cloning to larger HD
Mike Jacoubowsky
of 9 gig SCSI drives almost a year ago...just waiting for me to find the
time to use them to replace the existing mirrored/duplexed (two controllers)
4 gig drives in the server now.
I remember reading someplace that you could actually use partition magic to
move across netware drive partitions. Is this true?
Thanks!
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Felton Green
Partition Magic on NetWare volumes? I don't know about that, but why not
install one of the drives and copy the information? Then use tcopy to get
the trustees?
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Don Crawford
> I remember reading someplace that you could actually use partition magic to
> move across netware drive partitions. Is this true?
>
Maybe ServerMagic? That's the one for NetWare.
-- Don Crawford
Novell Support Connection SysOp
Mike Jacoubowsky
one-shot use on a small (10-user) network.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Don Crawford" <Don.Cr...@Novell.Support.Connection> wrote in message
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Barry Schnur
Alternatively:
John Pence (a frequent contributor) put together this note which may be of
use here:
This process will let you swap the disk containing the sys volume with
another disk in the same server. Very useful for upgrading server hard
drives without using tape. (I've modified this to take into account the
likely need for the replacement drive to be a DOS boot drive with the OS)
This version of the note is modified for 3X use.
1) Install the new drive in the server.
2) Using FDISK, create a DOS partition -- say 100M.
3) Format the DOS partition with /S to include boot DOS files.
4) Copy all files from the 'to be replaced' DOS partition over to
the new drive with something like XCOPY C:\*.* D:\ /S /E /V
5) Restart Netware (from the original C drive).
6) Create a netware partition on the new drive.
7) Create a "newsys" volume on the new drive and mount it.
NOTE, make sure to add long file name support if the original volumes
had it.
8) Log in to the server as Supervisor and run BINDFIX. This will copy
the old bindery files to *.OLD and create new *.SYS files.
9) Run BINDFIX a second time to insure that the *.OLD and *.SYS files are
the same.
10) Copy data from sys to newsys -- note! Ncopy will not retain rights.
You will either need to use something like Arcserve's copy function,
or something like fstrust. (FSTrust can be found at www.dreamlan.com).
If rights are not an issue, then ncopy will work fine.
Also, Novell provides a downloadable utility for handling rights as
well -- TCOPY2.EXE (track it down at:
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/patlstdownload?file=/pub/updates/nwos/inw411/tcopy2.exe
11) Dismount sys
12) Dismount newsys
13) Load Install from one of the DOS partitions.
14) Rename sys to oldsys
15) Rename newsys to sys
16) Down and restart Server from the NEW drive's DOS partition. At this
Point, default minimalist versions of the bindery files will be in
place with Supervisor and Guess access and no passwords.
17) Log in to the server as supervisor (no passwords required) from a
workstation and run BINDREST. This will restore the original Bindery
files (steps 8 thru 9 above created these files)
18) Verify that all files, users, groups, trustee rights, etc have been
copied properly and users can log in and work as before the change.
Having done this, you can remove move OLDSYS.
19) Down the server, exit to DOS, and power off. You can remove the
original drive, then make sure to change the SCSI ID's to make the
replacement drive the boot drive.
20) It's possible that DOS won't let you boot from the replaced drive,
if this is the case, boot from a DOS floppy, run FDISK and make sure
to set the DOS partition on the new drive to be the primary and boot
partition. Doing this should NOT affect existing files on the DOS
partition.
21) Power off and restart the system and server.
Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop
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Don Crawford
> ServerMagic will definitely do the job...but it's awfully expensive for a
> one-shot use on a small (10-user) network.
>
Yes, you are correct about that, but I don't know that PartitionMagic will do
it. Barry has given you the "Pence" solution; that will do the job for a lot
less money -- like ZIP. But it'll take you a bit of work.
Mike Jacoubowsky
"disaster" backup (using STAC's Replica). Thanks to all for the advice-
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Don Crawford" <Don.Cr...@Novell.Support.Connection> wrote in message
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Felton Green
The volume duplication is much faster BTW.
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Novell Support Connection Volunteer SysOp
Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.
Mike Jacoubowsky
test my backup system anyway, right? Besides, I believe it will restore 3
gigs in just over an hour, so life could be worse (like I could have 60 gigs
to restore!).
What's with backup these days anyway? Tape is no longer even close to
keeping up with the size of hard drives...*and* it's stopped dropping in
price as well! Is everyone backing up to alternate hard drives instead?
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Felton Green" <felton...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Felton Green
Depends on the budget and the bean counters AND the size of the volumes.
8- )
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Novell Support Connection
Don Crawford
> OK, looks like I'll do it the Old Fashioned Way and restore from a
> "disaster" backup (using STAC's Replica). Thanks to all for the advice-
>
What Felton said...
Mike Jacoubowsky
Well...
Instead of just taking care of the disk drive upgrades, I decided to get my
hands dirty and "fix" a few things. You know, those little annoyances that
don't kill your file server, but aren't the way they should be.
For example, I hadn't been able to run my 100baseT network cards for about a
year. Don't know why, but the Intel ProServer card bombed the server
(abend) as soon as you bound it to the net, and the old Linksys card simple
wouldn't talk at all (said there were no resources available, apparently in
this case, IRQs). The Linksys card failed when I installed a new dual SCSI
controller (Fireport 40/Symbios).
So I figure it's time. Get the shop closed at a reasonable hour, roll up
the sleeves, tell the wife & kids I'll be home an hour late and get that
100BaseT up-and-running!
