Personal vehicles with GPS systems - Opinions, please
Susan
you pay the extra to have one?
I'm just curious about this. ; )
Susan
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Daniel Y. Cheung
so it wouldn't be necessary. Besides, it's a biological fact that men
*never* get lost, just ask any woman who's just dumped a man. <g>
But seriously, are you planning to get one as an add-on extra for a new
car purchase or a separately purchased item? I wouldn't pay the extra if
it's an add-on, you can probably get a better one, or one with more
features, for the same cost, if you bought it separately.
Dan C.
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Susan
I'm not considering one for myself. I'm wondering why anyone would
want one in their personal vehicle, rattlesnake commercial aside. ; )
Daniel Y. Cheung
see it too, particularly if you're in a heavily forested or hilly area
where you can't see much beyond your vehicle's hood.
If you've ever driven in Northern New England, you'd see why, pretty
quickly too. "Yeh cahn't git theah from heah.", is not just a punchline
to a Down East joke around here. For someone living in Hawai'i, no
reason to get one.
Myself, I rely on my own sharply honed natural instincts to find my way.
So I don't need one. Besides, I'm pretty handy with a map, compass and
homing pigeon.
Dan C.
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Susan
And how many people drive off the road?
I'm not talking about special situations. I can think of special
situations where it makes sense.
However, I don't see that idiot rattlesnake commercial being a special
situation. I can't even see the type of people portrayed in that ad
even being anywhere near where their car could be surrounded by
rattlesnakes, and suspect, because of how idiotic the ad was in the
first place, that what the ad was really trying to convey wasn't the
danger of being in a bad rattlesnake neighborhood.
I'm talking about regular, everyday people who drive to and from work,
their kids to and from school, etc. 90% of SUV's never go off road
whatsoever, unless you consider hitting the curb sometimes to be "off
road".<G>
Daniel Y. Cheung
them to navigate to customers' locations. The people I know who drive
off the road are utilities and pipeline workers who need to be at a
specific point along the power lines or pipeline routes, which traverse
endless miles and using the odometer is impractical because of numerous
bumps and turns on the unimproved access roads.
I don't know a lot of "everyday" urban-type people with ordinary jobs
because I live out in a rural area on the edge of a forest with moose,
deer, black bears and coyotes as frequent visitors to my driveway. Most
of my neighbors (one of whom is a dead-ringer for Red Green from Possum
Lodge) are usually up before dawn and wonder what exactly I do for a
living. They think I'm kidding when I tell them I work with networks.
Somehow, they assume that IT is mutually exclusive with being able to
hit a bullseye from 300 meters with a deer rifle.
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
>
> Daniel:
>
> And how many people drive off the road?
>
> I'm not talking about special situations. I can think of special
> situations where it makes sense...
Susan
>who travel to strange cities for business
> The people I know who drive off the road are utilities and pipeline
>workers
Not personal vehicles, then. If the vehicle is used in business, it's
not a personal vehicle.
I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to find out why
anyone with an ordinary person-use-only on-road vehicle would want one.
It puzzles me. ; )
Timothy A. Leerhoff
my laptop that would give verbal directions while I was driving. Of course
the majority of this usage would be for business and not personal.
I prefer to use a map and a compass that is in my Jeep. I have made it to
all of my clients on time using that method. I feel it would be like a
calculator, I can no longer do large mathematical problems in my head due
to lack of practice. I am afraid of what would happen if that was the case
with GPS systems.
One of the highest incidence of GPS's being installed in cars is Tokyo.
nearly 100% of the vehicles use them to navigate. This was the unfortunate
case when the GPS Y2K rollover happened last August (21st to 22nd). A lot
of the older systems could not handle the rollover to epoch 2. Hence the
people could not find their way.
T
Susan wrote:
> How do you all feel about GPS systems in your personal vehicles? Would
> you pay the extra to have one?
>
> I'm just curious about this. ; )
Terry Rodecker
> quickly too. "Yeh cahn't git theah from heah.", is not just a punchline
> to a Down East joke around here. For someone living in Hawai'i, no
> reason to get one.
When I went to Lake Placid (whilst in the Air Force at Plattsburgh) I sure
wished I had a GPS device. The highways into there were literally dirt
roads. Having just seen what SLC is doing to get ready for the 2002
Olympics, I can't believe they were ever held in Lake Placid. <G>
Terry Rodecker
> anyone with an ordinary person-use-only on-road vehicle would want one.
