What Is Earth's Worst Problem?
amzolt
I thought I should start with a rather general topic: What do you
think Earth's worst Global problem is?
I certainly have my own ideas about that question (my Worlds, all nine
of them, have been through all the crises you have and a few that were
much worse) but I want to begin by hearing your ideas...
This seems the best way for me to begin my most important task: making
my stories and book of the greatest help possible to Earth and her
inhabitants.
So, jump right in and voice your opinion!
Denise S.
What do I think the Earth's worst problem is WAR.
But isn't that what Earthlings do best?
We haven't come to the understanding that we can have the same things
that the other person has if we just work hard for it. Also that we
all believe in god even though we have given him many different names.
So war is the Earths worst problem.
The killing of another human begin because of religon, fear, or greed.
amzolt
Congratulations on being the first contributor! You're also the first
that I'll list in the stories and book as a "Helper"!!
War...
My, my, how we used to love war here in Angi--not counting all the
wars that preceded it (oh, maybe a few thousand), the Inter-World War
lasted a little over 500 years!
I should explain that Angi has nine Worlds:
The first two were naturally populated as all Worlds are but each one--
Anga and Anla--had people who were very different but also very
complementary. Such a shame it took so long for the two populations to
see their complementarity...
The third World, Angla, was settled by the remnant populations of Anga
and Anla after the 500-year-long Inter-World War.
The remaining six Worlds have been created by the work of specialists
from Anga, Anla, and Angla. These six Worlds have never seen a day of
war in their 600-year history.
War is to be abhorred wherever it occurs; even if one of the
participants is fighting what's called a "just" war. There are such
things, when one nation or group unjustly begins a war and another
nation or group goes to war to end the fighting. Even though the
"just" combatants are to be lauded for ending the pain and suffering
of war, it is still to be lamented that the fighting had to happen.
As time goes on in these discussions, I'll certainly be talking more
about the causes of war and giving you some of Angi's wisdom about how
to bring an end to social forces that are the cause of war.
Stay tuned, Denise!!!
Lisa
The worst of all the global crises has to be the extremely limited
natural resources. At the very basest of human instinct, is the desire
to breed - to multiply, left unchecked there will be so many humans on
this planet that the 'blocked wish' of food and heat will result in an
inevitable, massive scale conflict and war.
Another quote I find useful in this place is as follows "Human beings
are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you multiply until every
conceivable natural resource is consumed, then you 'spread' to another
area."
Lisa
I feel I'll put my two pennies worth here (from UK - no cents ;) )
I'll reflect as far as I can on my understanding of conflict, I
hesitate to use the word 'war' because it has so much weight attached
to it - and after all, what is 'war' except for an escalated and
unresolved conflict between peoples. Exacerbated by narrow minded
governments and limited scope views.
In essence, I feel conflict is caused by human arrogance, greed and
hatred. Very raw, very powerful and negative elements. So this, I
feel, is where I feel humanities worst failings occur. For all of the
negatives however, there are equal positives like human Compassion,
Love and Empathy. All of which can produce wholesome and pure results
as well as the horror and conflict which can be seen when either of
the positive and negative elements mix.
A veritable soup of possibilities, both pleasant and nasty. One quote
I find very useful, "Anger, is a blocked wish."
this quote, to me, resembles a definition of conflict. It can also be
defined where one party feels betrayed by the other resulting in
resentment and bitterness, which leads me to an interesting conclusion
to this thought - Human Emotion.
amzolt
I take your comments about population to heart.
We had such a problem with it that we settled a new World then went on
to create six more!
Rather than the natural resources being limited, it appears the human
resource is overabundant, eh?
We will talk much more about this issue.........
amzolt
As our second "Helper", you certainly make yourself known when you
appear ;-)
"...after all, what is 'war' except for an escalated and unresolved
conflict..."
Extremely apt comment!!!
"In essence, I feel conflict is caused by human arrogance, greed and
hatred."
Oh, yes; whether Earthling or Angian, these are powerfully negative--
looking forward to saying more about how we from Angi got over the
worst manifestations of those--beat our collective heads against the
wall till we fell far down is a hint...
"Human Emotion."
Ah, this is good! Feelings and their place in a rational universe--
must make a special note of that...........
Tzunamii
In my humble opinion, one of the roots of all these problems is
selfishness (or, lack of selflessness, if this perspective pleases
you.)
Without selflessness, there is little reason to lift up one another
without benefit to self (whether perceived, or not).
Feelings have naught to do with the matter as sentient beings, we can
objectively judge and act irrespective of our feelings, if We desire.
But this is a desire of selflessness, and a discipline the selfish can
not attain.
amzolt
Welcome...
I take your post with great seriousness...
You, as Alex would say, have hit the nail on the head...
I deeply appreciate your mentioning the part that feelings play (or,
don't play) in the process of working toward selflessness...
We of Angi had a particular problem with this; mostly due to the
interaction of mind and heart that exist *between* our Worlds...