After a bit over an hour I gave up on the Linksys. Didn't matter what slot
I put it in, she just wasn't going to work. I have a feeling it would have
if I'd removed the SCSI card, but that's not much of a solution!
So next I go reinstall the notorious Intel card. Same result...crash the
server, unmirror the hard drives (WHY didn't I remember to keep the volumes
from loading while I tested it???!!!). Next step- Intel website. New
drivers *finally* take care of the issue. No more crashing.
GREAT! Now we're getting somewhere. Now it's time to update the backup,
right? Install new updated NLMs, since what I'd been running should have
been giving me grief some time ago. Trouble is, part of the process
included "upgrading" all SCSI drivers to HAM. OK, no biggie, already
running HAM drivers on the Fireport/Symbios board, just gotta install them
on the Adaptec. No problem, right? Wrong. The Adaptec AHA2940 drivers
work just fine on the hard drives, but somehow interfere with Replica (my
backup program) seeing the tape drive. ARRRRRRRRGGGGHHH!
So I finally get home after two and a half hours, with both my kids refusing
to go to bed until Daddy sees them and does the bedtime rituals etc. Could
have been worse, like the time eight or so years ago when I did a minor
upgrade and didn't have the system back up until 4am.
Sigh. Tomorrow morning I start to replace all the batteries in the UPS
units so that next time one of my employees trips over a power cord we don't
lose all of our sales terminals.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Don Crawford" <Don.Cr...@Novell.Support.Connection> wrote in message
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Felton Green
Sounds like a typical daze for a network admin. Welcome 8- )
I've not used that program, but it seems to me that it should work.
Are there any updates to the program available?
--
Felton Green
Novell Support Connection Volunteer SysOp
Mike Jacoubowsky
Yeah, but aren't I supposed to be running a bike shop? On the other hand,
computers are often easier to deal with than customers... (or wives?)
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Felton Green" <felton...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Felton Green
Now you're getting technical <VBG>
Don Crawford
> So I finally get home after two and a half hours, with both my kids refusing
> to go to bed until Daddy sees them and does the bedtime rituals etc. Could
> have been worse, like the time eight or so years ago when I did a minor
> upgrade and didn't have the system back up until 4am.
>
Been THERE, done that! Sorry for your difficulties; I can misestimate the
task with the best of them.
Don Crawford
> Yeah, but aren't I supposed to be running a bike shop? On the other hand,
> computers are often easier to deal with than customers... (or wives?)
>
Ah, but then there're the bikes! ;-)
Mike Jacoubowsky
define the problem, solutions are simple. Even with computers many problems
can be dealt with simply by throwing enough money at them (and throwing out
enough stuff that doesn't work until you find stuff that does).
People...now that's another thing entirely. OK, here's something posted by
someone in response to a customer with an attitudinal problem at a bike
shop. Maybe you can relate to it-
=======================================
A duck walks into a bar.
"Do you have any duck food?" he asks.
"No, this is a bar," the bartender says. "We don't have duck food."
The next day the duck is back. "Do you have any duck food?" he asks.
"NO," says the bartender, a little irritated. "This is a BAR, we
don't have any duck food."
The next day the duck comes back. "So," he says, "Do you have any
duck food?"
At this point the bartender is pissed. "No, damn it, we don't have
any duck food," he says, "And furthermore if you come back in here
asking for duck food I intend to nail your feet to this bar."
The duck walks out.
Sure enough, to the great surprise of the bartender the duck comes
back the next day.
"So," says the duck, "Do you have any nails?"
"Uh, no," says the bartender.
Asks the duck, "Do you have any duck food?"
================================================
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Don Crawford" <Don.Cr...@Novell.Support.Connection> wrote in message
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Don Crawford
> Don: In all seriousness, bikes are very easy to work on. Once you can
> define the problem, solutions are simple. Even with computers many problems
> can be dealt with simply by throwing enough money at them (and throwing out
> enough stuff that doesn't work until you find stuff that does).
>
I understand. My son (Paul, for those who will ask which one!) designed and
built his own bike as an engineering project at University of Arizona. It cost
over $2500 and was eventually stolen and has not reappeared. He enlisted the
help of Colin (dang! Can't remember his last name! Well-known, British bike
designer who is now at Tempe Bicycles, I think.) Anyway, Colin helped him with
the welding and evaluated the design.
Felton Green
>> Colin
Powell?
Felton
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Don Crawford
> >> Colin
>
> Powell?
>
Found it! Laing, Colin Laing.
http://www.tempebicycle.com/
Felton Green
Now you're taking the discussion out of the political arena.
I Laing? Is that taking a nap? <G>
You can respond off line VBG>
--
Felton Green
Novell Support Connection Volunteer SysOp
Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.
"Don Crawford" <Don.Cr...@Novell.Support.Connection> wrote in message
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Mike Jacoubowsky
been around for quite awhile...maybe even building frames when I was racing,
and that was...gulp...um...are you *really* getting old when timeframes can
be expressed as a quarter century???
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Don Crawford" <Don.Cr...@Novell.Support.Connection> wrote in message
Felton Green
Yes, Don can be considered older that most. I'm not far behind though. 8- )
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Novell Support Connection
Don Crawford
> YES!!! Thank you. I was tearing my hair out on that one. Colin Laing's
> been around for quite awhile...maybe even building frames when I was racing,
> and that was...gulp...um...are you *really* getting old when timeframes can
> be expressed as a quarter century???
>
Thanks!