Re: ConsoleOne and Windows 7
Thorsten Kampe
> With the rapid oncoming inevitability of Windows 7 and having
> completely skipped Vista as a viable Enterprise OS I've been doing a
> bit of testing.
Update Java (use the one from the JDK - not the JRE) and see it helps.
Thorsten
Marcel Cox
XP. About the time NetWare 6.0 was relased more than half a dozen years
ago, Novell decided that the future direction was iManager and that all
new poroducts should be managed through iMAnager. Alas, as so often,
Novell doesn't have the power to impose its own decisions to its own
product teams and so some teams continued to use ConsoleOne as their main
management tool, even though the death of ConsoleOne was clearly and
loudly announced in advance. This now leaves the customers in the bad
situation that a recently shipped product like Groupwise 8 uses a dead an
unsupported Management tool ConsoleOne.
Now the fact that you first got ConsoleOne to work is because you have
been using an older version of ConsoleOne which didn't check for the
client version yet. That last version of consoleOne does in fact include a
client version check and refuses to run on a client with a version number
less than 4.91 (assuming of course the v4.91 client for Windows XP). Now
the newer clients for Vista and beyond have version numbers 1 and 2 which
are of course lower than 4.91 and therefore ConsoleOne refuses to run. You
can however cheat and make ConsoleOne think you have a newer client
version. This is described here:
http://www.novell.com/support/viewContent.do?externalId=7003089
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Marcel Cox
>Cheers Thorsten. Unfortunately this has not effected the problem. So
>just to clarify I am now useing JRE 6u14 installed from the JDK
>installer.
Maybe the Java update should be clarified.
On Windows, ConsoleOne does not use the main Java you have installed on
yoru computer. Instead, ConsoleOne includes a full java runtime in its won
directory structure and uses that one. So in order to make ConsoleOne use
a newer java version, you have to replace the jre directory in the
ConsoleOne directory structure.
You should also note that the newest ConsoleOne is written for Java 1.4.2.
If you use Java 5 or Java 6, ConsoleOne may not work 100% correctly.
Esepcially, some plugins are known to not work with current Java versions
and require the obsolete Java 1.4.2.
Finally, you should be aware that updating the Java for ConsoleOne will
neither fix the version check, nor the communication issues after a
workstation wakeup. In fact, the version check is in the binary code in
consoleone.exe and the communications are handled by the client and by
dlls that interface Java with the Novell client.
David Gersic
> Being completely aware of how annoying it is to hear someone b*tch and
> moan about and issue and not offer any solutions I would offer my
> services/suggestions as a long time admin for a potential remodeling of
> iManager to a much more usable and admin friendly interface however I
> have no idea either who to talk to or whether they would listen.
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
That's the correct place to submit enhancement requests. It will be
routed to the product manager. This is a new system, so I'm not used to
how it works yet. From the PMs I have talked to, they're quite interested
in hearing from customers, so this has the potential to be a really good
mechanism for feedback.
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Marcel Cox
though this may not have been clearly communicated to the public, Novell
has found an internal comparoise for the Groupwise/ConsoleOne problem.
ConsoleOne has now been transferred to Groupwise developement and the
latest updates for ConsoleOne are only included in the ConsoleOne version
that is bundled with Groupwise. So for instance, the latest version of
Console that if I remember correctly has the Vista check removed, is
included with Groupwise 8 SP1, but is not available as standalone download.
Marcel Cox
>So then will the version included with Groupwise 8 SP1 work without any
>extra effort in windows 7?
I haven't tried myself, but it is suposed to.
Note that this only applies to ConsoleOne itself and the Groupwise plugin.
Other plugins might not work on Windows 7.
Marcel Cox
>anyone else have the issue where you can open Console One in Windows 7
>but it makes windows 7 disable visual effects for the OS while its open?
>Any fixes?
This is because ConsoleOne uses an old Java version. This is a known
limitation for which there is no official solution.
Thorsten Kampe
> anyone else have the issue where you can open Console One in Windows 7
> but it makes windows 7 disable visual effects for the OS while its open?
> Any fixes?
Replace the jre folder with one from the current JDK.
Thorsten