A Continuum of Atoms

[Roger Munday]

The universe is ultimately, and completely, composed of a continuum of material atoms.

Which continuously interactive atoms expand and contract with locally transmitted inputs and emissions of energy/matter.

If a sealed sphere, such as a plastic balloon, is taken out into space from the pressures of the Earth’s atmosphere at its surface, it will progressively expand in volume in the lower external pressures experienced there.

This is due to the collective expansions of the contained gaseous atoms in the balloon in the decreasing pressures at these increasing altitudes.

No interatomic vacuum exists in the entire universe.

And no experimenter can isolate an absolute vacuum. This is because atoms in the internal surfaces of a metal apparatus at very low pressures liquidate and then evaporate to fill the space.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

So not one of you can prove that your hypothetical vacuum can be isolated in experiment and is a possible "state".

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

Kinetic Atomic Theory of Gases

This theory states that the component atoms of any observed volume of matter are in continuous "kinetic" motion within an interatomic vacuum.

This "kinetic" theory is today replicated in all theoretical physics books and papers.

And evidently you all collectively accept this essentially vacuous theory of the ultimate structure of matter.

Even when it is experimentally proven that such nonmaterial, perfectly vacuous spaces cannot be isolated or created.

I suggest you go to a library and take out Henning Genz’s book “Nothingness – The science of empty space” in which he states:-

“The laws of physics will not admit the existence of a completely empty space.”

In other words, atoms are not separated by a hypothetical “vacuum”.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

https://sciborg.us/atomic-structure-theories-and-models/

This paper lists numerous attempts to explain the general and evidently absolute beliefs of theoretical physicists (including all here) in the “existence” of a variety of subatomic and interatomic particles, such as totally unexaminable “protons” and “neutrons” and “electrons”, all of which were created historically by physicists to fill their assumed interatomic vacua/aethers.

Examples:-

Atomic Models

Atomic models are used to represent the atoms of materials in order to understand their physical, chemical, and electrical properties. There are several atomic models, such as Dalton’s atomic theory, Thomson atomic model, Rutherford atomic theory, and Bohr’s atomic theory.

Subatomic Particles

Atoms as a whole are composed of numerous subatomic particles. Protons and neutrons reside in the nucleus at the center of the atom, while electrons orbit the nucleus at various distances. Protons have a positive charge and neutrons are electrically neutral. Electrons, on the other hand, have a negative charge.

So you apparently believe that “Electrons orbit the nucleous” in vacuum.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

Henning Genz

In his book "Nothingness- The Science of Empty Space"

Chapter 5 "Crowded Space"

"Defining the Vacuum"

"Today we know this is impossible. There is no such thing as absolutely empty space"

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

So, not one of you can prove that your hypothetical "vacuum" can be isolated in experiment, 

and so is a possible "state".

Roger Munday

[John-Erik Persson]

What no one can prove proves nothing

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[Roger Munday]

Indeed, there are physicists who believe in the "existence" of vacua/aethers.

[John-Erik Persson]

Lack of proof means that

1. existence not proved
2. nonexistence not proved

and both cases are possible

[Roger Munday]

So not one of you can prove that your hypothetical vacuum can be isolated and is a possible state.

[John-Erik Persson]

Roger

You have not proved anything 

[Roger Munday]

John-Erik

I have not tried to prove anything.

I left that to Henning Genz.

Did you not read his paper?

[John-Erik Persson]

No

[Roger Munday]

"Ignorance is bliss"

[Roger Munday]

Let's try and understand light in terms of an excitation of empty space-even if that makes no immediate sense. We might alternatively understand light in terms of a field, as we introduced that term in chapter 2. But light differs from the fields of temperature distributions, of sound, or of water in fluid motion described there: Whereas those phenomena are due to the composite action or motion of molecules at a more elementary level, light has its own reality at that level. It cannot be understood in terms of an oscillation of some matter that also exists in the dark-no, light is nothing but just that, light. It is an oscillation of an abstract nature, equivalent to a set of numbers that are assigned to each point in space. True, these abstract numbers have implications-most notably, they imply energy. But while a water wave transports energy by the movement of water molecules, the passing of a light wave does not mean that anything material oscillates. The energy of the liquid wave is the energy associated with gravitation and motion of its molecules; the energy of light is energy pure and simple, associated with every illuminated point in space.”
― Henning Genz, Nothingness: The Science Of Empty Space

[Frank Fernandes]

Henning's paragraph is THRASH.

