websearch indexing of ms-works-files *.wps and *.wks fails

ka...@kunze-stade.de

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Jan 19, 2004, 4:27:05 PM1/19/04

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After doing some tests with indexing I wonder why
search-runs on the file-types above do not provide any
results. Are these files not indexed?

Sincerely

Karl

AndersG

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Jan 20, 2004, 1:19:48 AM1/20/04

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> After doing some tests with indexing I wonder why
> search-runs on the file-types above do not provide any
> results. Are these files not indexed?
>

You mean that the files are skipped entirely? You have set it to index
those names?

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kku...@kunze-stade.de

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Jan 20, 2004, 3:32:16 AM1/20/04

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Yes, I selected "htm html pdf wks wps" to be indexed. But
when searching for words like "contract" or
"systemintegration" definetely found in these files (I
checked for the words at least in the wps-files before
searching) no results were found. I also saw some misses
with pdf. Are there some tids concerning the search
algorithm and finetuning?

Sincerely

Karl

>>> AndersG<dal...@nomail.to.me> 20.01.2004 07:19:48 >>>

AndersG

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Jan 20, 2004, 5:17:40 AM1/20/04

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> Yes, I selected "htm html pdf wks wps" to be indexed. But
> when searching for words like "contract" or
> "systemintegration" definetely found in these files (I
> checked for the words at least in the wps-files before
> searching) no results were found. I also saw some misses
> with pdf. Are there some tids concerning the search
> algorithm and finetuning?
>

OK. Let me ask the developers if indexing of Works files is supported.
With PDF indexing works 99% of the time, but due to the enormous
variation in PDF files, there may always be the odd PDF file where
NSearch fails.

Jim Michael

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:54:36 AM1/20/04

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kku...@kunze-stade.de wrote:
>
> Yes, I selected "htm html pdf wks wps" to be indexed. But
> when searching for words like "contract" or
> "systemintegration" definetely found in these files (I
> checked for the words at least in the wps-files before
> searching) no results were found.

My guess is that the search engine doesn't support the works file format.

> I also saw some misses
> with pdf. Are there some tids concerning the search
> algorithm and finetuning?

It is *critical* that you save PDFs using the "fast web search" option.
Without that, web search will not be able to index the metadata of the PDF.

--
Jim
NSC SYsop

Jim Michael

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:55:17 AM1/20/04

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Jim Michael wrote:

> It is *critical* that you save PDFs using the "fast web search" option.

Sorry, that should be "fast web VIEW"
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kku...@kunze-stade.de

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Jan 20, 2004, 11:47:02 AM1/20/04

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Ouch! Just checked into some of the pdf-files and "fast web
view" seems to be set to "no" in all cases. Looks as if I
will have to test the batch-functions in acrobat for a
conversion.

The files are generated through pdf-writer and since I could
find any setting for this in pdf-writer I guess we will have
to use distiller in future (or open and save as...)? Or are
there any tricks with Acrobat 5.0/pdf-writer to have this
"fast web view" enabled as standard?

Sincerely

Karl

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Jim Michael

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Jan 20, 2004, 12:58:17 PM1/20/04

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kku...@kunze-stade.de wrote:

> The files are generated through pdf-writer and since I could
> find any setting for this in pdf-writer I guess we will have
> to use distiller in future (or open and save as...)? Or are
> there any tricks with Acrobat 5.0/pdf-writer to have this
> "fast web view" enabled as standard?

If there are tricks to getting Acrobat to automatically save as "fast web
view", I'd love to know them! <g>. We too struggle with Acrobat's insane
interface. To date, we know of no way to get the fast web view other than
via SaveAs...

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AndersG

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Jan 21, 2004, 2:23:12 AM1/21/04

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> After doing some tests with indexing I wonder why
> search-runs on the file-types above do not provide any
> results. Are these files not indexed?
>

Sorry. Not supported. Only names are indexed. See this reply (I will
try to get a TID written)

"To the best of my knowledge, the contents of these files are not
indexed. We simply don't have any readers for them. Then again,
neither Word (up to 97) nor WordPerfect (up to 9) support these files
either.

I've had a number of occasions where a family member was "upgrading" to
Word from Works ...only to find that they couldn't transfer the files.
I found a tool once called Word-to-Word that did the trick ...but
nothing was easy.

Dave Parkes

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Jan 22, 2004, 4:58:05 PM1/22/04

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I just use the Batch operations from Acrobat on the whole directory
every so often

Cheers Dave

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Jim Michael

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Jan 23, 2004, 10:22:04 AM1/23/04

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Dave Parkes wrote:
>
> I just use the Batch operations from Acrobat on the whole directory
> every so often

How do you batch a "save as" to enable the "fast web view" option?

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Jim
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Dave Parkes

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Jan 24, 2004, 1:22:31 PM1/24/04

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Just run the Batch conversion widget, Fast WebView is one of the
options, down under the File menu in a full version of Acrobat 5

Also we use this as well to convert pretty much any old rubbish into
pdfs, http://www.adlibsys.com/