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Shafiq Khan

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Nov 24, 2025, 10:15:54 AM (8 days ago) Nov 24
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Dear All, 

The members of this forum seem to have enough time to discuss superfluous concepts like absence of aether and the consequent paradigm. Aether is shown to be existing in space in my published paper in peer-reviewed journal titled 'Michelson-Morley Experiment; A Misconceived and Misinterpreted Experiment' which anybody can read by Google searching for it. Aether gives the meaning to the Quantum Mechanics otherwise it is meaningless mathematical calculations. Secondly CMBR under Big Bang paradigm is simply absurd as shown by me in paper published in peer-reviewed journal titled 'Energy Theory of Matter and Cosmology' 
There is an open challenge to the adopted paradigm of physics standing till todate which I have put forward in the year 2012 which everyone of you can read on SlideShare, ResearchGate, General Science Journal, viXra, Academia.edu etc. 

With Regards 
Mohammad Shafiq Khan 
Ex. Director, Writer, Scientist, Philosopher and above all a Philanthropist. 

On Mon, Nov 24, 2025, 7:00 PM <npa-rel...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Akinbo Ojo <ta...@hotmail.com>: Nov 23 02:10PM

Hi Cornelis,
The reason why these "good scientists" needed to be educated was because Einstein had said the validity of his Special relativity postulate rested on the assumption that such a preferred ...more
Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 23 11:19AM -0500

To All,
 
I do not understand the obsession with a mechanical aether. It has been
ruled out by every serious experiment with real funding and real precision,
or at the very least pushed so far ...more
Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 04:21PM

Nick,
I do indeed generally reply to your questions even though you may not like my answers. However the same cannot be said about you regarding my questions. I have asked you several questions over ...more
Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 04:28PM

Andy,
You say “The aether died 150 years ago” and “There is no absolute rest frame.” What then do you make of the Earth-centred Inertial (ECI) frame which is necessary for the accurate ...more
Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 23 11:42AM -0500

Stephen,
 
Telling people what to think usually does not end well. The ECI frame is
not an absolute rest frame. It is a local relative rest frame chosen
because it makes the GPS math work cleanly. ...more
Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 04:49PM

Andy,
The ECI frame is a local inertial frame but it is the only one where light speed is constant and relative to which clocks run slow in a defined manner. It is therefore more than just chosen to ...more
r.j.an...@btinternet.com r.j.an...@btinternet.com <r.j.an...@btinternet.com>: Nov 23 05:05PM

>> The aether died 150 years ago.<<
 
did NOT.
 
There is still the Lorentz ether theory for example. 
------ Original Message ------
From: andre...@gmail.com ...more
Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 23 12:10PM -0500

Stephan,
 
*“That makes it a preferred frame which many consider an absolute space.”*
 
And many people once thought the universe revolved around the Earth.
 
A belief does not overturn ...more
Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 23 12:25PM -0500

Stephan,
 
I arrived at my conclusions from an entirely different process, which
happens to land on the nature of reference frames at the fundamental level.
 
If we accept endlessness as something, ...more
Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 05:40PM

Andy,
I believe that the ECI frame is more than a convenient frame for GPS calculation and I explained why. We can agree to disagree.
Regards
Stephan
 
From: Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com> ...more
r.j.an...@btinternet.com r.j.an...@btinternet.com <r.j.an...@btinternet.com>: Nov 23 05:44PM

none of that makes sense to be..... so - pass
------ Original Message ------
From: andre...@gmail.com
To: stepha...@uwi.edu Cc: verhey....@gmail.com;
ta...@hotmail.com; ...more
Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 23 12:44PM -0500

Good luck with that, Stephan.
 
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Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 05:45PM

Andy,
Good luck to you too!
Stephan
 
From: Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2025 1:45 pm
To: Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>
Cc: Cornelis Verhey ...more
r.j.an...@btinternet.com r.j.an...@btinternet.com <r.j.an...@btinternet.com>: Nov 23 06:05PM

Well let's have a go at the first question; although its not really
clear what is being asked for.
 
 
>> What is your mathematical (not descriptive) derivation of the
>> (one-way) light ...more
Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 23 01:43PM -0500

Caught a mistake in Gemini's analysis.
 
*"Infinity ([image: image.gif]∞) is defined not as an unreachable quantity,
but as an unbounded process or endlessness."*
 
This is not what I said. ...more
Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 07:05PM

Yesterday, James Arathoon gave a quite interesting presentation at the Saturday forum that is well worth watching. He spoke about many aspects of relativistic physics and his perspective on them. ...more
Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 07:07PM

This lacks rigour, although you arrive at a value c which may make Nick very unhappy!
 
