Re: Netware 4.1 and XP Client

[Peter Kuo]

NetWare 4.x doesn't use IP for NCP connectivity - all goes via IPX. So,
you have to ensure IPX is good, and SAP is not blocked.

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Peter
eDirectory Rules!
http://www.DreamLAN.com

[Wallgames.com]

First, go ahead and use the latest client - 4.91 SP5. It works just fine
with XP and 4.1. It also works fine with 3.12, 3.2, 4.11, 4.2 and later
versions.

Install using a custom install. Deselect every option offered, including
NMAS and NICI.

Install IPX ONLY. Do NOT use IP and IPX, or any of the other choices.
Select eDirectory rather than bindery.

-Bob Carroll

"kalwein" <kal...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> Hello folks,
>
> I recently fired up an old (1997) Proliant server running Netware
> 4.1. Amazingly, all drives booted just fine after the drives were
> reseated. I can get onto this beast just fine from DOS, but I'm having a
> tough time with the XP client.
>
> I downloaded the 4.83 client, as this seemed to be the general
> recommendation. I can't get this client to see the server or the tree. I
> can't remember what the tree is supposed to be, anyway. I've made sure
> at this point that both IP and IPX are loaded and tweaked the IPX so
> NLSP is also running. The workstation can ping the server, so network
> connectivity should be fine. Someone has suggested dropping the server
> IP in the tree field for the client, but that does zilch.
>
> What am I missing? It's been a while... Been busy in the Cisco and
> Unix world ..
>
> Thanks!
> :)
>
>
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[Wallgames.com]

Yes.

-Bob Carroll

"myleskb" <myl...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> Really, I can Install the latest client 4.91 SP5 for our old 4.11 Server
> with XP Pro clients? This is safe to do? (I see your special custom
> instructions) Thanks, Myles

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[Anthony Lees]

pc62 <pc...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

>
>Hi all,
>I have this network that I managed for the past 10 yrs. The dual mirror
>netware 4.11 server. with 25 users licence. It use thin coxial cable and
>I have some MSDOS machines still connected to this server. most the
>workstations are Windows ME and windows 98. now I upgrade this HP A430N
>desktop to connected to this server. because I use thin coxial cable. I
>have to find one old realtek RTL8029 pci adapter.

Just a thought but I use a small hub which has a BNC connector so I
can attach coax and twisted pair.

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TonyL

[Brent Wolfe]

The Home Edition of XP had IPX removed, among other changes made by M$ to
disable it's use in business environments. You must have IPX to connect to
the 4.X server, and will need to upgrade the system to XP Pro to make it
happen....
HTH

"pc62" <pc...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi all,
> I have this network that I managed for the past 10 yrs. The dual mirror
> netware 4.11 server. with 25 users licence. It use thin coxial cable and
> I have some MSDOS machines still connected to this server. most the
> workstations are Windows ME and windows 98. now I upgrade this HP A430N
> desktop to connected to this server. because I use thin coxial cable. I

> have to find one old realtek RTL8029 pci adapter. I plug in this old
> board and it find all the other windows workstations and can't find the
> server. this machine use XP sp2 home edition.
> I download this xp clints 491 xp5 from this site. but I can't get it to
> connect to the server. it say a neccesaary service is not up. can anyone
> help?
> Thank you in advance.
> Paul Cheung
>
>
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[Wallgames.com]

Try reinstalling the Novell client. Specify IPX-only (NO IP!!), deselect
all other options offered, such as NMAS, NICI, etc. Choose eDirectory
rather than bindery.

This should work with XP home, although it is not officially supported by
Novell.

-Bob Carroll

"pc62" <pc...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi all,
> I have this network that I managed for the past 10 yrs. The dual mirror
> netware 4.11 server. with 25 users licence. It use thin coxial cable and
> I have some MSDOS machines still connected to this server. most the
> workstations are Windows ME and windows 98. now I upgrade this HP A430N
> desktop to connected to this server. because I use thin coxial cable. I
> have to find one old realtek RTL8029 pci adapter. I plug in this old
> board and it find all the other windows workstations and can't find the
> server. this machine use XP sp2 home edition.
> I download this xp clints 491 xp5 from this site. but I can't get it to
> connect to the server. it say a neccesaary service is not up. can anyone
> help?
> Thank you in advance.
> Paul Cheung
>
>
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[Brent Wolfe]

Check the properties of the NIC; is IPX configured and bound to the network
card? If so, from the client login, advanced section, can you see the tree
at all?

"pc62" <pc...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> I got Windows XP Professional service pack 2. Install on the machine.
> but it still not working. It just can't find the server. any thoughts.
> Thank you.
> Paul

[Wallgames.com]

Have you tried clicking on the "Advanced" button of the Novell Client Login
window, then browsing for tree, context, and server by clicking on their
respective buttons?

-Bob Carroll

"pc62" <pc...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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>

> have try that already. just can't find the file server. is there
> anything I need to do on the server side? You guys talk about
> edirectory. but I don't know anything about it. I have installed this
> server decade ago and haven't done anything to it except a patch from
> Novell also decade ago. So I wonder if there are things I need to do
> with the server to work with XP?
> Thank you.
> Paul

[Haitch]

pc62,

> Well I don't see the nic card say bond to ther ipx like the other
> windows system, but I do see the ipx in the advance part od the property
> in the netwark card. so I guess it has bonded. but I still can't find
> the server. is it possible that I didn't have the tree installed?
> thank you.

What does "ipxroute config" from a DOS box on the XP client give you ?

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Hamish
Run multi-processor NetWare VM's with vmBoost
http://www.haitch.net

[Wallgames.com]

There is no reason why you should not be able to access both. I work with
installations which have and currently do this every day.

The next question would be whether you are accessing workgroups or domains
on the Windows side.

This may also be a question more properly addressed to the
novell.support.netware.client.winnt-2x-xp newsgroup.

-Bob Carroll

"pc62" <pc...@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> HI something strange happen yesterday. I reinstall the 4.91 client again
> and it find the server and connected! but I can't see the other windows
> machines again. I guess is one of the protocol that conflict with ip ans
> ipx. well if I can't get the two to work, I will stick with the netware
> server. that is more important to me.
> Thanks guys.
> Your help is really appreciated.
>
> Paul Cheung