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zabeeh khan

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Apr 14, 2008, 10:16:48 AM4/14/08
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Brother can't you add a task pane (I don't know what is it called in Python) to the right of the Noorgtk window with a few examplary buttons?

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Ali Gholami Rudi

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Apr 14, 2008, 1:03:47 PM4/14/08
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Assalamoalaikum:

On Apr 14 2008 18:46 +0430, zabeeh khan wrote:
> Brother can't you add a task pane (I don't know what is it called in Python) to
> the right of the Noorgtk window with a few examplary buttons?

What is a task pane and what does it usually contain?

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Ali

zabeeh khan

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Apr 14, 2008, 10:04:02 PM4/14/08
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have you used Zekr?? the thing at the right is called task pane which contains next aya...etc. in Zekr.
 
It maybe the same as toolbar in Python, I Think.
 
So please add a toolbar to the right of the window........

Ali Gholami Rudi

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Apr 15, 2008, 7:47:46 AM4/15/08
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On Apr 15 2008 06:34 +0430, zabeeh khan wrote:
> have you used Zekr?? the thing at the right is called task pane which contains
> next aya...etc. in Zekr.

It's been a long since the last time I used Zekr (currently I don't
have firefox to use swt library). Do you mean the bar on the left
that contained search and information about current aya? (the pane,
browsers use for things like history?)

> It maybe the same as toolbar in Python, I Think.
>
> So please add a toolbar to the right of the window........

Is there something that cannot be done in current toolbar?

Well, I'm by no means a GUI kind of guy (actually I usually turn off
the bars). Maybe that's why I think keeping the UI cleaner is better.
But I have to admit many (most?) users feel the other way and rope now
is much more usable than without the bars you suggested adding and to
a bigger group of users :-). Thanks about that.

So I prefer patches for GUI features and they will be applied
(provides they can be turned off). Otherwise you have to convince me
that the feature is needed (but I'm usually convinced easily ;-) ).

Regards,
Ali

Ali Gholami Rudi

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Apr 15, 2008, 7:47:46 AM4/15/08
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On Apr 15 2008 06:34 +0430, zabeeh khan wrote:
> have you used Zekr?? the thing at the right is called task pane which contains
> next aya...etc. in Zekr.

It's been a long since the last time I used Zekr (currently I don't


have firefox to use swt library). Do you mean the bar on the left
that contained search and information about current aya? (the pane,
browsers use for things like history?)

> It maybe the same as toolbar in Python, I Think.


>
> So please add a toolbar to the right of the window........

Is there something that cannot be done in current toolbar?

zabeeh khan

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Apr 16, 2008, 9:35:12 AM4/16/08
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Brother It is the best option a Qur'an viewer should have. It is much useful.

For example, I am reading an article and it says that " Al-Rahîm: The Compassionate is mentioned in

these ayas (1:1; 7:156 & 33:43)". Now, I want to check each aya to see in which order it contains

it. So If I want to check the 7:156 aya, I will have to first go to 7th sura and then 156th aya. It

takes much time. But on the other hand, if we have a task pane having two fields one for aya and one

for sura and a go or show button, It will be so easy to go to a specific sura and aya. And we can

also have search options, surah info options, etc. in the future. I hope you understand, but it

still belongs to you whether you want to add it or not. A software is to provide ease to the user,

otherwise, I can also read the holy Qur'an in an html or doc file. But, I will not have the options

which a software provides.

Ali Gholami Rudi

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Apr 16, 2008, 11:06:31 AM4/16/08
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On Apr 16 2008 18:05 +0430, zabeeh khan wrote:
> Brother It is the best option a Qur'an viewer should have. It is much useful.
>
> For example, I am reading an article and it says that " Al-Rahîm: The
> Compassionate is mentioned in
>
> these ayas (1:1; 7:156 & 33:43)". Now, I want to check each aya to see in which
> order it contains
>
> it. So If I want to check the 7:156 aya, I will have to first go to 7th sura
> and then 156th aya. It

What's bad about goto sura and aya commands?

> takes much time. But on the other hand, if we have a task pane having two
> fields one for aya and one
>
> for sura and a go or show button, It will be so easy to go to a specific sura
> and aya. And we can
>
> also have search options, surah info options, etc. in the future. I hope you

Search: Without indexing, searching all suras might take much CPU (I
think zekr uses lucene). But searching only the current sura can be
done. But a task pane might not be a good location for it.

Sura info: Some already shown in the status bar.

> understand, but it
>
> still belongs to you whether you want to add it or not. A software is to
> provide ease to the user,
>
> otherwise, I can also read the holy Qur'an in an html or doc file. But, I will
> not have the options
>
> which a software provides.

I've added a task pane, anyway ;-)

Maybe instead of a task pane a temporary command area can be added to
the end of the window (above or under the status bar). Commands like
goto sura, aya, search and others can use this location instead of
using a separate dialog (or having an option that decides which to
do?).

Regards,
Ali

Ali Gholami Rudi

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Apr 16, 2008, 11:30:48 AM4/16/08
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On Apr 16 2008 19:36 +0430, Ali Gholami Rudi wrote:
> I've added a task pane, anyway ;-)

Currently shell.sf.net seems to be down; I'll push the changes to as
soon as it is fixed.

Regards,
Ali

Ali Gholami Rudi

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Apr 16, 2008, 1:14:43 PM4/16/08
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Done.

Regards,
Ali

zabeeh khan

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Apr 16, 2008, 10:09:06 PM4/16/08
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Thank...I will check it.
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