> It puzzles me. ; )
Perhaps to use when the main north/south Hawaiin highway is knocked out and
a bottle of alcohol being poured on the sand hasn't brought it back yet?
<G>
Susan
Get out at atlas and look at Oahu. It's more or less a circle, with a
road around the edge of it. If you need a GPS to find your way around
here, we don't need your genes in the pool. ; )
Susan
> I am afraid of what would happen if that was the case
> with GPS systems.
This is my concern, also. I can just see future generations unable to
find their way home because the satellite got knocked out by a passing
meteor shower.
Of course, by then Bill will have built his "internet in the sky",
ringing the earth with so many satellites that you wouldn't be able to
sneeze without MS immediately emailing you a gesundheit. ; )
Susan
> evoulution - scary!
Is there such a thing as devolution? If so, I think I've seen examples
of it in my own neighborhood. ; )
David Seymour
I would not pay extra or indeed anything.
After GPS, comes automatic pilot type thingie, then erm, something else,
and us humans will need no brain power to do anything, we will lose our
arms, legs and just become a big blob.
evoulution - scary!
Six!
David.
Susan wrote:
> How do you all feel about GPS systems in your personal vehicles? Would
> you pay the extra to have one?
>
> I'm just curious about this. ; )
Hamish
> David:
>
> > evoulution - scary!
>
> Is there such a thing as devolution? If so, I think I've seen examples
> of it in my own neighborhood. ; )
And some kiwi lads in Aussie if I recall ...........................
H.
David Seymour
Trust me, it is not restricted to your neighborhood!
Five!
Susan wrote:
> David:
>
> > evoulution - scary!
>
> Is there such a thing as devolution? If so, I think I've seen examples
> of it in my own neighborhood. ; )
>
Simon Bolingbroke
> How do you all feel about GPS systems in your personal vehicles? Would
> you pay the extra to have one?
Around here??? Hmmm.....
We have rather a useful little organisation called the Ordnance Survey who
produce very nice little pieces of paper (about 4'x4') called maps at a
scale of 1:50,000 covering the whole country and available most places for
around a couple of pints of beer.....
A compass isn't actually needed around here, despite our lack of sun shine;
because our land features enable you Orientate the the Map by observation.
Also, being a tiny little pink bit on the World Atlas, we have one climate
with a Westerly prevailing wind which can be noted from the Flora around us.
Actually, I don't think we do have a climate as such ~ just "Whether"...
"Whether it is raining; or whether it is not!" :-)))))
As to buying a GPS???
You mean one for "each" of my Fleet???
Ouch! ~ Expensive.....
On the other hand....
If I was doing the Camel Rally; or the London to Dakar.... &c...
Definitely.
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S.
Beth Cole
> Daniel:
>
> >who travel to strange cities for business
> > The people I know who drive off the road are utilities and pipeline
> >workers
>
> Not personal vehicles, then. If the vehicle is used in business, it's
> not a personal vehicle.
>
> I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to find out why
> anyone with an ordinary person-use-only on-road vehicle would want one.
> It puzzles me. ; )
>
I have a GPS unit which attaches to my laptop and we use it when we go
camping, running off the cigarrette lighter adapter, because I don't trust
the directions I get from most convention & visitors bureaus for getting to
lesser known campgrounds. It has also been useful in explaining distances
to a friend who lives in Chicago who can't it it through his head that I
don't live in downtown Kansas City, but rather in a small town 2 hours &
100+ miles away from Kansas City.
And I wouldn't pay extra for one on a car...
Beth
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splinters never point the wrong way."
Lisa Reeves
"Susan" <NSCV.Sys...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> How do you all feel about GPS systems in your personal vehicles? Would
> you pay the extra to have one?
>
Nope. Yecch.
<paranoia mode ON> If I can find them, they can find me. <paranoia mode OFF>
<gryn>
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Lisa Reeves
> Terry:
>
> Get out at atlas and look at Oahu. It's more or less a circle, with a
> road around the edge of it. If you need a GPS to find your way around
> here, we don't need your genes in the pool. ; )
Amazing what a good splash of bleach would do for the pool.....
