether fixes this. And related to Planck's mass and length by the Hand of God. The Aitheron gives mass not the Higgs field/Boson/Bosons.

[Roger Munday]

Frank,

You assert:- "The speed of light c is derived from the radius of an ether toroid r."

Best of luck.

Roger

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

Say good luck to Planck. Since r is the Planck length too.

[Roger Munday]

Frank F.,

You present your structurally complex theories, the components of which are based upon totally unexaminable, (and thus unprovable) assumptions, e.g. as to the physical "existence" of an interatomic "aether".

So as there is no experimental evidence of this "existence", you resort to filling this with extremely complex, subatomic and particulate concepts.

As these (presumably distinct) hypo particles are necessarily of lesser dimensions, they must be individually separated by a sub-sub atomic "empty space".

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

My work is only based on NIST data.

My work is too easy and any high school student can follow.

You are not of science background. Or your education has been severely lacking due to poor teachers. Or you are not meant for science in the first place. Tone deaf. There is nothing wrong with being tone deaf. Each one has a different telos.

You cannot contribute to science. The particles in my work have all been identified. And products made.

Infact 12 hours ago - My work describes this with data. And published. Peer reviewed. And presented twice at NPA/CNPS.

My work on photons is now the NIST standard for one kilogram.

Physicists have reached an unexpected breakthrough: they changed beams of light into a supersolid that flows without normal resistance. This marks a major milestone in  because it shows that light can adopt a structure resembling a solid while also moving around freely like a liquid.

12 hours ago

[Roger Munday]

Frank F.,

You say:- “light can adopt a structure resembling a solid while also moving around freely like a liquid.”.

Yes you and all theoretical physicists have been indoctrinated in “education” for centuries in the collective belief in the “existence” of a subatomic vacuum.

And all “physicists” since then have tried to “fill” this assumed space with subatomic particles, “photons” etc. etc., none of which are experimentally isolateable.

So you all try to explain how forces can propagate within your collective (and personal) “interatomic” spaces.

And you, and they, will no doubt carry on with these collective beliefs in extremely complex “interatomic spacial structures” for another century.

The gold wire shown in this paper is observed to be composed of a continuous structure of solid atoms.

https://romunpress.co.nz/romunnose/continuous-magnetic-atoms/

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

Photons have 3 properties namely mass length and frequency. The inverse of frequency is an interval of time.

If photons do not exist then we are blind and the Universe is blind.

If photons do not exist then time does not exist. Time intervals as well as frequency.

If frequency does not exist then - no communication - Roger received and out.

If the wavelength of a photon does not exist and is not examinable then there is no colour in your life.

I have solved 1 molar volume as an attribute of photons.

With that I have completely defined 1Kg, 1 mol volume and frequency as that of an aitheron the inverse of which links time.

All examinable experimentally with NIST data.

Without moles not a single calculation of the amount of substance is possible.

In top class Universities an entire floor is dedicated to moles and calculations.

Mettler Toledo is a world leader in this aspect.

[Roger Munday]

Frank,

You say - "if photons do not exist then we are blind".

And I said photons do not exist, i.e. they cannot be isolated and thus observed in experiment.

So you base your entire theoretical and ultimate "structure of matter" on the "existence" of "particulate photons".

Light is the progressive N-S electromagnetic propagation within an atmospheric continuum of atoms, which are all naturally and statically aligned N-S in the Earth's local atmospheric field, and e.g. in the moon's local electromagnetic atmosphere. 

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

PHOTONS as per energy levels and NIST description of 1Kg and my exact description of aitheron frequencies utilizing masors.

 One particle the Aitheron creates waves as f2 x f3 x f3 frequencies. The Fernandes Ether Dogmas. I have defined the word Quantum.

[Frank Fernandes]

1.047193539 x 10e-41 kg photon mass of the maser f

The word maser is an acronym that stands for microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation. Masers operate at the resonance frequency of the hydrogen atom, which is 1,420,405,752 Hz.

Wavelength = 2Pi x r x 137.036       This is a length measurement.

It is a distance travelled by a Fernandes 186-Ether about a mean radius r.

AITHERON at frequency f2 produces a measurement of a photon. The photon at frequency f3 produces the measurement of Fernandes 186- Ether. The 186-ether at the same frequency f3 produces a measurement of an ether toroid in the vastness of space. The radius r of this toroid produces the measurement of wavelength.

THIS IS HOW LIGHT TRANSMITS AS A WAVE INSTANTLY THROUGH SPACE.  THIS IS THE DEPICTION OF Cs frequency as in the previous email in conjunction with Cs atoms in an antenna or frequency emitter working in all forms of communication.

In another paper I have shown how gravitational lensing occurs as FTL x v2.

The solid liquid crystal lattice is a Bose Einstein condensate. Labs around the world are racing to show that they are the first.

However China has already made batteries of the same. 

And I had finished the empirical work in 2007. And presented several times to the NPA/CNPS.

However in 2017 I realized at Storrs that no one in the group and at large know Algebra with a few exceptions. Nor familiar with Physics Chemistry. SHOCKING.

Carl figured out how Current I = mc/e. I had presented again the new definitions of electric current electric resistance and voltage. That eV is temperature.

Anyway only when the first patients in cancer are treated I can talk openly.

[Roger Munday]

Frank F ,

You say:- "Wavelength = 2Pi x r x 137.036       This is a length measurement."

Mathematics is not physics, neither you nor anyone can prove an absolute equality between any two physical entities, from atoms upwards.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

Wavelength is the length of the circumference of an ether toroid..