 

F V Fernandes

On. Target Molecules Biotech Inc

Website: O.TM Biotech Inc. / Linkedin 

Research Work Website: Aither 186

Book: The Ether Model

 

 

[Roger Munday]

Henning Genz asserts that:-

the passing of a light wave does not mean that anything material oscillates.

This is where Genz goes wrong.

All the continuous atoms of the atmosphere align N-S magnetically and continuously with the N-S magnetic poles of the Earth.

This is how the fields propagate within the Earth's continuous  magnetic atomic fields.

But all you theoretical physicists are conditioned into believing in a hypothetical interatomic and universal vacuum.

Within which no continuous forces could possibly act.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

For those who believe, in the total absence of proof, that interatomic vacua "exist".

I suggest you read this paper.

https://romunpress.co.nz/romunnose/continuous-magnetic-atoms/

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

https://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae290.cfm

"Practically, it is impossible to make a perfect vacuum. 

A perfect vacuum is defined as a region in space without any particles.

Note that a perfect vacuum has by definition a temperature of 0'K. 

Reaching 0'K is practically impossible."

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

"Kinetic" Atoms

Apparently you collectively believe that atoms are essentially “kinetic” and that there is a totally unexaminable spatial “separation” between such atoms.

Which “separation” you and apparently all “physicists” assume is filled with totally unexaminable subatomic “particles”, which are assumed to have no influence on the hypothetical “kinetic motions” of all atoms.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

https://forums.feedspot.com/physics_forums/

If you key in the above “list of theoretical physics forums” you will find numerous theoretical physics forums discussing the ultimate structures of matter.

These fora are based upon the collective assumption that atoms are “kinetic” and are not continuously in contact, but are all in constant kinetic motion within an interatomic vacuum and are continuously colliding with other adjacent atoms.

There is one unexplained problem with this atomic theory and this is that it is practically speaking impossible to isolate a perfect vacuum in experiments.

And you collectively believe that these “kinetic” atoms are all in motion and are colliding with other atoms within such a hypothetical “vacuum”.

In this respect it is practically impossible to create, to isolate, a perfect vacuum in experiments, i.e. it is impossible to remove all gaseous matter from a compartment in such experiments.

But it is generally assumed by physicists that this vacuum state “exists” and all of theoretical physics is based upon the existence of such an unexaminable space between atoms in all the states of matter both locally and universally.

And this hypothetical vacuum clearly does not "work".

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

Atmospheric Air and Water

“Dry” air contains 78% nitrogen atoms plus 21% oxygen atoms, plus traces of argon and CO2 particles.

“Wet” air additionally contains collective volumes of H2O particles, the greater particulate volumes of which are observed to refract light.

Observed rainwater droplets are collectively composed of H2O particles.

Roger Munday

[Frank Fernandes]

Roger Munday,

Too many misconceptions.

Corrections in purple.

Atmospheric Air and Water

“Dry” air contains 78% nitrogen atoms molecules plus 21% oxygen atoms molecules, plus traces of argon atoms and CO2 particles molecules.

“Wet” air additionally contains collective volumes of H2O particles giant molecules, the greater particulate volumes of which are observed to refract light.

Observed rainwater droplets are collectively composed of H2O particles giant molecules.

 

F V Fernandes

On. Target Molecules Biotech Inc

Website: O.TM Biotech Inc. / Linkedin 

Research Work Website: Aither 186

Book: The Ether Model

 

 

[Roger Munday]

"Dry" air contains 78% nitrogen atoms and 21% oxygen atoms plus traces of argon atoms and CO2 particles.

"Wet" air contains collective volumes of H2O droplets, the greater volumes of which refract light rays.

Observed rainwater droplets are collectively composed of H2O particles.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

There are numerous theoretical physics forums exemplified here:-

www.science forums.net/forum/18-Modern and Theoretical Physics/

All of which assume without any experimental evidence whatsoever that interatomic vacua “exist”.

Roger Munday

[Roger Munday]

John-Erik,

Jag har kopierat ett läst ditt inlägg = "Turmoil in Physics".

In this paper there is no proof of the "existence" of vacua.