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Timothy A. Leerhoff
> ringing the earth with so many satellites that you wouldn't be able to
> sneeze without MS immediately emailing you a gesundheit. ; )
LOL
He already has the sat pics on a server (teraserver). Your prediction is
a little to close to where he want to go. Scary!
T
Timothy A. Leerhoff
long period of time? Did it evolve into a Mercedes or devolve into a pile
of rust?
T
Terry Rodecker
> road around the edge of it. If you need a GPS to find your way around
> here, we don't need your genes in the pool. ; )
I've made my contribution, thankyouverymuch! <G>
Lindsey Johnstone
Lindsey
Susan
Yes.<G>
Susan
For wilderness work of any kind, it would make sense. But your mention
of campgrounds made me wonder if MapQuest does driving directions to
camp grounds. That would be a neat addition to their features, if they
don't. Off to check, and submit an enhancement request if they don't.
; )
Susan
Especially scary because:
a) the gesundheit won't be the correct version of gesundheit for
your system and will crash it,
b) the gesundheit will conflict with your MSOffice Monolith
edition, and wipe out not only your local files but every file ever
created by you that you've managed to squirrel away in various
subdirectories across the internet trying to protect it from MS bugs,
and
c) you'll be billed for the gesundheit, regardless that you didn't
want the gesundheit package in the first place, because it is an
integral part of Windows Earth version for running the planet. ; )
Susan
> And some kiwi lads in Aussie if I recall
Well, cute and persistent as they were, the guy that still takes the
prize was the one in Cairns who jumped out of his third-floor hotel
room into the pool in order to get my attention, as I sat poolside
reading. ; )
Susan
> Trust me, it is not restricted to your neighborhood!
You don't suppose there's an epidemic of it going around, do you? ; )
Susan
Yes, but cars cannot beget other cars, so their only option is to
devolve. ; )
Susan
> If I was doing the Camel Rally; or the London to Dakar.... &c...
Yes, yes, special circumstances. Of course they make sense in special
circumstances. Those maps sound quite nice.
Appropos of nothing, I recently saw a travel episode about Cotswold and
I want to go there now. Maybe I'll just chuck it all and go on a trek
again. Now where did I put my IYH pass? ; )
Susan
Well, yes, they can find you if you have one of those things. That's
was one of the points of the rattlesnake commercial - that they can
find you and rescue you from the stupid places and circumstances in
which you get yourself caught.
You're not paranoid when they *are* following you. ; )
Lindsey Johnstone
Lindsey
Ben A L Jemmett
the closest I can get to it without thinking hard, but devolution is what
Similin' Tony does with anybody who asks nicely enough...
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one, and while it works I'm not convinced of its usefulness...
Ben A L Jemmett
drinking coffee and yelling abuse at anyone who walks by, until they end up
scraping my festering corpse out of the chair...
Susan
> You gotta push the button, you know. <g>
>
Well, yes, that's how it works now, but just wait. There will be some
idiot who gets himself surrounded by rattlesnakes and just sits there,
thinking that hew doesn't need to push any buttons to get help, and
expires sitting there, waiting and waiting and next thing you know the
default button position is "on" instead of "off" to "idiot proof" the
life-saving features, though why anyone would want to save the life of
an idiot is beyond me. ; )
Susan
> Well, technically, neither can I,
Do you really *want* to beget a car, Ben? Really? ; )
Lisa Reeves
> was one of the points of the rattlesnake commercial - that they can
> find you and rescue you from the stupid places and circumstances in
> which you get yourself caught.
See, I'd rather not be rescued, than have them following me around all the
time.
> You're not paranoid when they *are* following you. ; )
Ah. So they're NOT figments of my imagination? <gryn>
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Lisa Reeves
> Ben:
>
> > Well, technically, neither can I,
>
> Do you really *want* to beget a car, Ben? Really? ; )
Begetting would be MUCH easier than the delivery......
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Lisa Reeves
> idiot who gets himself surrounded by rattlesnakes and just sits there,
> thinking that hew doesn't need to push any buttons to get help, and
> expires sitting there, waiting and waiting and next thing you know the
> default button position is "on" instead of "off" to "idiot proof" the
> life-saving features, though why anyone would want to save the life of
> an idiot is beyond me. ; )
THIS is why the gene pool needs bleach!!
We keep saving the dumb ones.
