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Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 7, 2009, 2:27:52 PM8/7/09
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Dferraro,
> Due to a variety of reasons, I no longer have the original 5.1 license
> disks. Is it possible to move the license from one 5.1 server to another
> without them? I have a 5.1 server with 250 connections that I am
> decommissioning. I also have a 5.1 server with 15 connections. I would
> like to be able to move the 250 connections to the server that only has
> 15 connections. I can either overwrite the 15 or add to it. Is there a
> way of doing this without the original 5.1 license disks? Thanks
>
Are the servers in the same tree? If so, just reassign the licenses.

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Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 7, 2009, 4:01:32 PM8/7/09
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Dferraro,
> > Hi Anders, Yes, they are in the same tree. How do I re-assign the
> > licenses? I am unsure of the procedure. Is it down thru NWconfig or
> > RConsole? Thanks

Easiest would to use NWadmin32. Just look at the license objects.

Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 8, 2009, 2:00:06 AM8/8/09
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Dferraro,
> Hi Anders, I still don't know what you mean. Can you provide the steps
> that you are talking about? As I don't have the disks, I cannot afford
> to make a mistake with this. It has to be done correctly the first time.
> Thanks

Licenses are held in DS and not on the physical server. Just make sure that the server that is to remain is the Master replica, then just run NWadmin32. Find the license objects. Can you see them?

Under each license container you will find server and user licenses. Can you see them? Open them up and look at their assignments. I am sure you will see where assignments are made.

When you have reassigned, just make all your users connect to the server that is to remain. Check that they all get licenses from that and not the other server. This also is something you see on the license objects. See:

http://www.novell.com/documentation/nw51/?page=/documentation/nw51/nlsscenu/data/a2b7xd4.html

When you are done and all works, just remove the server, using the normal procedure, ie remove DS from it in nWConfig, then clean up tree, then turn off.

Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 10, 2009, 1:36:55 PM8/10/09
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Dferraro,
> I have ConsoleOne not NWadmin32. I see the user connection object
> Novell+Netware 5 Conn SCL + 510 with 3 S/Ns under it. I can see the
> properties on all objects. I do not see how to reassign them. There
> doesn't seem to be any way of doing it. Thanks
>
Rightclick on one of the serials, proprties, assignments

Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 10, 2009, 4:04:08 PM8/10/09
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Dferraro,
> I've tried that already. I get tabs for NDS Rights, Other, Rights to
> Files and Folders. Under Other is Edit Attributes:NLSLSPAssignment. I
> modified the entry to reflect the where I want the license to be used.
> However, it is still in the old OU. I can't seem to find a way to move
> it to the new OU. Thanks
>
You must be missing the licensing snapins. You also probably need a
reboot or l�nload/load NLSLSP for the server to consume the license. At
least is that the case with NW 6.x

What does Attributes:NLSLSPAssignment contain right now?

Marcel Cox

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Aug 10, 2009, 4:38:56 PM8/10/09
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dferraro wrote:

>I've tried that already. I get tabs for NDS Rights, Other, Rights to
>Files and Folders. Under Other is Edit Attributes:NLSLSPAssignment. I
>modified the entry to reflect the where I want the license to be used.
>However, it is still in the old OU. I can't seem to find a way to move
>it to the new OU. Thanks

1) To move the license, you should move the license container (assuming
there are no other licenses in it that you don't want to move). For this,
you should first turn the license container into a partition and then you
can move it.

2) Once you have move the license, remove the server related licensing
objects (NLS_LSP...) and run setupnls.nlm on the server console to
recreate them

3) Only use NWADMN32 to define license assignments. ConsoleOne doesn't
have a licensing plugin and as such doesn't understand what to do with
licensing objects. NWADMN32 however (when run from a NetWare server)
includes licensing plugins and knows exactly what to do when you make
licensing assignments and it can also give you usage information about
licenses.

4) Be aware that there are server licenses and connection licenses. A
server needs a server license to start with. Only when the server has a
server license assigned, it will look for connection licenses.

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Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 11, 2009, 5:37:55 AM8/11/09
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You must use NWAdmin32. You also probably need a
reboot or l�nload/load NLSLSP for the server to consume the license. At
least is that the case with NW 6.x. See Marcel's posting.

Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 11, 2009, 7:38:08 AM8/11/09
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Marcel Cox,

> To move the license, you should move the license container
>
But is a license move neessary, assuming 5.1? Would it not be enough to
just reassign the licenses to the other server as 5.1 licenses are
assigned per server?

Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 11, 2009, 1:30:16 PM8/11/09
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Dferraro,
> Do I have to do this with no users logged in?
>
Id recommend you do so, yes, assuming you have users connected to the
server you take away licenses from, they will be logged out.

Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 13, 2009, 9:14:36 AM8/13/09
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Dferraro,
> I was able to move the license using NWAdmin32. When I run a report, I
> get conflicting info regarding the licenses. On the system where I moved
> the license, it shows what I would expect.

> However, on another system
> that I didn't touch it doesn't show any licenses which can't be correct
> as the users are not having any issues with the server and it does not
> report in the error log any license violations.

Is that a wholly separate tree?

> Can the license count be
> verified using some other means other then NWAdmin32? I thought that
> there was a command that you could run at the console prompt that would
> indicate the number of licenses.

That was on NW 4.x. On 5.x and up, you can easily look at the usage of
individual license objects. There is also LMSCHECK.EXE, the tool Novell
themselves use for audits.

Marcel Cox

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Aug 13, 2009, 5:40:17 PM8/13/09
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dferraro wrote:

>I thought that
>there was a command that you could run at the console prompt that would
>indicate the number of licenses.

Depending on the patch level of your server, the VERSION command may
provide some licensing information, not how many licenses are used, but at
least what licenses your server has found and is using.

Dave Parkes

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Aug 14, 2009, 5:41:01 AM8/14/09
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To dferraro

>I thought that
>there was a command that you could run at the console prompt that would
>indicate the number of licenses.

Maybe something like 'pm display' ?, anyway, TID 10060109 may help

Cheers Dave


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Anders Gustafsson

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Aug 19, 2009, 1:14:03 PM8/19/09
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Dferraro,
> I was able to move the licenses and all seems well. Thanks for all of
> the help everyone!
>
Good and thanks for closing the loop!
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