Re: Windows Style Builder - WSB - 1.5.4.6 BETA Setup Free
Laverne Levenstein
What I want to accomplish is to cut the "I" into three pieces by using the new shape builder and putting the letter "D" on top, so that I can cut with the half-elipse of the "D" through the "I". By the end I should have one top and one bottom piece and also one middle piece as seperate objects.
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I'm now into more than a dozen design files having used the shape builder and it fails half the time. It especially fails to combine and subtract shapes when I drag over them, regardless of how fast or slow I drag the mouse. I really hope that the developers are addressing these bugs because they make it impossible to use the software in a professional workflow.
After watching my vid, it occurred to me to try changing the stroked shapes to solid colors, after which I was able to combine the shapes. Illustrator has no problem combining stroked shapes. I don't know if Serif is doing this by design or if it's a bug. Here is a video of Illustrator handling this design with strokes:
I also find the gradient tool in Affinity to be less refined. Fwiw, none of this is meant to disparage the software. I actually support Serif's efforts to bring an alternative to Adobe and hope that these refinements are important to the developers. Adobe has taken the path of market cap through general consumers at the expense of its professional users who have depended on its software. I would happily pay more for Affinity if there were a concerted effort to bring the product up to commercial specs.
I converted my grid-line strokes to curves and the shape builder didn't crash. The problem here is that converting my grid lines to curves created tiny composited star shapes on which I had to zoom way in to combine. That process is not only tedious and time-consuming but also easy to miss these tiny shapes. See attachments. I really want app this to work, especially now that I've ended my Adobe subscription, although I'm surprised that the shape builder function for Designer actually graduated from the beta stage.
The fact that you are getting little stars suggests to me that your lines were not perfectly aligned to start with. Those tiny overlaps always existed, and were probably what is tripping up the Shape Builder.
For what it is worth, I tried out both examples, and with minimal fiddling was able to get both to work. Also I find the Illustrator example to be very inefficient, and would suggest only making of the knot, then using Symbols to fill in the other automatically.
The stars come from the lines being shapes instead of strokes. The same issue occurs with square grids. The software problem is that the shape builder doesn't play well with strokes, which is why I showed the difference with shapes.
Thanks for the response, Dan. Fwiw, it's not lost on me that Adobe has much deeper pockets for R&D (approximately $20b vs $30m in revenues), which makes Serif's product development respectable at this point. Props for that. Regarding the stroke issue, it only came up when making custom grids from which to create shapes with the Shapebuilder as well as when attempting to rotate strokes around a "transform-origin" point. I've discovered workable hacks for both, which I'm happy to share if desired.
Hello Gurus, I have a question about the shape build and see others are having some issues too. I'm just play around with it trying to get the idea of what works and doesn't so this could definitely be a me problem and not a AD problem. I was following a YouTube demonstration for a ying and yang which I thought worked but when I started filling the shapes I find that both little circle end up together instead of where they are supposed to be.
I used the donut and ellipse tools as shown in the copy. You can see that the black circle is under the white one in the layer's panel instead of filling the empty space on the white yang? shape. I tried it several times and depending on which shape I add to first is where the circle disappears. If I start on the left, the circles are on the bottom, start on the right, they're on the top. So they're sticking to the last shaped added to. Any thoughts?
Click shape builder while all is selected, click the +/ add button and draw through the outer donut and the left side of large circle. (Sometimes the piece stays empty as in Capture 1a, Sometimes it goes grey as in Capture 1b) Now a double small circle appears on the first shape created. Plus as you see in 1a the second shape lost the small circle and left the outer part not joined to the large circle. In 1b the first shape changed to grey, gained a circle and the other side stayed clear without a fillable circle - just the hole.
Now on something simple like this I can clean it up but on a more complicate design I can see a headache arising. Are the shapes and lines suppose to have strokes and fills?, I don't remember reading that they needed to be plus most of the tutorials I've watched aren't filling the shapes until they finish the design.
This is very similar to a project of mine I started long ago yet never worked further on. Builders use phases defined in hooks and phases can define a relative order so the eventual build becomes the topological sort of the phases. Instead of Ruby the builder uses Python. I decided to wait to see what happens with Nickel before putting in more effort.
Agreed but I can get someone to install a binary and execute one command easier than I can get them to install WSL, create a new linux user, pick a wsl shell, understand where in the heck they are in the filesystem, and then install nix and learn a whole other mental model.
If nix worked on windows this would not be a problem, and package creators could focus completely on specifying dependencies with nix. This would dramatically simplify building packages with nix in the long run and would also benefit Linux and Mac.
I had seen only one mention so far (in this thread i think) that since you could execute windows binaries from within wsl2, that there could perhaps be a way to make nix do windows configuration that way ?
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