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David Seymour
something like an, erm, er, yes. hmm.
David
David Seymour
David
Two!
Ben A L Jemmett wrote:
> > Is there such a thing as devolution?
> ARGH! NONONO! Devolution is not the opposite of evolution. Regression is
> the closest I can get to it without thinking hard, but devolution is what
> Similin' Tony does with anybody who asks nicely enough...
>
David Seymour
for later!
David
One!
Susan
> THIS is why the gene pool needs bleach!!
I'm off to invest in Clorox... ; )
Susan
True, true.<G>
Susan
No, it wasn't over there at all. It was in with my Australia and New
Zealand photos. I see it's now expired, so I'll have to get a new one.
Sigh. ; )
Lynnette Loomis
Nonononono! It was Similin' Tony! <G>
LLL
David Seymour
It hasn't expired, it has merely matured past its useful time!
<g>
David
David Seymour
I knew a Tony who smiled all the time you see. Nice fella, but just
couldn't stop smiling.
David
Lynnette Loomis
Nah, you can go back to sleep. You've posted enough to take the stats, and
Ben's posted enough to take 1st away from me. <G>
> I knew a Tony who smiled all the time you see. Nice fella, but just
> couldn't stop smiling.
Don't you just hate it when that happens. No one should be that cheerful!
;-))
LLL
Andy Betts
you <g>
AB
David Seymour
Sleep for me it is!
I am always cheerful, happy, but thats because someone has to be!
Lindsey Johnstone
Lindsey
Lynnette Loomis
You're welcome! <G>
> Sleep for me it is!
Only if you want too... ;-)
> I am always cheerful, happy, but thats because someone has to be!
Just don't be cheerful around me until I've had coffee. <G>
LLL
Simon Bolingbroke
Well, I know we don't quite have the vast scenery of the Americas or the
Antipodes, but we are considered quite "quaint" in a a heritage sort of way.
....and we have the added benefit of Ben, Marcus, Martin, and an awful lot
of other nice people too; just avoid that troublemaker Shaun though!
.....but, of course! You have already met him; so you will know to avoid him
if you make it over here! ;-)
I know that East Anglia doesn't quite have the attraction of the Cotwolds,
or Ben's Derbyshire Peak District, or Martin's equally spectacular
countryside....
East Anglia is sort of......... Ummmmmm....... Flat!
....but we do have Constable Country and the Norfolk Broads (not women! you
heathen onlookers!)
....and some jolly good beer! :-))))))))
Come and give us a look one day! ~ I am sure we can arrange for you to get
some stunning ideas for ncc discipline and torture methods at the Tower of
London dungeons, or Madame Tussauds......
:-)))))))
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Susan <NSCV.Sys...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> Simon:
>
> > If I was doing the Camel Rally; or the London to Dakar.... &c...
>
> Yes, yes, special circumstances. Of course they make sense in special
> circumstances. Those maps sound quite nice.
>
> Appropos of nothing, I recently saw a travel episode about Cotswold and
> I want to go there now. Maybe I'll just chuck it all and go on a trek
> again. Now where did I put my IYH pass? ; )
Simon Bolingbroke
Fuming Sulphuric Acid springs to mind.......
....less evidence for forensic! ):-))))
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S.
Susan <NSCV.Sys...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> Lisa:
>
> > THIS is why the gene pool needs bleach!!
>
> I'm off to invest in Clorox... ; )
Susan
No. I've never been *that* desperate. ; )
Susan
> It hasn't expired, it has merely matured past its useful time!
It and me both. ; )
Susan
> So when you putting them on the Web?
Probably never. Worst lot of photos I've ever taken. My heart just
wasn't into photo taking on that trip. It was more of a journey than a
photo-op session.
Besides, you already know what New Zealand looks like, don't you? ; )
Susan
I'm going to have to get my maps out and do some figuring. Maybe I can
just hike around England for awhile, if people are kind enough to point
me away from the areas where people get murdered.
What's the exchange rate now? Oh, nevermind. I'll go look myself. ; )
Daniel Y. Cheung
gave me one, no strings attached, I'd take it. Although I wouldn't know
what to do with it, since I like figuring out my location the the old
fashioned way; bluff. <g>
You were arguing? I thought you were doing the Socratic Dialog thing,
like in "The Paperchase". I have "discussions" like this with the
professor sitting next to me, all the time. <bg>
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
>
> Daniel:
>
> >who travel to strange cities for business
> > The people I know who drive off the road are utilities and pipeline
> >workers
>
> Not personal vehicles, then. If the vehicle is used in business, it's
> not a personal vehicle.