From: r.j.an...@btinternet.com r.j.an...@btinternet.com <r.j.an...@btinternet.com>
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Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 07:15PM

Actually, I am not sure what value of light speed you arrive at!
 
From: Stephan Gift
Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2025 3:07 pm
To: r.j.an...@btinternet.com r.j.an...@btinternet.com ...more
r.j.an...@btinternet.com r.j.an...@btinternet.com <r.j.an...@btinternet.com>: Nov 23 07:34PM

see Einstein's paper where I got the equations from -
https://users.physics.ox.ac.uk/~rtaylor/teaching/specrel.pdf
<https://users.physics.ox.ac.uk/~rtaylor/teaching/specrel.pdf>
 
  ...more
Carl Reiff <cre...@elgenwave.com>: Nov 23 01:27PM -0800

I'm going to jump in here.  Andy, if the ECI wasn't a real (local to
Earth) preferred/rest frame, the Hafele-Keating experiment would have
had a null result - similar to how MMX had a null result ...more
AJ <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 23 05:31PM -0500

Carl,
 
I think you're responding to something different from what Stephan and I were talking about.
 
No one here is denying that local preferred frames exist. The ECI is a perfectly valid local ...more
Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 23 10:51PM

Andy,
Carl’s response is quite appropriate. You claimed that the ECI frame was merely a local inertial frame “chosen because it makes the GPS math work cleanly. That is all it is.” I argued ...more
AJ <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 23 06:16PM -0500

Stephan,
 
Of course. I know what you implied. And we both agreed to disagree. I'm not sure Carl fully understood the context of our discussion. That's what I wasn't clear on. I was not trying to ...more
Carl Reiff <cre...@elgenwave.com>: Nov 23 06:33PM -0800

Andy,
 
I see you've added "universal" as an additional modifier.  That makes it
unmistakable.  If you used "universal" before, I didn't notice it.  To
me, absolute doesn't necessarily imply ...more
Franklin Hu <frank...@yahoo.com>: Nov 24 03:09AM

Akinbo,
I don't see how this could possibly mean goodbye to longitudinal light waves.
There is no magnetism in a longitudinal waves in an ordinary particulate medium.
If the medium is particulate ...more
Franklin Hu <frank...@yahoo.com>: Nov 24 03:10AM

We can easily generate strong Khz radio signals (such as AM radio) to be detected by hall detectors. Speed is not the problem.
-Franklin
On Friday, November 21, 2025 at 12:28:46 AM PST, Akinbo ...more
Cornelis Verhey <verhey....@gmail.com>: Nov 23 09:28PM -0700

Stephan,
 
"I argued that it is more since light speed there is c and clocks slow
(according to the usual gamma factor) relative to that inertial frame only
and no other."
 
The same is true for ...more
Stephan Gift <stepha...@uwi.edu>: Nov 24 08:08AM

Cornelis,
I am not contending that the ECI frame is universal. As I have stated, it is local. However it is not merely a convenient reference frame for GPS calculations. The calculation for satellite ...more
Akinbo Ojo <ta...@hotmail.com>: Nov 24 08:30AM

Franklin,
See below follow up from AI, how do you respond?
 
[24/11, 07:01] Akinbo: Can Hall sensors detect magnetic fields in kHz range like AM radio?
 
[24/11, 07:02] Meta AI: Hall sensors can ...more
Akinbo Ojo <ta...@hotmail.com>: Nov 24 08:45AM

Hi Carl,
 
You said this in recent reply to me: “If it hasn't dawned on you yet. I don't use gamma according to SR - in that SR has no preferred frame. I am definitely a preferred frame kind of ...more
Akinbo Ojo <ta...@hotmail.com>: Nov 24 08:59AM

Franklin,
 
I am in full agreement with you that if the medium is particulate, then it must support a longitudinal wave by definition.
 
*Do you believe or accept that transverse mechanical waves ...more
Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 24 05:01AM -0500

Carl,
 
No need to apologize, Carl. These conversations aren't formal, and we can
be somewhat loose in our terminology unintentionally.
 
I will say, whenever someone refers to a frame as ...more
Andy Schultheis <andre...@gmail.com>: Nov 24 06:19AM -0500

Carl,
 
And just for fun, I plugged that previous email I just sent into Gemini,
which possesses a hardened view of mainstream physics.
 
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Akinbo Ojo <ta...@hotmail.com>: Nov 24 12:13PM

Hi Stephan,
 
Special relativity (SR), and I believe Lorentz ether transformation (LET) admit that the relativistic equations apply to light itself, which is why the path length of light can be ...more
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