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Mike Frost

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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Is there a way to use NWadmin with older servers that are not part of an
NDS tree? Or am I stuck with the old utils until they can be brought
into a tree?

Thanks!

Mike


mike

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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Andrew C Taubman wrote:

> NWadmin will only with with NDS servers, not NW 3.x . If you get the 3.2
> enhancement pack there is a GUI version of SYSCON included.
> --
> Andrew C Taubman
> Novell Support Connection Volunteer SysOp
> http://support.novell.com/forums
> (Sorry, support is not provided via e-mail)
> Opinions expressed in the above text are not
> necessarily those of Novell Inc.

Is this enhancement pack downloadable from somewhere? If so, could you
point me to the url.

Thanks.

Mike


Andrew C Taubman

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Oct 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/20/00
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Barry Schnur

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Oct 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/20/00
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>Is this enhancement pack downloadable from somewhere? If so, could you
>point me to the url.
>
No -- it needs to be purchased -- list price is $350 for this -- it basically brings a
3.12 server up to fairly current patch status (that is, what 3.2 ships with). Plus it
includes a few extras like SysconW.EXE.

Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop
http://support.novell.com/forums/
Please post replies ONLY via the Newsgroup

Don Crawford

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Oct 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/20/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> No -- it needs to be purchased -- list price is $350 for this -- it basically brings a
> 3.12 server up to fairly current patch status (that is, what 3.2 ships with). Plus it
> includes a few extras like SysconW.EXE.
>

I looked on ShopNovell and CDW and can't find it any more on either site... FWIW.


-- Don Crawford
Novell Support Connection SysOp

Barry Schnur

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Oct 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/20/00
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Could be -- Novell may have formally discontinued it. If so, I suppose one could track it
down via EBAY.

Andrew C Taubman

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Oct 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/23/00
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It's still listed here: http://www.novell.com/products/netware3/pricing.html

But you only have a week to buy it :
Now that our customers are through their Y2K planning cycles and are finding
that NetWare 5.1 delivers the level of functionality and stability they
expect from Novell, we are announcing that October 31, 2000, is the last
order date for NetWare 3.x. After October 31 no orders for NetWare 3.x will
be taken and support for this product will be phased out.

Barry Schnur

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Oct 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/23/00
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Right -- and I understand the reasoning behind the change. It's just that 3.x was so well
constructed that even today, 10 years after it's introduction -- it still provides a solid
core of functionality.
Certainly it blows away what alternatives were available in the early 90's from other
sources.

Don Crawford

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Oct 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/23/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> Could be -- Novell may have formally discontinued it. If so, I suppose one could track it
> down via EBAY.
>

I thought I heard that it was being discontinued...

Don Crawford

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Oct 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/23/00
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To Andrew C Taubman:

> But you only have a week to buy it :
> Now that our customers are through their Y2K planning cycles and are finding
> that NetWare 5.1 delivers the level of functionality and stability they
> expect from Novell, we are announcing that October 31, 2000, is the last
> order date for NetWare 3.x. After October 31 no orders for NetWare 3.x will
> be taken and support for this product will be phased out.
> --
>

Thanks! That's what I thought I had heard...

Barry Schnur

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Oct 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/24/00
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> I thought I heard that it was being discontinued...

Definitely -- next week.

Don Crawford

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Oct 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/24/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> Definitely -- next week.
>

I guess 5.1 is a good choice for those who need to move. I guess there might
be some product in the channel.

Barry Schnur

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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>
> I guess 5.1 is a good choice for those who need to move. I guess there might
>be some product in the channel.
>
Right -- I think Insight still has some product available.

But for small businesses, the SBS 5.1 is an excellent product to move to.

Shaun Pond

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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Barry,
there was a head-to-head of SBS between Novell & MS in the UK PC
Magazine this month, they reckoned that MS was easier to install, but
Novell was easier to administer once it was up & running. MS won, but
to me that seems to be common in ZD mags...

Shaun Pond
Novell Support Connection SysOp


Barry Schnur

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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Yup -- Ziff believes in the GuiGod of Redmond.

Shaun Pond

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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Barry,
this being a public forum, I'll refrain from a rant <G>

Barry Schnur

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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>this being a public forum, I'll refrain from a rant <G>
>
Darn,,,,

Don Crawford

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Nov 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/7/00
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To Shaun Pond:

> <G>
>

You probably never got to meet Bart. He was from the Netherlands. He left
about the time I started! Back in the dark ages.

Shaun Pond

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Nov 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/8/00
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Don,
wasn't that when you had to put a candle inside your monitor to see
what you were typing?

Barry Schnur

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Nov 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/8/00
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Yes, it was the source of Plato's cave metaphor.

Don Crawford

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Nov 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/8/00
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To Shaun Pond:

> wasn't that when you had to put a candle inside your monitor to see
> what you were typing?
>

I thought you didn't know anything about that era! <G>

Barry Schnur

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Nov 8, 2000, 10:13:45 PM11/8/00
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> I thought you didn't know anything about that era! <G>
>
It's an epoch Don, epoch -- jeesh -- you 3x only folks.

Shaun Pond

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Nov 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/9/00
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Barry,
isn't a epoch, the time between an election and declaring a winner? <G>
OTOH, the smallest amount of time is an "instant" - an instant of time
is defined at the time between a light turning green and the guy behind
you beeping!

Don Crawford

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Nov 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/9/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> It's an epoch Don, epoch -- jeesh -- you 3x only folks.
>

I gave up on epochs when they suggested that declaring a new epoch was not
such a good idea...

Barry Schnur

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Nov 9, 2000, 8:51:47 PM11/9/00
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Sorry, I've been cautioned about using the E word.

Barry Schnur

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Nov 9, 2000, 8:51:23 PM11/9/00
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Yeah, millenialists.

Don Crawford

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Nov 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/10/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> Yeah, millenialists.
>

NDSers...

Barry Schnur

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Nov 10, 2000, 9:45:49 PM11/10/00
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> NDSers...
>

Right, thanks for the appropriate technical term.

Don Crawford

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Nov 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/14/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> Right, thanks for the appropriate technical term.
>

That would be me -- Mr. Technical.

Barry Schnur

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Nov 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/14/00
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> That would be me -- Mr. Technical.

Make that Mr. T for short.

Don Crawford

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Nov 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/15/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> Make that Mr. T for short.
>

Yeah, neither of us has any hair...

Barry Schnur

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Nov 16, 2000, 12:04:52 AM11/16/00
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Betcha you wear less gold.

Don Crawford

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Nov 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/16/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> Betcha you wear less gold.
>

You got that right!

Barry Schnur

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Nov 16, 2000, 7:45:52 PM11/16/00
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> You got that right!
>
>
But that which you wear, you wear better...

Don Crawford

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Nov 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/17/00
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To Barry Schnur:

> But that which you wear, you wear better...
>

Thank you, kind sir!

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