>
> I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to find out why
> anyone with an ordinary person-use-only on-road vehicle would want one.
> It puzzles me. ; )
>
> Susan
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Daniel Y. Cheung
Susan wrote:
>
> ...If you need a GPS to find your way around
> here, we don't need your genes in the pool. ; )...
Daniel Y. Cheung
during winter, he told me that he had to cancel an ice skating party,
because it was -30F with 30 know winds. He said that he doesn't like to
skate outdoors when the winds get over 20 knots. <g>
Dan C.
Terry Rodecker wrote:
>
>...When I went to Lake Placid (whilst in the Air Force at Plattsburgh) I sure
> wished I had a GPS device....
Daniel Y. Cheung
should see the navigation test that Tokyo cab drivers have to take as
part of the hack license application. <g>
Dan C.
"Timothy A. Leerhoff" wrote:
>
>...One of the highest incidence of GPS's being installed in cars is Tokyo.
> nearly 100% of the vehicles use them to navigate...
Daniel Y. Cheung
Dan C.
David Seymour wrote:
>
...will need no brain power to do anything, we will lose our
> arms, legs and just become a big blob...
Donald Albury
> > Is there such a thing as devolution?
> ARGH! NONONO! Devolution is not the opposite of evolution. Regression is
> the closest I can get to it without thinking hard, but devolution is what
> Similin' Tony does with anybody who asks nicely enough...
devolution n. ... 3. regression of an organism to a lower or less complex form;
retrograde evolution;degeneration.
D.
Daniel Y. Cheung
driving SUV's while yakking on the cell phone, eating breakfast and
looking at the GPS display, instead of paying attention to the
traffic.<g>
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
... Is there such a thing as devolution? If so, I think I've seen
examples
> of it in my own neighborhood. ; )...
Lindsey Johnstone
Lindsey
Daniel Y. Cheung
partner and I got into the deep fried rattler nuggets, hatband and belt
business. At least until the game warden came by. Amazing how chicken
tastes like rattlesnake. <g>
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
>
>...There will be some
> idiot who gets himself surrounded by rattlesnakes and just sits there...
Donald Albury
> I know exactly where I am at all times, *especially* when I'm driving,
> so it wouldn't be necessary. Besides, it's a biological fact that men
> *never* get lost, just ask any woman who's just dumped a man. <g>
My sentiments!
D.
Lindsey Johnstone
......
Lindsey
Susan
> You were arguing?
No, I wasn't arguing. Sheesh. Pay attention. I said "I'm not trying
to argue". <G>
Susan
> regression
I thought regression was that thing they did to you when you were
hypnotized, not that I've ever been hypnotized, bawk bawk bawk. ; )
Susan
> Unless it's a tilapia pond.
>
True, true.<G>
Susan
> The last time I wandered into a rattlesnake colony,
So you didn't need the GPS folks to rescue you?
Chicken might taste like rattlesnake, but it sure doesn't look like it.
; )
Susan
So how did the first day go? And why are they sending you out to stand
in the middle of rattlesnakes already? ; )
Lindsey Johnstone
want to be accused of tooting my horn. Simply said, Awesome! I like my
office, my computer (wow!), the people, my boss, my big boss and the
cookies. Fun stuff. (And I have the time to post too!)
Lindsey
Toot Toot
Lindsey Johnstone
the Yakima area in our RV. Trading in the "City politics snakes" for the
rattlers that inhabit Eastern Washington.
Lindsey
Daniel Y. Cheung
Dan C.
Lindsey Johnstone wrote:
>
> His name wouldn't be Harvey, perchance?
>
> Lindsey
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companies are having those types installed in trucks to make sure the
drivers aren't goofin off.
>[Sheesh] You gotta push the button, you know. <g>
>
>Lindsey
_______________________________________________
Where are we going,
and why are we in this handbasket?
Daniel Y. Cheung
<g>
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
>
> Daniel:
>
> > You were arguing?
