Upgrading Perl 5.x

[d...@rhineland.mb.ca]

I have downloaded the latest version of perl for
netware of of the netware developer website and
when I run the install and restart the server
when it is done, I still have the same version
on the server. I'm trying to setup a forum
using cgi file and the program says that I need
to have version 5.004 or higher of perl and
netware 5.1 only has 5.003. Has anyone
successfully upgraded perl on a netware server?

[Rich Trudeau]

Hi,

You actually have to run 'perl sys:\system\toggle.pl' at the console.
This will convert your current perl to the leading edge version. The key
is that the leading edge version is still a beta. Toggle.pl allows you
to switch between the old perl and the le version(and back if you wish).
I have tried the new version and there are still some concerns. It is
not recommended to switch to leading edge perl 5.6.1 in the production
environment. If I remember correctly, I had to move some files to the
proper folders on sys. The instructions are not exactly correct(in
reference to the zipped file).
In reference to your need for a forum--You may want to check out Yabb.
(yabb.xnull.com)
You may have to remove a misplaced 'my' command(I can't remember exactly
which script it is in--but can look if you need me to), but overall it
runs fine for us on nw 5.1. I also recommend not to use the temporary
file option that is available in the setup.

Good luck.

Rich Trudeau
-Plymouth Public Schools

[Antonio.ma...@lhsystems.com]

Rich,

I am currently using YaBB and I am happy but the
sendmail functionality don't work in anyway.
Have you a better experience with it?

Thanks
Antonio

[Rich Trudeau]

Hi Antonio,

Yep, I have the sendmail working just fine. Technically, it should run
fine if you specify that you want to use smtp and not the actual
'sendmail' module which isn't found on netware.(Speaking about the unix
sendmail--not novell's version).
You will need to specify a mailserver as well.
A side note: Certain mail services will not accept emails without a
return-path. (Like Hotmail). But, it may depend on your mailserver (for
smtp). I have accounted for that and modified yabb's sendmail. (The
current yabb smtp version works fine--but as I mentioned, depending on
your mailserver, you might get returned messages from certain services)
If you run into that--please let me know.

Maybe we should consider moving the discussion over to the developer's
board?
If anyone thinks so--please let us know.

Thanks.

[Andrew Thorburn]

Hi,

I know that this is not really the place to ask, but here goes

In the vain of talking about YaBB. I have set it up to run on a Netware
5.1 server with SP3 and perl build 339 (5.003_07). I have had problems
running the administration and get the following error message:

Untrapped Error:
[Tue Oct 30 13:39:44 2001] YaBB.pl: [Tue Oct 30 13:39:44 2001]
YaBB.pl: Missing $ on loop variable at ./Sources/Admin.pl line
1001.

The setup works fine on UNIX and everything works. Asked at the support
forums but they have not said anything.

Any help would be appreaciated.

Andrew Thorburn

[Rich Trudeau]

Andrew Thorburn wrote:

> Hi,

>
> In the vain of talking about YaBB.

> Untrapped Error:

> [Tue Oct 30 13:39:44 2001] YaBB.pl: [Tue Oct 30 13:39:44 2001]
> YaBB.pl: Missing $ on loop variable at ./Sources/Admin.pl line
> 1001.

Hi,

You need to remove a "misplaced" 'my' in the sub setcensor2 function in
admin.pl. It's about 8 lines into the function-->Instead of
for each my $i (@lines) {
I had to use
for each $i (@lines) {
(No 'my')
This allows it to run, and I haven't seen a problem.
Also, do not run Yabb with the temporary files option. Netware doesn't do
well with unlinking the temp files fast enough. Again, this shouldn't cause a
major problem.

If you end up having problems with the smtp email then:
In the Subs script (sendmail function), I think I had to originally change :
my($proto) = (getprotobyname('tcp'))[2];
my($port) = (getservbyname('smtp', 'tcp'))[2];
to
my($proto) = (getprotobyname('tcp')) || 6;
my($port) = (getservbyname('smtp', 'tcp')) || 25;

One last thought:
You may not want to run the 'Rebuild Members List' option from the admin
screen. I have run into problems where Netware did some different things with
upper/lower case of the member file names.

hth

[Andrew Thorburn]

Rich,

Many thanks it now appears that everything seems to be working as it did on the
UNIX box.

Thanks

Andrew

[Rich Trudeau]

Happy to help.

Rich Trudeau
-Plymouth Public Schools