Roger Munday  

[John-Erik Persson]

Roger

Light and gravity prove ether's existence

John-Erik

On Fri, Apr 3, 2026 at 8:40 PM Roger Munday <munda...@gmail.com> wrote:

John-Erik,

I repeat:-

There are numerous theoretical physics forums exemplified here:-

www.science forums.net/forum/18-Modern and Theoretical Physics/

All of which assume without any experimental evidence whatsoever that interatomic vacua “exist”.

Roger Munday

On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 at 00:52, John-Erik Persson <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roger

Assumptions are OK as long as we know that they are unproved

John-Erik

On Fri, Apr 3, 2026 at 3:05 AM Roger Munday <munda...@gmail.com> wrote:

John Erik,

You say:-

“Transfer of the longitudinal force of gravity and the transverse forces of light means that there is a medium with mass” and “space cannot be completely empty and not vacuum”.

The problems are the pure assumptions (of theoretical physicists alone) , firstly that atoms are centrally composed of relatively minute nuclei that exist within unchangeable and essentially vacuous subatomic volumes, and secondly that variable “extratomic” vacua also “exist” to separate such essentially vacuous atoms.

Roger Munday

On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 at 08:12, John-Erik Persson <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roger

Roligt att du kan svenska (Swedish).

Transfer of the longitudinal force of gravity and the transverse forces of light means that there is a medium with mass, and we call it ether. So, space cannot be completely empty and not vacuum, since vacuum means empty.

John-Erik

[Roger Munday]

John-Erik,

You say:- “light and gravity prove aethers existence”.

If your “ether” existed, i.e. as a nonmaterial and universal “space”, then this “space” could not transmit the observed forces acting between any two material bodies of any physical dimension, e.g. between two massive metal spheres suspended in close proximity on wires in experiments above the Earth’s surface.

Magnetic atoms

Magnetism is observed to act continuously on a magnetic compass needle throughout the Earth’s atmosphere.

So this proves that there is a continuum of magnetic atmospheric atoms.

If the Earth’s atmosphere included either an “interatomic vacuum” or a noninteractive “interatomic aether” then no interactive force could possibly be transmitted between two material bodies of any dimension.

E.g. between galaxies, stars, planets and moons.

Roger Munday

[John-Erik Persson]

Roger

You are wrong   Matter can interact with the ether by emission and absorption of ether particles   As I said

John-Erik

[Roger Munday]

John-Erik,

No, you are wrong.

You have been educated ( as I was in tertiary education) into a belief that a vacuum "exists" between (and even within) atoms.

And experiments have attempted to extract all atoms from a piston type compartment, in order to prove that it is a possible "state".

However these experiments have all failed to remove all gaseous matter.

In such a compartment the gaseous matter contained is subjected to extremely low pressures and some of it is expelled, but in such extreme circumstances atoms on the internal metal faces of the apparatus liquify to greater volumes and, with greater forces applied to the piston these (and more such liquid metal atoms) subsequently evaporate volumetrically to the gaseous state.

No absolute "vacuum" exists universally.

Roger Munday

[John-Erik Persson]

Roger

I did not say that

Instead, even if we could remove all atomic particles there would nevertheless exist subatomic particles.

John-Erik

[Roger Munday]

John-Erik,

You say:- “light and gravity prove aethers existence”.

If your “ether” existed, i.e. as a nonmaterial and universal “space”, then this “space” could not transmit the observed forces acting between any two material bodies of any physical dimension, e.g. between two massive metal spheres suspended in close proximity on wires in experiments above the Earth’s surface.

Magnetic atoms

Magnetism is observed to act continuously on a magnetic compass needle throughout the Earth’s atmosphere.

So this proves that there is a continuum of magnetic atmospheric atoms.

If the Earth’s atmosphere included either an “interatomic vacuum” or a noninteractive “interatomic aether” then no interactive force could possibly be transmitted between two material bodies of any dimension.

E.g. between galaxies, stars, planets and moons.

Roger Munday

[John-Erik Persson]

Roger M

The ether is material and matter absorbs (and emits) ether particles. So, interactions in both directions between matter and ether.

John-Erik

[Roger Munday]

Continuous wires of metal atoms pulled out between two atomic masses.

Roger Munday

[John-Erik Persson]

Interaction by pulled out atoms as you describe does not exclude the interaction by the ether as we call gravity.

[Roger Munday]

No theoretical physicist can prove in experiment that an interatomic vacuum/aether "exists".

These are continuous gold atoms in nanowires that are progressively drawn out between two gold particles.

Roger Munday