>
> No, I wasn't arguing. Sheesh. Pay attention. I said "I'm not trying
> to argue". <G>
>
> Susan
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desperate for a date, into taking her out on the town. Too bad she
couldn't hypnotize some money to appear, because I was broke, so she
paid for dinner, drinks and the cab to take me home. <g>
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
>
> Daniel:
>
> > regression
>
> I thought regression was that thing they did to you when you were
> hypnotized, not that I've ever been hypnotized, bawk bawk bawk. ; )
>
Daniel Y. Cheung
was riding in, somewhere along Umtannum <sp?> Ridge.
Dan C.
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(that is ONE high-performance "All-Terrain Recreational Vehicle", BTW),
we knew exactly where we were, just using map and compass. The snakes
needed rescuing from *Us*. <g>
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
>
> Daniel:
>
> > The last time I wandered into a rattlesnake colony,
>
> So you didn't need the GPS folks to rescue you?
>
> Chicken might taste like rattlesnake, but it sure doesn't look like it.
> ; )
>
> Susan
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Susan
> That was a trying argument?
>
No. In order for there to be a trying argument there would have to be
an argument (noun) in the first place, to which to apply the "trying"
adjective, now wouldn't there. So, pay really, really close attention
to this next part:
THERE WAS NO ARGUMENT! ; )
Susan
Once again, I wasn't *that* desperate. ; )
Susan
Did you sue her for all she was worth? ; )
Susan
> Yes, but interested in what and how you saw NZ :-)
Why? Am I the only foreign-born person who's ever been there? ; )
Susan
Oh, this is wonderful news! Cookies? What flavor? If chocolate chip,
did you save me some?<G>
Susan
> The snakes needed rescuing from *Us*.
>
That is, indeed, good news, I think. ; )
Susan
You tell him, Tim! ; )
Daniel Y. Cheung
who is omniscient and has the power of [THWACK]!?!? I've seen the
results of that kind of foolishness, not pretty. Discussions of points
of fact or supposition, even splitting hairs thinner than a 65micron
single-mode optic fiber, now that's another story.....
<BG>
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
>
> Daniel:
>
> > That was a trying argument?
> >
> No. In order for there to be a trying argument there would have to be
> an argument (noun) in the first place, to which to apply the "trying"
> adjective, now wouldn't there. So, pay really, really close attention
> to this next part:
>
> THERE WAS NO ARGUMENT! ; )
--
Daniel Y. Cheung
deposition, you know, kind of like having a really weird dream, then
waking up. You remember having the weird dream, but can't recall what it
was all about.
I later found out that her father was a judge, known for throwing the
book at you for minor transgressions of the law. She was good looking,
weird and desparate, not stupid. I think she scared most guys whom she
met. Most men seemed to shy away from good looking, smart women,
especially the weird ones. I was too unaware to be scared, but was
always willing to go along if it meant a free meal. ;-)
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
>
> Daniel:
>
> Did you sue her for all she was worth? ; )
Daniel Y. Cheung
slapped me for being so foolish.<g>
Dan C.
Susan wrote:
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> Daniel:
>
> > The snakes needed rescuing from *Us*.
> >
> That is, indeed, good news, I think. ; )
Susan
Okay. That's better. <G>
Susan
> but was always willing to go along if it meant a free meal.
Well, you know what they say about being hypnotized. You cannot be,
unless you're willing to be.<G>
Regardless, that woman's license should be yanked.
Susan
And have you found yourself amidst rattlesnakes since your wife slapped
you? ; )
Terry Rodecker
Well, the contributions were made regardless of the outcomes. <G>
Terry Rodecker
> skate outdoors when the winds get over 20 knots. <g>
Now, add to that two squadrons of FB-111s (nuclear capable) parked on an
open tarmac, 100 miles north of Lake Placid, and some poor soul (me) having
to stand out there looking like an idiot, waiting for the Security Police to
come and secure the fence I just brought down because the perimeter alert
system wasn't working. I was there for 4 hours waiting for them but, I
couldn't leave the fence unguarded lest the evil empire (Canadian spies)
should send someone across to photograph the 22 year old planes. <G>
Oh, did I forget to mention this was January, the temp was a recorded -42 F
and the winds were blowing at around 30 knots? For the first and only
time, I really used the scratchy wool blanket that the Air Force gave me
when I got back to the barracks. <G>