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Re: Netware 6.5 Licensing question

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Marcel Cox

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Feb 10, 2010, 2:37:28 AM2/10/10
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You should never mix unlimited and limited licenses for the same NetWare
version in the same tree. Once you have got an unlimited licenses, you
should remove all other licenses for the same NetWare version and *only*
use the unlimited license.
This is because unlimited and limited licenses are fundementally different
in the way they operate and mixing them causes problems. Unlimited
licenses are only server licenses and tell the server which uses them that
the server should not care about user licenses. For limited licenses
however you have separate server and user licenses. The server license
tells the server that it has to use the limited licensing model and that
the server should look for user licenses. Upon user login, the server will
then check whether the user already has a license certificate associated,
and if not, it will assign one. Novell has actually done away with the
limited licenses for a number of years now. For all license purchases over
the last years, Novell has always distributed unlimited license
certificates, and at the end, they even stopped doing that and simply
included the unlimited license certificate on the installation CD.

The solution to your problem is as you already suggested yourself. E.g.
remove all "limited" Netware 6.5 licenses and replace them with the
unlimited license certificate. The most important thing to delete is the
limited NetWare 6.5 server licenses. Once those licenses are replaced, the
servers won't even bother to look for user licenses any more. If however
you forget to remove one of the "wrong"server licenses, you will remain
stuck with licensing problems.
You can install that same license in multiple contexts if you want for
performance reasons.

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Marcel Cox

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Feb 10, 2010, 11:17:29 AM2/10/10
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jpeteet wrote:

> In NWADMIN the 6.5 user
>licenses still show to be consumed by these users. I understand that
>they will hold the licenses for 90 days. So the job is only halfway done
>I guess. I did not have enough time before users started arriving and
>logging in today to get that done. I am guessing that I need to do this
>when none of the users are logged in? My main question is, will it cause
>them to not see the 6.5 server by deleting the 6.5 stratefied license
>files? I am expecting it not to be a problem because the 6.5 unlimited
>license will allow them to connect without attempting to consume a 6.5
>user license. Thank you.

It's normal that the users still show as using the user licenses because
as you correctly indicated, they are used for 90 days. However you can
safely delete them because the servers no longer check the NetWare 6.5
user licenses and deleting the license objects will have no impact on user
connections. Just make sure you don't delete a NetWare 6.0 license by
mistake because those licenses may continue to be used by your 6.0 servers.

Marcel Cox

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Feb 11, 2010, 2:37:31 AM2/11/10
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jpeteet wrote:

> but will not map drives to one of the 6.0
>servers.

Ok, so it is the NetWare 6.0 mapping that is not working. From your
original question, I had wrongly concluded that you had no problems with
your 6.0 servers but you had problems mapping a 6.5 drive.

Well, the error you get typically derives from the impossibility to get a
license. This can have 2 causes:

1) There are no licenses left. This can easily be verified by checking the
property of the user license object to see how many licenses are used and
how many are free

2) The user is in a context where it doesn't have access to a license. You
should be aware that in NetWare 6.x environments, user licenses are
searched for starting from the user context and going up to the root. If
there is no matching license container between the user context and the
root, then the user will not be able to get a license. The user cannot use
licensing objects in a parallel container. This means that the user
license objects need to be put in a container bing above all containers
holding the users that need access to the license.

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