We close this thread. Math is the measurement of data from experiments. And you know neither.

You take fragments of information and choose what you like. The real reason for the demise and problems of society.

The patterns in your mind are formed. Whatever the discussion, the brain vomits the same text.

Trump has made amazing group team announcements on drug prices and adult education.

He is the only President who has actually understood the root problems of the US and the World.

The rhetorical question is - the metrology toward solutions?

[Roger Munday]

I repeat:-

"The facts are that no theoretical physicist has such a proof of an actual physical existence of any hypothetical subatomic particle."

Including "aether toroids".

So I agree to cease this "aetherial" discussion.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

I suggest that if your mathematical bank balance goes down due to a hacker that you sit tight and do not respond. Since - there is no physical evidence that physical cash was taken away.  Its math. 

[Roger Munday]

As stated - Mathematics is not physics, neither you nor anyone can prove an absolute equality between any two physical entities.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger,

Listen to - Halim Boutayeb - especially the first remark on the necessity of equations. 

This talk I would rank as the best since 2008 in the NPA/CNPS series of lectures.

Every slide Halim has on his PPT I have solved with data and presented. And published.

What is missing is the variable of mass. Without the variable of mass Halim will get nowhere. I have thus finished the work by including mass.

When mass is included t and t' take on the true values of frequency and so 1/2 x t squared is a physical reality of mass.

Time t is the inverse of frequency. This fact can be easily explained across all the equations in all of his slides.

Canada is producing great science by immigrants along with the huge infrastructure available.

[Roger Munday]

"t and t' take on the true values of frequency and so 1/2 x t squared is a physical reality of mass."

Mathematics is not physics.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Then Roger - you have just reinvented the Emperor's New Clothes. 

The frequency of any musical instrument within your range of hearing and seeing notation does not depend on the mass of the strings.

Whatever the mathematical Physics where equations are embedded cause you to vomit the same statement.

You are a very extreme version of paroting.

This example of behavior is part of teacher training in good schools. A child is taught B for ball. Then B for bat. If a child weeps and insists B cannot be for bat the teacher knows that nothing can be done.

[Roger Munday]

The ultimate and fundamental problem for theoretical physics today is the general belief of all theoretical physicists today in the “existence” of an interatomic “vacuum” which separates the atoms of matter in any state.

“The kinetic theory of gases is a simple classical model of the thermodynamic behavior of gases. It treats a gas as composed of numerous particles, too small to be seen with a microscope, in constant, random motion. These particles are now known to be the atoms or molecules of the gas. The kinetic theory of gases uses their collisions with each other and with the walls of their container to explain the relationship between the macroscopic properties of gases, such as the volume, pressure and temperature.”

And it is further stated that such “kinetic atoms” of any specific element remain at precisely the same individual masses and volumes in all the observed states of matter, in other words in the solid, the liquid and the gaseous states.

 This means that in the observed expansions and contractions of a proportion of matter, of any elemental material unit of volume, resulting from inputs and emissions of heat energy, it is the volume of the interceding vacuum which expands and further separates these “kinetic” atoms.

Which "absolute vacuum” is absolutely impossible to create in experiment, but you collectively believe in this totally nonsensical void.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

Continuous Magnetic Atoms

Roger Munday

[Franklin Hu]

That doesn't fix your website links and I'm not going to pay to see how you think Hydrogen doesn't contain an electron.

Basic stuff like this - you instantly lose any kind of credibility.

You lost me....

-Franklin

On Thursday, May 15, 2025 at 08:05:24 AM EDT, Frank Fernandes <aith...@gmail.com> wrote:

Franklin,

Look at SIPS Panama 2023. There are 3 papers. It may cost 200 Euros I think.

Look at Hadronic Journal Dec 2024. One Kg and one mol volume.

There are patents too.

So it is not just papers rather products. And funded patents. Series A against milestones.

Regards

 

F V Fernandes

On.Target Molecules Biotech Inc

Website: O.TM Biotech Inc. 

Linkedin / Facebook / Instagram

Research Work 

 

World Science Database

 

Website: Aither 186

Book: The Ether Model

 

 

On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 7:24 AM Franklin Hu <frank...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Frank

All of the links on your web site have 404 errors so I can’t read your papers.

However, I don’t think mainstream has discovered your aether particle since you don’t refer to it in terms that they use such as positron or quarks.

It is also clearly wrong that Hydrogen doesn’t contain an electron since we can experimentally detect the difference between a bare proton and a neutral hydrogen atom.

-Franklin Hu and don’t mix up Frank F with me

Sent from my iPhone

[Frank Fernandes]

The KE Theory of gases in text books for middle/high school is now empirically deconstructed by me as -

PV = n kT  Text Book

P = Pressure = Magnetic Field B squared

V = Volume = The three path lengths of photons [Solution for molar volume peer reviewed-Bose Einstein Condensate the 5th state of matter]

n = moles = Avogadro number of aitherons

k = Boltzmann constant = 2Pi x 10e-7 x 137.036 x e

T = Kelvin temperature = eV   a measure of photon mass

You are right Roger speed of light c does not exist. c is for cat.

[Roger Munday]

Franklin,

You do not pay to link to this paper.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

Frank,

As stated there is no evidence whatsoever for the "existence" of "photons/aitherons".

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/University_Physics/University_Physics_(OpenStax)/Book%3A_University_Physics_I_-_Mechanics_Sound_Oscillations_and_Waves_(OpenStax)/17%3A_Sound/17.08%3A_The_Doppler_Effect