Re: Unable to Boot Netware 3.12 Image
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upgrading with a disk image:
http://www.cpafw.com/Netware_easy_disk_upgrade.htm
-Bob Carroll
"pragmasol" <prag...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I will try try the dos disk method.
> I made a bit by bit physical image.
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> It's the original box but the original drive was a seagate (120gigs).
> the current one is hitachi(40gigs), I don't know if that matters.
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> I'm currently writing the image to yet another disk (I've done it about
> 5 times now and it's painfully slow). Let's if that helps.
> But in the meantime, i'll try to dos disk method. What commands do I
> need to enter?
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Joseph Marton
> insufficient memory to run Netware 386 (requires at least 3 megabytes of
> extended memory).
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> I'm confused as I have 256MB of memory installed. Please advise.
Do you have either HIMEM.SYS or EMM386.EXE loaded? If so, either of
these memory managers will conflict with NetWare and must be unloaded
(commented out).
--
Joe Marton
Novell Knowledge Partner
Joseph Marton
> How can I tell if I do or not?
Look in AUTOEXEC.BAT & CONFIG.SYS.
> Also, how would I going about finding a Netware 3.12 expert
Doubt many of those exist any more.
Joseph Marton
> Where might I go to uncomment these files? This is my first experience
> with Novell 3.12.
HIMEM & EMM386 are part of DOS, not NetWare.
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Chicago, he'd be happy to be flown out to Southern California to fix your
problems. I certainly would.
However, we might be able to resolve your problems here.
It appears that your disk drive is not recognized. This is likely because
the wrong driver or no driver is being loaded for your hardware. Possibly
the wrong port address or interrupt request is being specified. Can you
confirm that the disk drive is a PATA drive, and NOT a SATA or SCSI drive?
Try typing,
LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=E PORT=1F0
at the console prompt. Please report the results back to us.
-Bob Carroll
"pragmasol" <prag...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> ok, DOS will start in one machine but not the other.
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> The contents of STARTUP.NCF says
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> PMLOAD C:\SERVER.312\PATCHES\312PTC\
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> :**PMLOAD LOADS all patches in the directory specified**
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> :(Commented out by Patchisntall) load npapatch
> load ideata port=1f0 inte=e
> load idecd
> rem load ISADISK port= 1F0 int=E
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> I really appreciate your help Magic31, you have been great! :)
Joseph Marton
> I can't speak for Joe, but I'll bet when the snow begins piling up in
> Chicago, he'd be happy to be flown out to Southern California to fix
> your problems.
Not for NetWare 3.12 problems. :-)
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symbol" errors. Now let's look at why it can't find the IDE interface.
I am assuming that your IDE interface is built into the motherboard, as
opposed to an add-on board plugged into a PCI slot. We have thus far
instructed the IDEATA module to look for the Master drive on the first IDE
channel (INT=E , PORT=1F0, note that the port address is the number one,
followed by the letter F, followed by the number zero).
It's possible that you do not physically have the disk drive set as
"Master", but rather "Slave" or "CS (Cable Select). These settings are
typically set with a jumper pin on the drive itself, next to the ribbon
cable.
It's also possible that you don't have the drive connected to the Primary
IDE interface connector, but rather the Secondary channel.
Yet another possibility is that you have specified custom port/interrupt
settings for the IDE channels in your system BIOS.
Let's first try leaving everything the way it is, and just change the Port
and Interrupt settings. Try the following, and if you get a good response
you can stop:
LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=E PORT=3F6
LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=F PORT=170
LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=F PORT=3F6
Ideally, we would like you to move the disk drive cabling and settings to
the Primary Channel, Master drive. The BIOS settings, if configurable,
should be to enable the Primary IDE channel, and use the settings of Port
address 1F0, and interrupt 14. Then the very first load command we
discussed in the previous post should work.
-Bob Carroll
"pragmasol" <prag...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> (continued)
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> Module initialization failed.
> Module IDEATA.HAM NOT loaded.
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memory for them, and apparently read it wrong from an Internet source.
Sorry about that.
There is an indication that the first load command worked, as evidenced by
the lack of an error message, then the subsequent error message indicating
that the "Attempt to reinitialize re-entrant module FAILED".
So it might be that Netware found the interface, but not a drive. There are
two components when using the more modern Netware disk drivers, the "HAM"
module, and the "CDM" module. Usually the CDM module loads automatically,
as soon as the system reads what's attached to the host adapter. Not so
this time.
Could it be that your hard disk drive is not attached to the primary IDE
channel cable, and set to be the "Master" device?
DOWN the server, check the drive cabling, check that the drive is at the end
of the cable (if a two-device IDE cable), plugged into the primary IDE
channel on the motherboard, and that the hard drive is jumpered to be the
"Master" device. Remove any other device which is plugged into the same
cable, then restart the server. Type
UNLOAD IDEATA.HAM
LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=E PORT=1F0
LOAD IDEHD.CDM
If this does not work, I would suspect that the cabling and jumper settings
are still incorrect, or that the BIOS settings for the primary IDE channel
are nonstandard or disabled. It is also possible that the you may need to
specify in the BIOS settings that you are NOT loading a Plug and Play OS.
Someone may have also modified the standard IRQ settings for the IDE
channels in the BIOS.
-Bob Carroll
"pragmasol" <prag...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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>> > (continued)
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>> > Module initialization failed.
>> > Module IDEATA.HAM NOT loaded.
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> After running LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=E PORT=3F6
> I get a prompt that says "Supported PORT options are: 1F0, 170, IE8,
> 168."
> Then on the next line it says "Select PORT Option:"
> i chose 1FO and nothing happens.
>
>
> Running all of those load ideata.ham commands, it still prompts me to
> select a PORT.
> LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=E PORT=3F6
> RESPONSE "Supported PORT options are 1F0,170, 1E8, 168"
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> I triad all of these port options and none work.
>
> LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=F PORT=170
> Response: "supported PORT options are : 1F0, 1E8, 168."
> I traid each of these ports for INT=F and received the :no apdater
> found at specified port address.
> Attempt to reinitialize re-entrant module FAILED"
> LOAD IDEATA.HAM INT=F PORT=3F6
> "supported PORT options are : 1F0, 1E8, 168"
>
> same deal.
>
> ideas?