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How to update "3.2 Enhancement Packed" 3.12 without re-installation

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PK

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Jul 22, 2002, 2:26:05 AM7/22/02
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One of our clients used to be using 'privacy' NW3.12 with 3.2 Enhancement
Packed installed. Now he gets an legal copy of NW3.12 somewhere. My
question is
1. From Novell, 3.2 Enhancement Pack should be purchased and installed for
each server separately. Could it be uninstalled and then apply the sixty
something patches from Novell.
2. Does the patch(es) for LOADER update SERVER.EXE (which as far as I know
storing SERIAL NO. of NW) ? If not, could I just replace the SERVER.EXE ?

best regards,

P.K.


Tim Scotland

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Jul 22, 2002, 6:33:37 AM7/22/02
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Congratulations on making them legal :-)

You do need to patch the Server.exe. Copy the version that they have
purchased on to the server, in the nwserver (or server.312) directory
you will find an EXE called Lswap.exe I cannot remember the syntax,
but if you run it with a /? it will tell you how to use it.

Then you are ready for the off.

Tim

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Dave Lunn

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Jul 22, 2002, 8:01:57 AM7/22/02
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PK,

If I understand your question correctly, then what you need to do is the
following:

1. Remove all traces of the pirated version since you have no way of
knowing what the devil is there for sure, and now that the client is legal
you don't want that compromised because of a file or files left from the
pirate version.

2. the 3.2 Enhancement pack is no longer available. You can download all
the patched for 3.12 (appended to end of this post). If you do so, you can
setup directories to correspond to the destination directories on the
server(s) for most of the patches and for the four or five that must install
you drop them into their own directories. With that done, you can update a
server in 15-20 minutes. If you burn it all to a CD you can do lots of
servers.

Lswap answers help inquiries. (Lswap /?).
--
Dave Lunn
NSCV Sysop
http://support.novell.com

NetWare v3.12 (Newest to Oldest) Available From:

http://support.novell.com/filefinder/147/index.html

ODIWAN1.EXE ODI WAN update to support ODI 3.31 30MAR2000
TCP312.EXE Common TCPIP.NLM for NW 3.12 30MAR2000
IPX660.EXE IPX Updates for NetWare 3.1x/4.1x 30MAR2000
ODI33G.EXE LAN Drivers 30MAR2000
STRTL8A.EXE STREAMS.NLM & TLI.NLM 30MAR2000
CLIBAUX1.EXE Updated Clibaux.nlm 08DEC1999
312PTD.EXE NetWare 3.12 OS Patches 22NOV1999
TTSY2K.EXE Y2K update for TTS 02NOV1999
312Y2KP2.EXE NetWare 3.12 Year 2000 fixes 28SEP1999
LIB312D.EXE CLIB Updates for NetWare 3.12 20SEP1999
AFP11.EXE NetWare for Macintosh 3.12 update 12JUL1999
NWPAUP1A.EXE Latest NWPA/HAM/CDM/CDROM Support 08JUN1999
CDUP5A.EXE CDROM.NLM (pre NWPA) updates 04MAY1999
PU3X01.EXE Print Utilities 02FEB1999
SBACK6.EXE SBACKUP.NLM and supporting files 02FEB1999
LANDR9.EXE LAN driver updates 02FEB1999
SMSUP6.EXE SMS Functions Updated 02FEB1999
LANDR9.EXE LAN driver updates 02FEB1999
MPR31B.EXE NetWare Multiprotocol Router 09JAN1998
VRP386.EXE Vrepair Updates for 3.12 31JUL1997
NAM312.EXE OS2 and MAC NameSpace Updates for 3.12 29OCT1996
ATK307.EXE AppleTalk Protocol 29JAN1996
MON176.EXE MONITOR.NLM v1.76 18SEP1995
PS3X02.EXE Print Server 30JUN1995
PBURST.EXE Packet Burst Update 14JUN1994

Note, I'd apply the LIB312D update first.

You will find that the NWPAUP1A.EXE update (which requires Lib312D and
312PTD
to be in place) includes updates for EIDE support (IDEATA.HAM driver set)
which should provide >8G support for that new drive.


Kuen

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Jul 22, 2002, 10:40:51 AM7/22/02
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Thank you Tim and Dave !

That's means SERVER.EXE is updated somehow. BTW, how can I uninstall the
Enhancement Pack ? I've not checked out it yet!


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Barry Schnur

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Jul 22, 2002, 11:52:56 AM7/22/02
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>
>That's means SERVER.EXE is updated somehow. BTW, how can I uninstall the
>Enhancement Pack ? I've not checked out it yet!
There is no 'uninstall' option for the enhancement pack.

Regarding the LSWAP options:

The LSWAP.EXE (loader patch) applies updates to server.exe. There are at
least THREE areas where server.exe updates are needed:

1) Memory registration
2) Date handling (which also requires that LIB312D.EXE be in place)
3) Public symbol errors (which manifest when one tries to use current
specification disk and network card drivers).

Here is the procedure to use:

LSWAP EXE
============

The defaults used in the command lines are from Netware 4.1x handling so for
the typical 3.12 server update, if it does update automatically, you will
need to not only run it manually, but make sure that you use the correct path
setting.

Both LSWAP.EXE and LSWAP.NLM use the same command line options. First
option specifies the location to LOADER.EXE.

(DEFAULT:C:\NWSERVER\LOADER.EXE).

The second option specifies location to SERVER.EXE or MSERVER.EXE.

(DEFAULT: C:\NWSERVER\SERVER.EXE).


So, it the typical scenario where you need to run this manually from the DOS
prompt in the C:\Server.312 directory, you need to do the following:

1) Make sure that both LSWAP.EXE and LOADER.EXE are in the Server.312
directory.