You'll find more about this in other threads here but, for now, I want
to let you know that we Angians had to work much harder at keeping our
feelings under control as we learned selflessness then earthlings--
even when an individual had achieved a measure of selflessness, the
"plasma"-link would let another's selfishness intrude, making the
discipline slip...
Much more on this later, Tzunamii...
Once more, a heart-felt Welcome!!!
Linny t
Maybe that's why so many replies focus on human traits. Funny,
though, humans may also be the Earth's best Global solution...IF they
can all ever cooperate and agree on anything.
As for the human factor, I agree with the posts on selfishness. It
really gets to the root of the other problems. Money is usually at
the root of it, too. It is afterall the root of every kind of evil.
On Jan 5, 3:01 pm, amzolt <amz...@gmail.com> wrote:
amzolt
Welcome to the discussion!!
I like the way you pose humans as the problem *and* the solution--we
of Angi spent many years (hundreds...) discovering and debating this
point (the point that we Angians were the problem and solution on our
Worlds...).
Selfishness and Selflessness is quite the discussion, too...
Anga was mostly selfish and Anla mostly selfless...
There is a selflessness that is wrong, given that the Creator gave
sentient beings a self-aware mind...
As always, in discussions of psychology that include spirituality, we
find the *apparent* opposites apparently being irreconcilable...
This balancing of innate qualities with qualities that must be learned
may just be the propulsive force behind the evolution of
consciousness...
Children are selfish and must learn a measure of selflessness. Yet,
adults who are totally selfless become morose and depressed...
Certainly, my comments here are fragmentary and will need fleshing out
as time goes on...
The fact that we of Angi had two Worlds that were "opposites" yet, in
truth, "complements"; and, the fact that these Worlds fought a 500-
year war; and, the further fact that the remnants of both Worlds sent
settlers to a third World; all these facts complicate my relating the
Angian story to earthlings...
Still, there are many amazing similarities between our Worlds--*these*
are what I'm learning in our discussions!!!
electrobleme
inaction. every day not making a stand or not bothering to do the tiny
things we can do to make a difference to the greater good of others
and all.
every day we do have the gift of life, to choose to change the world
with each tiny positive decision. do i practise what i preach? lol no
but then again i am only human.
"My story stops here, lets be clear
This scenario is happening everywhere
And you ain't going to nirvana or farvana
You're coming right back here to live out your karma
With even more drama than previously, seriously
Just how many centuries have we been
waiting for someone else to make us free
And we refuse to see
That people overseas suffer just like we
Bad leadership and ego's unfettered and free
Who feed one the people they're supposed to lead
I don't need good people to pray and wait
For the lord to make it all straight
There's only now, do it right.
Cos I don't want your daddy, leaving home tonight
...We need to find courage, overcome
Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction"
(Mass Destruction by faithless)
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I
was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not
a Jew;
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me."
amzolt
"Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction"
Superb statement...
I remember in our history when the 500-year-long InterWorld War was
raging, there were many ways to control the spaceflights that
prolonged the war without stopping commerce between the Worlds. Yet,
both sides tried to stop spaceflight--essentially cutting all ties
with the other World...
Anga thought Anla was too ignorant to copy Anga's space technology.
Anla thought Anga would cave in if enough spaceships were destroyed or
converted to Anla's control...
Both sides were blind to the other World's intentions and
capabilities--blindness caused by the inability to take action in the
realm of rational imagination--they acted on blind prejudice and not
on informed decision...
So, "inaction" to me can not only mean doing nothing at all but also
doing a lot of what shouldn't be done and none of what should.
Lin Taylor
Notice, though, that loving God comes first and for that, belief in God is a prerequisite.
amzolt
social and individual "redemption"--possibly, I could say "paying it
forward" in order to pay it back--honoring the Reason we are here...
In my discussions with Alex, the most challenging area is religion and
spirituality. Not because we disagree but because we're trying to find
a common language to discuss our, apparently, different experiences--
yet, the more we talk and discover, the less difference there appears
to be.........
My story of the Worlds of Angi will have a portrayal of our two
naturally inhabited planets--Anga and Anla--one nearly completely
materialistic, one nearly completely religious; yet, both
fundamentalistic--unwilling to see the other's perspective and, much
more importantly, unwilling to see how understanding the "other side"
can make one's own beliefs stronger--in short, awareness that
materialism without spirituality is deaf and spirituality without
materialism is dumb...
amzolt
relatively new members who haven't added their comments yet...
The question of this thread is absolutely the most important one for
me to ask everyone who joins the group...
Many questions I can ask can help me understand the people of earth
better and, as a consequence, help me write my story...
But, "What Is Earth's Worst Problem?", can give me the best insights
for my planning...
Like I've mentioned elsewhere, Angi has had all the global crises
you're suffering plus a few more; yet, since we happen to be further
along the curve of global development, we've been forced to go to the
depths and discover the highest solutions--leading us to massive
healing.........