2) Then use the following command syntax:

LSWAP C:\SERVER.312\LOADER.EXE C:\SERVER.312\SERVER.EXE

3) When this is done, you should end up with a SERVER.EXE with a new date and
a copy of the old server.exe as SERVER.OLD with the old date.


Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Sysop

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PK

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Jul 22, 2002, 10:30:36 PM7/22/02
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Once again, thanks Dave!
However, I nearly forget to tell you that the NW3.2 Enhancement pack are
also pirated. However, until now we just get the legal copy of NW3.12 on
hand, but no legal copy of NW3.2 Enhancement Pack! If it is really no way to
'uninstall' this Pack, how can I make the 'installed" Enhancement Pack to be
a legal one? So I would like to ask whether the only way to do is to
reinstall the patches (as you mentioned) to the server and then update
Server.exe. In addition, I have a look at the page that you have mentioned
(i.e. http://support.novell.com/filefinder/147/index.html); however, this
page contains more patches than you have mentioned before, so should I only
reinstall those patches that you mentioned in the order (from Oldest to
Newest) rather than all of them listed in this page? and I also found that
the date of some of these files listed in this page is somewhere not matched
with that you listed, so have these files listed in this page already
updated? Also, if I need to update Server.exe, which patches' Loader.exe &
LSWAP.nlm should I used?

Thanks!
PK
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PK

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Jul 22, 2002, 10:41:28 PM7/22/02
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Thanks Barry!

Could you tell me which patches' Loader.exe and LSWAP.nlm should I used?
Can the 'config.txt' generated by config utility really help us to learn
more about which patches or Enhancement pack that I have installed?

PK

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Dave Lunn

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Jul 22, 2002, 10:58:22 PM7/22/02
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PK,

Unfortunately your customer did this to themselves, and there will be some
pain in fixing it.

The 3.2 EP being pirated must also be removed.

Were it My system I would do a complete reinstall except for the data.
Should there be a problem in the future, any pirated software present
whatsoever could result in prosecution. Aside from the legalities, you just
don't know what you have, and as a result you might be inviting even worse
problems than prosecution if you use it.

If you install the patches on thhe list you're good to go.

The config is a very important tool for you. It will give you a reference
for future problem solving.

Lswap is a maybe thing. Sometimes the loader doesn't get properly updated
and sometimes it does. If you get memory problems where you can't recognize
all of what's in the box, or you get funky dates *then* run Lswap, otherwise
you are probebly OK.

I would watch ebay and the other auctions for a 3.2 EP they show up from
time to time.

Barry Schnur

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Jul 23, 2002, 2:26:30 AM7/23/02
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All LSWAP is going to do is update the existing server.exe code with code from
the 312PTD patch.

Felton Green (SysOp)

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Jul 23, 2002, 10:53:24 PM7/23/02
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Hi PK

If you do the following you'll be legal in regards to the 3.2 enhancement
pack:

Get into the install utility and remove the 3.2 enhancement pack and
then:

I make the following directories:

c:\patches\system\4\nls
c:\patches\system
c:\patches\login
c:\patches\public
c:\dosdrive\server.312

I download all the updates and expand them out, oldest to newest one at a
time. Them I move the updated files into the directory they belong in.
system, public, login etc.

the dosdrive will be on the C: drive where the server.312 directory is
and they'll need to be loaded when the server is down. When all the files
are moved, except for the updates that require a separate install you can
xcopy the files from the patches directory to the server sys vol.

i.e. xcopy c:\patches\*.* f:\ /v /s /e

and then you're off and running.

--
Felton Green (SysOp)
Novell Support Connection Forums

PK

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Jul 23, 2002, 10:46:44 PM7/23/02
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Thanks Dave!

I would like to know if I really want to reinstall all the things back to
server, but retain the original server info, such as bindery info, user
info, etc, what files should I backup first? Until now, I only have a legal
copy of 3.12 NW on hand. In order to prevent NW 3.12 from getting errors
resulting from the problem of Y2K, what should I do is to reapply the
patches you mentioned previously back to the new server and update the
server.exe ?

PK

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PK

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Jul 23, 2002, 11:36:43 PM7/23/02
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Thanks Fleton for your great news!

However, Barry has previously said that the 3.2 EP can't be removed from the
server once installed. So is it possible to remove it from the server?

As far as I understand, what you meant in the post is that I uninstall the
3.2 EP first, then expands all the patches from
http://support.novell.com/filefinder/147/index.html in the order from Oldest
to newest one to the following directories in C: drive:


c:\patches\system\4\nls

c:\patches\login
c:\patches\public

c:\dosdirve\server.312

Afterwards, without down the server, xcopy all the files listed in the above
directory (except c:\dosdrive\server.312) through workstation to the
corresponding directory in SYS vol. Then, down the server, and use the files
in c:\dosdrive\server.312, such as loader.exe, Lswap.exe, etc. to update the
server.exe

However, I have tried to expand an 312PTd.exe and found that its directory
is totally different from what you have mentioned, such as
\312ptd\native\loader, \312ptd\native\other\auto, \312ptd\native\start,
etc., so what should I do for this patches?

Thanks Felton!
PK

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Felton Green (SysOp)

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Jul 24, 2002, 12:03:53 AM7/24/02
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Hi

Removing the 3.2 enhancement pack should be able to be accomplished as I
described and installing the updates will make the installation legal.

and do the expansion on a WORKSTATION and not the server.
The update belongs in the patches\server.312 directory.

Dave Lunn

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Jul 24, 2002, 10:43:21 AM7/24/02
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You want to run bindfix twice and then save your .old file.
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